Former Barclays VP Investment Banker Murdered in Times Square Subway station this week

story below:

https://nypost.com/2022/01/16/what-we-know-about-…

Michelle was a former VP at barclays and currently working at Deloitte in their M&A practice.

NYC is truly a shithole.  In the past few weeks we've seen:

  1. Numerous subway murders of people getting pushed onto tracks (including the story here I linked)

2.  a 19 year old girl working the night shift at burger king shot in the stomach by a robber

https://nypost.com/2022/01/14/east-harlem-residen…

  1. columbia grad students stabbed and killed (not to mention the tessa majors murder last year at clumbia as well...also a stabbing)

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2021/12/03/new-yo…

also some highlights

  1. a broad daylight shoot out in times square where a 4 year old was hit by a stray bullet

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/times-squar…

I'm done with this city and the scum that live here.   I can't even keep track of all the insane broad daylight murders/shootings/stabbings/people being pushed onto subway tracks.

I'm moving to the suburbs and getting away from these animals(Srs)

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Comments (89)

Jan 18, 2022 - 9:09pm
baddealflow12, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Imagine going through the hell of IB, grinding away your 20's 30's to secure a better future for yourself and your family, only to have it end because some animal decides to randomly push you onto the tracks in broad daylight in one of the most busy stations in NYC.

She was a volunteer at an organization that helped homeless people get off the streets too.

I am at the point now where I don't feel comfortable riding the subway in this city.  When that's the situation, the cost of living and TAXES are not worth it at all.

  • Research Analyst in HF - Other
Jan 19, 2022 - 1:06pm

deBlasio's mentally-retarded ass has ruined the city. Do you think Eric Adams will be able to fix it? At least he admits there's a problem.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-mayor-eric-adams-says-even-he-doesnt-feel-safe-on-subway-system/3502071/

"NYC Mayor Eric Adams Says Even He Doesn't Feel Safe on Subway System"

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
Jan 18, 2022 - 9:25pm

Fuck the homeless. We voted in Adams because we thought he'd go hard on crime, but there's no indication. Get them out of here.

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  • VP in IB - CB
Jan 18, 2022 - 9:49pm

Give me a break. The guy has only been the mayor for like two weeks.

Also, minorities voted in Adams because they actually wanted someone that would be tough on crime, which is what a lot of people don't understand. Yes, most black and brown people in neighborhoods like Harlem and the Bronx actually want safer neighborhoods because everyone in those areas knows who the criminals are. The 50 year old black woman living alone in a crime ridden area actually wants more  police. Go ask those folks if they want to defund or abolish the police. Looking at the primary election map, everyone in the usual Brooklyn/Manhattan neighborhoods that WASPy folks live in wanted Kathryn Garcia or Maya Wiley. We will see what he does but give the guy a chance.

The woke bullshit that comes from the left mostly comes from 1) white liberals that don't live in neighborhoods affected by violent crime and 2) a select group of "woke" black liberals in Brooklyn/Manhattan that are out of touch with what the average black or brown person in NYC actually wants. If that was the case they would not have voted for a former cop, black or not.

Jan 18, 2022 - 11:15pm
Arroz con Pollo, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I don't agree with all your logic - thousands of people were rioting - not all of those thousands are upper class white liberals. There is a distinct problem involving crime in the black community and somehow it has become racist to point that out

  • Associate 1 in IB - Cov
Jan 18, 2022 - 11:20pm

This is fair but I'd really like to see him make a point by doing some things quickly. One thing that comes to mind is plain clothes police units, that should be an ASAP kind of thing. 

Jan 19, 2022 - 11:14am
Booneboone, what's your opinion? Comment below:

The real problem is Alvin Bragg, the new District Attorney who does not want to prosecute gun possession, theft under a certain amount, certain assaults, resisting arrest, etc.

Jan 18, 2022 - 11:37pm
chairman xi, what's your opinion? Comment below:

 Bring back stop and frisk.

More cops with more power to make arrests and use force.

Get rid of the bail reform laws

Broken window style enforcement. If you hop a turnstile you get arrested etc.  Subway is a privilege not a latent right.

