Favorite qualities of people you disliked?
I was inspired by @APAE"'s latest prompt to the Certified User base and thought I'd add my own. @TippyTop11", @Whiskey5", @Eddie Braverman", @BreakingOutOfPWM", @I'm done", @DickFuld", @Dances With Newfoundland", @idaho", and many others, this one's for you:
It's only been recently in my career that I've found myself able to see people in a professional setting outside of a binary scale. It used to be that over time, I would decide that people were either "good" and impressive and worth emulating and learning from, or "bad" and to be categorically avoided.
I think this is a terrible idea. All people, it turns out, are collections of traits and skills, some of which I personally will find positive and others I won't. Whether or not they are, on the balance, net one way or the other doesn't prevent them from having strong skills worth learning from. I effectively locked myself out of studying and evaluating positive, productive traits in people I didn't like, and for anyone trying to continually learn and better themselves, this is an unnecessary self-handicap.
I'll give an example: I had a partner once that I really did not see eye-to-eye with. He was not a "details" guy, and got uncomfortable with analysis because at its core he couldn't keep up. He didn't mind changing facts, and he didn't mind cutting a corner or skirting a boundary if he thought it might help. He put us in some tight spots with his approaches. I quickly added him to my "bad" bucket and tried to minimize my contact with him.
But looking back, I wish I could have gone with him to take clients to dinner more times. The guy was an absolute master storyteller, and could hold a room with sheer force of personality better than anyone I've ever met. Even if I didn't like how he went about all of his work, I could have learned a ton by paying better attention when he was doing the thing he did best.
So now, your turn: what was something you liked or admired about a person that, overall, you didn't care for?
One of the worst people I’ve encountered in the industry was unbearably loud, unnecessarily bold, obnoxiously opinionated, and had zero hesitation speaking his mind in front of everyone
I see the shoe is now on the other foot...
Also thanks for tagging me Staley, real classy
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For me it's a list of things below:
It's funny you mention two categories of people: good and bad. I do the same, I associate with the high performers (good) and avoid the low performers (bad) when possible.
...i don't think you read the question
Ohhh, you threw me for a loop. My bad.
For me I wish I had the gift of gab - I despise having to work with these people, but for networking it would help me a lot.
I think realizing the idea that everyone has good and bad qualities is more important than the actual examples, as they typically aren't that interesting. That said here are some examples:
Con: Can be duplicitous when taking responsibility for mistakes or credit for accomplishments Pro: Very knowledgeable of the industry and detail-oreinted
Con: Is really boring to shoot the shit with; talks about his kids and wife to people fresh out of college too much Pro: Hard working and humble
Con: So slow at modeling you wonder what they're doing all day Pro: Very willing to learn and a good team player
That said this doesn't really answer your question because I don't strongly dislike any of these people. The key idea is not thinking "fuck that guy", but thinking "fuck that guy, but damn he's good at XYZ".
I think silicon valley had a pretty good variation of your last statement, "RIGGB" - Richard Is a Great Guy But...
Couldn't agree more.
In real estate development, for instance, almost everyone is there for a reason. They might be absolutely awful at one aspect of the job, but you don't get a position in a lean company unless you bring something to the table, even if that "something" is as nebulous as your "connections" i.e. your dad is in the industry and didn't want to hire you directly so he got one of his CEO buddies to hire you instead.
It's very easy to look at someone, roll your eyes, and say "yeah he might be good at running a job but he's a shit manager" or "yeah he can sell snow to a snowman but he doesn't understand operations at all" or "yeah he can model a deal in his sleep but he doesn't know shit about the actual finishes in a unit," especially in a competitive environment, It's more important, however, to look at what they actually excel at and try to learn from them, not on an overall level, but on their specific strengths.
It's also incredibly important to analyze yourself that way in an effort to improve on your own weaknesses. I'm honestly pretty bad at focusing on peoples' strengths and struggle with being a highly critical person. On one hand, being a highly critical person is a great skill to have when analyzing deals, or doing a punch walk, or reviewing marketing strategies, etc. It has helped me tremendously in life. However, if you ask some of my coworkers, while I doubt anyone hates me, I guarantee they describe me as a negative person, because I always see the negative and don't keep that shit to myself. I have to consciously avoid being a toxic person to be around and avoid coming off that way as much as possible and I admittedly haven't mastered it yet.
I'm also really good at being an "ideas guy" with zero regard to execution. Perhaps in a president or CEO, this isn't a terrible trait, but in a guy at the bottom to middle of the totem pole, it's pretty obnoxious. My job is literally to execute on ideas, not just brainstorm constantly. I've made it a point when I have some grand scheme to keep my mouth shut about it until I figure out how to make it work and have found much more success as a result.
Don't ever think of yourself as above reproach. When you're casually bitching about your coworkers that aren't in your happy hour crew, there's a solid chance they're casually bitching about you in theirs.
Written words don’t always come across as you’d hope, so my comment is meant to provide additional context to your comment....I don’t disagree with what you wrote.
Some people are dicks / mean to others, which I hate, but I admire the fact that they are straight to the point and there is no confusion as to how they feel.
While at one of my jobs post-undergrad, there was an employee I learned a lot from for two reasons: his heart was in the right place to become a high-performing employee, but his approach was terrible.
He reminded me of Jake Gyllenhall in the movie Nightcrawler - a socially awkward guy who read a shit load of self help books or "7-habits of highly effective people" type stuff before he took the job. His intentions, which I learned a lot from, were as follows:
However, with each of these lessons, he also provided an additional lesson:
Keep in mind all of this was going on within his first year with the firm.....
Good lessons: from idea, to execution.
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