Gas prices will surpass $6 nationwide by August, JPMorgan says.

On Wednesday, the national average hit another record, reaching $4.56 per gallon, according to AAA. That's already up nearly 50 cents from a month ago, and $1.52 from this time last year, according to AAA's recent data.  

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/gas-prices-ri…

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Arroz con Pollo

This is 100% a result of liberal policies

If you are going to say that liberal policies are to blame, you should support it.  Inflation in general,  is not a liberal issue nor is it a conservative issue.  It is a monetary issue and the Fed is the entity that is suppose to keep it under control, which they have not done.  I also do not think you can blame a political party for rising gas prices.  We have checks and balances in the US with the house and the Senate.  As a result, one party should not take the blame for something like this.  

 

It's also a bipartisan fiscal issue. Republicans don't want to raise taxes and Democrats don't want to cut spending. (And really, the average Republican politician doesn't want to cut spending substantially and the average Democrat doesn't want to raise taxes substantially, since each would cause political blowback.) The bipartisan "solution" is to print money. In the long term, this constrains the Fed's options, since the national debt service gets much more expensive if interest rates go up. Which increases the deficit....which can't be solved by cutting spending or raising taxes for the reasons above...which generates more money printing.

 

lol wrong. Liberal policies, such as:

- prolonged shutdowns

- mortgage forbearance 

- student loan forbearance

- continued unemployment

- continued stimulus checks

- restrictions on business practices per CDC/Vaccine/COVID mandates

- clean energy

is as much a reason for high prices, supply chain issues, inflation, gas , labor crunch, etc. as monetary policy interest rates.

Inflation sucks, but this is reaping what you sow for the past 2 years.

 

I have a little piece of shit, “healthy” microwave dinner that I eat as a late-night snack instead ordering Uber eats. It just went from 3.50 to $5.50. My black beans cans went from $1.20 to $2.00.

Obviously these items aren’t expensive, but the % increases are massive. Low income families just trying to get by must be feeling the heat in a big way.

 

Bruh, prices have increased globally -> both Trump and Biden passed fiscal stimuluses and I would argue that central banking policy has played a bigger role in causing inflation.

Get out of here with this nonsense. I'm not in the US right now and the inflation rates here have nothing to do with Democrats in the US. 

 
nonu-r

Bruh, prices have increased globally -> both Trump and Biden passed fiscal stimuluses and I would argue that central banking policy has played a bigger role in causing inflation.

Get out of here with this nonsense. I'm not in the US right now and the inflation rates here have nothing to do with Democrats in the US. 

The point is, when Trump did it, the stimulus was much more warranted (initial lockdowns/shock to the economy/extreme uncertainty). Biden continuing/increasing stimulus really is what fueled a good amount of inflation.  Dems were also much more pro-lockdowns (i.e., destroying local/state economies) vs. Republican controlled areas (Florida, Texas, etc.)

 
Controversial

On a site full of people who work in Finance we are blaming inflation and oil prices on political parties. The political tribalism that's overtaken this country is a cancer that I hope we can excise as soon as possible otherwise we may be fucked. 

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billy_boy79

Just move back to Kenya then if you hate it so much here

I do not see you complaining when your buddies are trashing the US, which is far worse than what is going on here. The purpose of his comment was to say that and inflation and oil prices are not a democrat or republican issue, which is true.  If you think the root of inflation is democrat or republican policies, you can defend your argument by using the same logic that others have used in this topic.  To say that he should go back to Kenya, is just straight up racist.     

 
BobTheBaker

On a site full of people who work in Finance we are blaming inflation and oil prices on political parties. The political tribalism that's overtaken this country is a cancer that I hope we can excise as soon as possible otherwise we may be fucked. 

Unfortunately, politics overrides intellect.  For example, it makes no sense that shutdowns would substantially increase inflation.  If a shut down can cause future inflation, it would have the opposite impact while the shut down actually happened, which it did not.  

 

I like some of these earlier postings that mentioned how we (as a WSO community, likely to have high incomes) are seeing little changes that are huge and must really be affecting lower-income people. I agree and I just don't know how people are doing it. 

I had a bit of a "spooky" experience around this earlier this month. I am WFH and I basically just use my car to haul around my dog a couple miles to the dog park each day and not much else. So I only fill up at the gas station every month or so. I have a 16-gallon tank and it cost me $100 to fill it up. When I first bought my car it was $40 to fill it, it was $50 as recently as last year (approx.). I started to bitch & moan about it but then I thought about how I wouldn't be able to handle this on a lower income, commuting daily. It was super early in the morning at the gas station, so I drove around and looked at all the gas pumps. All of them - and I mean all of them - had exact dollar amounts and none more than $20, some as low as $3-4. Every single one of them was in exact amounts, as in they're going inside to pay and just putting in a few bucks. I was the only pump that had done a complete fill-up and I only have a 16-gallon tank, which is small compared to some SUVs and most trucks. 

Obviously, this is anecdotal evidence but it definitely gave me pause on the broader state of how things are starting to get tough. 

 

I was listening to Dan Carlin on Joe Rogan today and he said something profound. It was in the same ballpark of how those who are well off can try and isolate themselves from poor people, but eventually if it gets too bad, the poors will make themselves heard one way or another

 

Yeah, I agree, that's the part that makes it "spooky" for me. I hate to put it in these terms and sound even remotely elitist, but it holds that "there's more of them than there are of us" and absolutely they will make themselves heard. 

 

I read that story . . . truly insane. The guy's comments were not even that provocative, I would go further. 

"Some things are believed because they are demonstrably true. But many other things are believed simply because they have been asserted repeatedly—and repetition has been accepted as a substitute for evidence." - Thomas Sowell
 

I say this as a pretty conservative person, but the best thing that ever happened to Trump was losing the 2020 election. If he were President now, inflation would be about the same (perhaps marginally lower due to less stimulus near the end of the lockdowns, but in the same ballpark), and he would be cursing JPow for raising rates and impacting the stock market. In his mind he will be the white knight riding in in 2024 to Save America Again.

 

This is really good for conservatives as things started getting really bad just after Biden took office and it's a multi-year structural issue. Even if inflation comes down we are likely to go into recession late 2023 / early 2024. So both for this election cycle and next election cycle, Republicans are quite heavily favored. Longer this goes on, the more pain people feel, the more crime there is, etc -- most of which is due to the Dems. So that's probably the one good thing to come out of this

I don't care for Trump in particular that much, but honestly we need to have Republicans in office to hold back the tide of alt left insanity 

 

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