Homeless have to leave.  Bus them to another beta liberal progressive mayors city so they can be someone else's problem (mayor wu of Boston im looking at you)

All the weirdos in times Square need to go.  Clear them out(elmo, cowboy brah..all.of them).

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Jan 18, 2022 - 11:39pm
Arroz con Pollo, what's your opinion? Comment below:

It's amazing people will riot and burn down cities over a convicted felon who is high on drugs dying yet you won't hear anyone talking about a productive member of society being murdered by a homeless black dude.

Jan 19, 2022 - 10:18am
Masterz57, what's your opinion? Comment below:
chairman xi

 Bring back stop and frisk.

1.  Stop and frisk has been well-researched and had essentially 0 effect on crime reduction.  2.  It is so completely, wildly unconstitutional and should be easy to see that - imagine the NYPD had an officer on every corner from 60th-90th on Park Ave and stopped and frisked 50% of young white men between 18-30 in that stretch.  How do you think people would feel about stop and frisk then?  Being born in a bad neighborhood and being young and black/Hispanic does not void your 4th amendment rights.  

Get rid of the bail reform laws

Tricky subject, depends what type of bail reform you are talking about.  Conditioning imprisonment on wealth/access to bail funds is something we should be very, very skeptical of - it's a stone's throw away from debtor's prison.  

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Jan 19, 2022 - 10:29am
Arroz con Pollo, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Bail reform as it's currently being implemented is a joke. From coast to coast, criminals who should be in jail are out free on our streets MURDERING innocent civilians. From Los Angeles to New York, those in positions of power who are supposed to protect us aren't just ignoring crime, but actively pushing radical agendas that do nothing but exasperate the problem.

We have college students STABBED TO DEATH and working professionals PUSHED IN FRONT OF SUBWAYS. These crimes didn't happen in the ghetto, but rather nicer areas you could easily be in with your family.

I don't know how I would react if one of my family members were murdered in such a manner.

There are a bunch of homeless people who are nothing but a detriment to society committing crimes from theft to murder. From LA to NYC to Miami (homeless man murdered a teenager who was riding his bike), criminals are operating with no fear.

  • Intern in IB - Gen
Jan 19, 2022 - 1:30am

dEfUnD tHe pOliCe! Honestly why I want to avoid ever taking the subway in NYC. So many shitty stories about people getting pushed onto the tracks by low life, piece of shit scumbags. Really sad story and wishing the best for her family

Jan 19, 2022 - 8:26am
Legion42, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I think a major issue is that life is better for the homeless in prison which incentivizes them to behave like a criminal. They do a cost benefit analysis - they get free food, shelter, healthcare, etc in prison vs. being homeless in the cold. Idk what the solution is and I pray for her family for the horrible tragedy.  

Jan 19, 2022 - 1:07pm
CarsnWatches, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I actually believe this is some of their thinking especially during colder months. One of my friends in DC said a dude on the subway was saying he missed jail and that every day was Thanksgiving in jail (this was around the Thanksgiving holiday). I found it comical, but would also be scary riding with the guy who wants to go back to jail. 

Jan 19, 2022 - 10:30am
Masterz57, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Love the reasoning from anecdote.  Is the breaking point 4 NY Post stories about individual murders in a city of 8.5 million, or 5?  Perfectly fine to get upset about increased violent crime, because that's very much a thing in the past 2-3 years.  However, if you take a step back and look at the larger picture, the story is the same pretty much everywhere in the US.  Red states, blue states, red cities (not that there are many), blue cities - all have seen significant increases in violent crime (especially the murder rate) over the past 3 years.   The leaders of the pack (in % increase) from a state perspective are Montana, Kentucky, Delaware and South Dakota.  Did DeBlasio ruin them too?  (source: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/27/what-we-know-about-the-increase-in-u-s-murders-in-2020/).  

Bottom line is the entire country has been experiencing a wave of violent crime over the past 2-3 years and no one is 100% sure why it's happening.  

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  • Associate 1 in IB - Cov
Jan 19, 2022 - 10:33am

The bottom part is such a cop out, no pun intended. Cities have been and are actively weakening their police forces between defunding and the rhetoric alone. You think the NYPD is walking around doing active police work right now or are they just showing up after the fact? They have heard the message from society and politicians loud and clear, they're not working actively anymore. 

