I quit banking with 5 million bucks. Tell me how to maximize my net worth moving forward.

I quit banking with 5 million net bucks and now I’m trying to figure how to maximize my net worth leveraging this base of capital.
 

Created this to hear people’s different thoughts about building wealth and I’ll follow along. Assume I can’t repeat what I did to initially get the capital due to luck / timing (don’t ask bc not the purpose of thread). Assume I don’t care about how long it takes to multiply but would need to manage capital preservation / some liquidity due to lack of w-2 income. Early 30s, married in HCOL city with a $2xx,xxx earning spouse.
 

So far I’ve read up on some franchising opportunities, if I open 8 DD franchises I can expect 800k-1MM annual operating cashflow. Have also thought about putting it all into SPY applying 1:1 leverage in perpetuity. Need to run the numbers on math and sensitivities but would like to build in a cushion for a 35% market draw down without a margin call.
 

Would love to hear your thoughts.

 

Sounds like you are happy to throw your newfound freedom into working on businesses?

You could do the classic index fund route if you didn't want to work so hard.

If you are happy to continue working I might consider putting ~3mm into index funds and using some of the remaining to do a self-funded search fund - do a mini LBO of a small business w/ 5-10mm in EV.

 
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Sounds like you are happy to throw your newfound freedom into working on businesses?

You could do the classic index fund route if you didn't want to work so hard.

If you are happy to continue working I might consider putting ~3mm into index funds and using some of the remaining to do a self-funded search fund - do a mini LBO of a small business w/ 5-10mm in EV.

Small business LBO would be interesting but I don’t have any background sourcing quality businesses so that would be a hurdle and also would need to avoid overpaying which could be a challenge and would take some time to do the right deal in this environment.

 

"don't ask bc not the purpose of thread"

Good luck.

lol I thought this was the purpose of being 'anonymous' - so he/she can answer these questions....

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

put 500k each into ChainLink, PolkaDot and Cardano (next generation of Etherium -smart contracts with multiple chains like a hydra, and 1000x faster transaction speed)

This portfolio should 10x over next couple years to overtake bitcoin...they are a currency with actual utility (smart contracts + data linkage/storage)

just google it...you're welcome
 

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put 500k each into ChainLink, PolkaDot and Cardano (next generation of Etherium -smart contracts with multiple chains like a hydra, and 1000x faster transaction speed)

This portfolio should 10x over next couple years to overtake bitcoin...they are a currency with actual utility (smart contracts + data linkage/storage)

Thanks I don’t have any background with cryptos so I’d just be blindly dumping money 

 

Put atleast $1 mil into VOO/VIT/SPY & never pull out. 

 

You could buy some houses and rent them out to high earning tenants (less likely to wreck your place). Airbnb possible.
 

Or you could rent houses and Airbnb them out and even hire property managers if you didn’t want to deal with all the BS. I’ve seen people with Airbnb empires making $600K per year in profits. It’s scalable.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Elon made $180 million off of PayPal and reinvested most of it into SpaceX, Tesla, and Solar City. The balls on this guy.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Pizz

Not bitcoin, unless you want to lose money. 

$5 million on Bitcoin - he'll be worth $500 million in 10 years riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

not bitcoinm but the etherium 2.0 platforms are going to skyrocket...cadano and plokadot are different strategies for smart contracts 2.0 (faster, more distributed, more capability) and chainlink is putting offblockchain data onto the blockchain....these are currenlty around $40 billion (all in the last 6 months) and should 10x within a couple years.

bitcoin is just a store of value...but nothing else.  these smart contract crypto currencies are a store of value + smart contracts...so they have actual utility...and as more projects gte built with them, their value will skyrocket.

smart contracts = value transfers after some event takes place...but an also be linked to blockchain activity...so you can easily do partial ownership of things like real estate, land or whatever...can't easily do that now.....also, crypto banking will be driven off these smart contracts....this is the future

PolkaDot, Cardano, Chainlink....buy all 3

just google it...you're welcome
 

Where are all these "chill $200k jobs"?

Air Traffic Controller obvs - 'super chill'

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

My dad worked one of these chill 200k jobs. Just work at any F500 in a meaningful corporate role and get promoted (eg not back office). He was never home later than 7 and pulled $500k pre GFC and $300k post until retirement. Post GFC he would come home and take naps during lunch. Obviously that’s not as much money in your 50s but he was promoted to that level in his early 30s

 

If you're going to take a margin loan on your investments, I'd use super low LTV like 25% and roll it into a stable cash-flowing asset like multifamily properties.  If you have a solid wealth management relationship you could probably pull out $1mm at like 2% i/o for 5 years and buy a 5% cap property.  I would be way too nervous about taking a margin loan just to buy more stocks or anything with volatility where the cash flow doesn't easily cover the debt service.

 

Buy residences at luxury hotel properties on leverage and rent them out on Airbnb. Important that they let you do it, but if they do, the hotel can clean up after the guests, the guests can check in at front desk, and they’ll just take a fee. But prices are down because of covid and luxury properties should rebound first and the guests will be cleaner.

 

I actually did something similar to this back in 2009-2010. Found a bunch of rooms at hotels that they were selling (cash strapped hotel chains), purchased them and then let the hotel manage the bookings/cleanings etc. I got them for relatively nothing and the hotel purchased them back from me for more than double after 6-7 years. I think the hotels cut was only 28% of the booking gross. Never paid an assessment and the hotel dues were included in their "cut" of bookings.

 

The specific one I had in mind I know for certain the management fee is 30%. If you can sustain the cash flow requirements to support the P&I, insurance, HOA, etc. of ~$3200 a month, you’d need to rent it out for $400/nt 11 nights a month to be above break even. Rates at the hotel well exceed that almost year round, so it seems like a no brained.

 

and you ask bankers on how to do it?

Ask them what's in their personal portfolio, otherwise it's 100% guaranteed they'll sell you crap

Never discuss with idiots, first they drag you at their level, then they beat you with experience.
 

bingo.

also curious if this is $5mm liquid or already invested, big difference. if still invested, actual capital after-tax is likely lower

but either way, good on you bro, I've got nothing to add.

if I had $5mm after tax, after paying off my primary mortgage, I'd probably continue working, put 60% into the strategy I run for clients (100% public equity), 20% in a few hedge funds/private placements I like, establish residence in south florida (can get a pretty nice single story in Hollywood for $500k), keep 5% in cash, and keep another 5% for investing in startups/VC/crypto

 

Do you have any specific reason to remain in your HCOL city? You're early 30's, already married and now quit IB. I guess I don't know what your wife does, but I don't really see why you can't move to a Tier 2/Tier 3 city where your $5MM will go much further. 

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Please go on r/fatfire or any of the FIRE subreddits if you're planning on going to internet advice route.  

This forum is 90% early career folks, and even among the darker blue users (VPs, Principles, Partners) not that many of them are in a position where they have accumulated significant assets. 

If your going to ask anyone ask APAE E.  He would know best.

Good luck and congrats on the success!

 

Probably REITs/dividend investing. Buying equities at market peaks, especially with leverage, could send that net worth tumbling down. Don't have experience with franchising so won't commend on that. Alternatively buying real estate and having someone manage it for you. 

 

I would only jump into RE if you understand the market itself as opposed to buy and have someone else manage. Scores of threads on topics on it.

The real folks taking in $ from naive owners are potentially the firms who are managing their assets.

 

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