How to deal with egotistical people

How do you guys deal with people who think they are better than you because they are doctors, engineers, dentists etc. They don’t know what investment banking is, how much they make, or how hard it is. They think that just because it’s business it’s super easy. It’s actually annoying because I chose this because I’m interested in it. I could’ve easily done what they’re doing but they keep making condescending jokes. 

 

Making fun of another profession is ignorant - that goes for any job. If they were really secure with themselves, their position, their values, etc... they wouldn't be making condescending jokes. I think there are merits and negatives to any job that goes for bankers doctors engineers etc...

Anybody worth listening to does not spend their time focusing on dragging other people down. Just ignore them.

 

Anyone who looks at other professions as less then theirs is crazy. Regarding if it’s bc of comp, prestige, importance or whatever that person is in the wrong so I’d just say that, or better yet avoid all together.

But if there persistent just say that a lotta them spent extra 8+ years and hundreds of thousands of dollars just to come out making less than a 22 year old analyst does.

Granted some of them actually save lives but whatever just show them what local PE fund owns there company

 

I can't speak for doctors or dentists but I can say that a lot of engineers would not make it in a finance/business career.  You wouldn't believe how many of them struggled with easy-A humanities requirements where all you had to do was write a few short essays and participate in class discussions every now and them.  Same with the easy business 101 classes they were required to take.  And those same people are the ones who circle jerk the hardest about how dumb people in other careers are.

 
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First, have you turned inward and considered that you might be projecting? I have a hard time believing you're finding multiple people that you describe above acting condescending, and it feels like you might be putting your words in their mouth. Unless you're a student, in which case you have to realize that those others AREN'T those professions yet, and the only thing more cocky than a 4.0 pre-med undergrad is a 3.8 finance undergrad, but that's sort of expected.

Second, realize that the stuff they're doing is awesome as well, and talk to them about it. Be the humble guy. Learn about their fields, see what they think, give them the chance to be important and powerful and their version of "armchair philosopher" about their field. You'll probably learn something pretty cool if you can get out of the way of your on ego. I've found that the VAST majoirty of times that people are talking about their career/profession, it's because I brought the subject up first--it's pretty likely you're doing the same thing, and they're just saying what they know

Third, learn to control a conversation and take it down paths you want it to go down. Ask them a question, and then ask about a detail they mentioned--for example, if you are talking about long hours, ask about how it's been post-COVID as a Doctor or whatever, then you can transition to locations and drives, and then you can transition to sports cars or something--you just need a tangentially related comment in the main body of content to latch onto and run with. Let your inner ADHD out a bit, and with a smile, ask about related things or say something about it with a laugh, and they bite.

Fourth, if they're truly douchey and making you feel beta when you think you're an alpha, just... stop talking to them. You're the main character in your life, bro. They're the NPCs, not you. If you don't like the conversation, leave. There's no reason to salvage a conversation that you think is detrimental or degrading. Again, you have to be sure it's ACTUALLY that way (and without knowing you or your friends, I'd think that by the way you wrote the post), but if it is, then just leave. You're not a dumpster, so don't be a receptacle of trash--a rose by any other name.

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Fourth, if they're truly douchey and making you feel beta when you think you're an alpha, just... stop talking to them. You're the main character in your life, bro. They're the NPCs, not you. If you don't like the conversation, leave. There's no reason to salvage a conversation that you think is detrimental or degrading. Again, you have to be sure it's ACTUALLY that way (and without knowing you or your friends, I'd think that by the way you wrote the post), but if it is, then just leave. You're not a dumpster, so don't be a receptacle of trash--a rose by any other name.

Great points, but a counter. Sometimes you gotta just have to eat it and let them think they're shoveling  their lumps of coal back onto you. Definitely make an effort to find a domestic and polite way out of the conversation (or overall on-going topic) if you can. True to form 90% of the time, they really are the NPCs themselves. 

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