Jan 19, 2022 - 10:43am
Masterz57, what's your opinion? Comment below:

It's really not if you try and look at research on the topic vs. just using confirmation bias.  Did the rhetoric around policing (defunding, etc) have an impact?  Almost certainly.  Was it the only thing that contributed?  Definitely not.  If I were coming at it from the other partisan point of view, I'd put it all at the feet of gun purchases, which hit record highs in 2020 and 2021, and one of the most robust findings in all of criminology is that more guns=more murders.   However, it's almost certainly a mix of both, and I am willing to say at this time I have no idea how to assign percentages to either or to another X factor that we haven't seen or thought of.  Here are some of the ideas criminologists have been bandying around (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/18/briefing/crime-surge-homicides-us.html).  

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  • Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
Jan 19, 2022 - 10:38am

Y'all love to complain and whine only when it hits the press and you fall for fear mongering, but don't care day to day or care to think or execute on ways that can improve communities and the city whether it's volunteering and activism or engaging in public policy and running for office. 

Armchair theorists are never in short supply... 

Jan 19, 2022 - 10:43am
chairman xi, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Michelle was literally a homeless advocate and was murdered.

There's no dealing with these animals anymore.  You are very naive.

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Jan 19, 2022 - 11:55am

Thank you for proving my point. Never was it saying one volunteer will fix a systematic issue, but rather how quickly everyone shifts to finger pointing online... You are very naive. 

Jan 19, 2022 - 1:04pm
IncomingIBDreject, what's your opinion? Comment below:

 but don't care day to day or care to think or execute on ways that can improve communities and the city whether it's volunteering and activism or engaging in public policy and running for office. 

Armchair theorists are never in short supply... 

People are frustrated here because they pay a large share of NYC taxes to the city government who is expected to come up with these 'solutions' that you mention. Expecting people to both pay taxes and improve the community makes little sense at all, because the same people who can afford taxes can easily afford to move out of the city and go live in Jersey or CT instead. 

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Jan 19, 2022 - 1:08pm
gsssa 2050, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Sure buddy. If I were to run as NYC mayor as Giuliani 2.0 would you vote for me. If not, then you cant talk because Giuliani is the only real anti-crime mayor in modern NYC history (BBerg did bugger all). If you would then I'm sorry to tell you you but there arent enough people to NYC to vote for a right mayor so its futile. You cant win. Or you're wrong. Either way same result.

Jan 19, 2022 - 12:21pm
Angus Macgyver, what's your opinion? Comment below:

2021 figures:

NYC: ~500 murders / 8.5 million people = 6 murders per 100k

LA: ~400 murders / 4 million people = 10 murders per 100k

Colorado Springs: ~40 murders / 500k people = 8 murders per 100k

Oklahoma City: ~500 murders / 650k people = 77 murders per 100k

Jacksonville: ~100 murders / 900k people = 11 murders per 100k

Yeah, NYC is definitely the unsafe city

Jan 19, 2022 - 12:56pm
IncomingIBDreject, what's your opinion? Comment below:

  Most of the increase in crime isn't violent crime such as murders. That gets the most headlines as it elicits the most fear, but isn't what impacts quality of life the most. It's "petty" crimes such as knife/gun intimidation, car break-ins, petty theft, drug violence, increased physical (non-fatal) conflict etc. that has gotten worse and unfortunately due to the fact crime has been consistently redefined in the past few years, these "petty crimes" are often unprosecuted or not even investigated due to call overflow. 

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Jan 19, 2022 - 1:07pm
TryTheDip, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Those are real problems and absolutely merit discussion. It's also worth keeping the big picture in mind in light of the fear mongering - crime spiked across the US in 2020, including NYC but also including cities like Dallas, Atlanta, etc. NYC remains one of the safest big cities in America - you're several times more likely to experience violent crime in most other big cities around the country.

We shouldn't lose sight of quality of life indicators and enhancing the daily experience for everyone, but it's not productive to say things like "turning into Gotham" and "murders in broad daylight" just because there are more people here and things get national attention... 10x as many people per capita are dying in Miami, and yet we don't sit here talking about how people should wear bullet proof vests to the beach. Millions of people ride the subway every day (even now, albeit fewer than 2 years ago)... this crime is horrific, but it's still an outlier

Editing to add what I posted elsewhere:

Looking at murder rates (because data integrity is tougher for other crimes but murders are pretty standardized), NYC is the 20th safest out of the top 100 cities in America. There are only really 3 ahead of it that are major cities - San Diego, San Jose, and Austin.

Looking at total violent crimes, it's 42/100, so safer than 58 (but still few major cities ahead of it). Looking at property crimes, it's the 5th safest. It's important to note that people don't feel safe, but it's also important to look at data - facts vs feelings and all that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

Jan 19, 2022 - 1:07pm
TryTheDip, what's your opinion? Comment below:

It keeps going:

Dallas - 220 murders / 1.3M population = 16 murders per 100k

Houston - 473 murders / 2.3M population = 21 murders per 100k

Charlotte - 96 murders / 875k people = 11 murders per 100k

Miami - 249 murders / 450k people = 56 murders per 100k

Atlanta - 158 murders / 505k people = 31 murders per 100k

Nashville - 101 murders / 700k people = 14 murders per 100k

All those growing Sun Belt cities have murder rates several times to an order of magnitude higher than NYC...

Jan 19, 2022 - 1:08pm
Masterz57, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Don't use data, it conflicts with feelings.  I do think it's ironic how there's so much conservative hate for the prioritization of "lived experiences" (I personally hate it as a moderate because it's anecdote>data) but when it comes to crime no one wants to hear crime stats they just want to talk about the alert they saw on Citizen last week.  

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  • Associate 1 in IB - Cov
Jan 19, 2022 - 12:44pm

NyC iS cOmPletEly SafE yoU FeaR MOngEreR! 

Jan 19, 2022 - 12:58pm
Premia, what's your opinion? Comment below:

what the fuck kinda dystopia is this that a well educated, and hopefully sane, individual has to wear a bullet proof vest to feel safe in NYC

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Jan 19, 2022 - 1:07pm
BobTheBaker, what's your opinion? Comment below:

RIP to this woman and condolences to her family. Sad that people are using this woman's death to serve some sort of political end game. This was a random, terrible, occurrence instigated by a mentally ill homeless individual. Not sure how stop and frisk or more police would've prevented it. But this is the world we live in, everyone is now a politician in the sense that people see an event and somehow try and "capitalize" on it for political "gain" - all from their couches and offices. Anyway, RIP to this woman. Unfortunately, life can be randomly cruel sometimes.

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Jan 19, 2022 - 1:07pm
Synergy_or_Syzygy, what's your opinion? Comment below:

RIP Michelle, an extremely sad story.

Be excellent to each other, and party on, dudes.
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Jan 19, 2022 - 1:08pm
SafariJoe, what's your opinion? Comment below:

baddealflow12

story below:

https://nypost.com/2022/01/16/what-we-know-about-…

Michelle was a former VP at barclays and currently working at Deloitte in their M&A practice.

NYC is truly a shithole.  In the past few weeks we've seen:

  1. Numerous subway murders of people getting pushed onto tracks (including the story here I linked)

2.  a 19 year old girl working the night shift at burger king shot in the stomach by a robber

https://nypost.com/2022/01/14/east-harlem-residen…

  1. columbia grad students stabbed and killed (not to mention the tessa majors murder last year at clumbia as well...also a stabbing)

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2021/12/03/new-yo…

also some highlights

  1. a broad daylight shoot out in times square where a 4 year old was hit by a stray bullet

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/times-squar…

I'm done with this city and the scum that live here.   I can't even keep track of all the insane broad daylight murders/shootings/stabbings/people being pushed onto subway tracks.

I'm moving to the suburbs and getting away from these animals(Srs)

I have been saying this about the city yet people respond telling me it's the best city in the world.

SafariJoe, wins again!
Jan 19, 2022 - 1:08pm
sentry2313, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Dolor et neque consequuntur. Consequuntur quisquam aut itaque laboriosam expedita dignissimos.

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