I refuse to take the vaccine
This is absurd. Give it to people in the “high-risk” groups and that’s it. Whoever wants to vaccinate themselves (part of the remaining 90% of the population) should have access to it. Everyone else who doesn’t intend on getting the shot should not be obliged, pressured or mandated to take this thing.
Are people blind? Do they know what the mortality rates for people younger than 80 is? Do they have any idea how diseases and transmission work? If the overwhelming majority of people who die from a virus are protected from it (+80 yo and other groups), the rest of the population can catch it, just like the normal flu!
facts
but they dont matter, you racist trump supporter
only daddy biden and mommy kamela give thoughts
What’s even funnier about this whole situation is that if you criticize the state of affairs you’re either extreme left or extreme right depending on the gov in power.
Eg UK you’re leftwing, USA you’re rightwing, Spain, Italy and France same as US, and so on.
its fucked up but what is the solution if any haha
this covid environment exacerbates its for sure
“COVID-19 is not just hazardous for elderly people, it is extremely dangerous for people in their mid-fifties, sixties and seventies,” says Andrew Levin, an economist at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire, who has estimated that getting COVID-19 is more than 50 times more likely to be fatal for a 60-year-old than is driving a car."
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02483-2
crazy how so much madness was caused by a guy who chose to eat a bat over the 1000s of resturant/fastfood options out there
You mean the Chinese government purposefully spreading a virus. H5N1 didnt turn into batshit crazy government control of our lives due to the lack of social, total mass media.
No one questions how it “got out” of the research facility, how a vaccine such as AstraZeneca which supposedly went through “very rigid, super reliable processes” is taken out of vaccination programmes a couple of months after its approval, how, even though only a tiny minority of the population is affected by the virus, we all must suffer due to this.
The new variants of COVID are proving to be deadly to young people. I think for the time being it's stuck in London, but who knows if it's not in the U.S. already..
I'm a healthy 22 yo and continue to have significant breathing issues a year after getting it (although getting much better recently). For example, I didn't think I had it but was waking up in the middle of the night because I couldn't breathe. That wasn't very fun. I thought it was because my tonsils were too large and got my tonsils out. Nope.
But what's worse was the fatigue. It's kind of scary because it feels like you just had a massive workout and are super wasted. And my fatigue isn't that bad, it's just scary knowing it could be worse and I really don't want to push it
I bet a lot of people's reactions are genetic but you really don't want to risk it
Ayther, I understand your point. I’d say the issue here is this opens up a precedent. Who’s to say some other random disease which affects mainly 99% people over 80 years of age isn’t going to force another universal vaccination programme and some other bullshit lockdown?
For me it’s plain and simple: don’t need the vaccine, don’t take it. Need the vaccine, take it. There is NO REASON why people below 50’years of age should take this shit. “Oh they might infect others” YES, they will, but who fkn cares when those at risk are people who are freaking vaccinated!!
From a practical standpoint, I could potentially understand refusal if the vaccine was on your own dime...but it's free. Why not take it since it's free? It will also likely make life much easier in the coming years when vaccine certifications come into play for international travel and daily life. There doesn't seem to be any disadvantage or cost to taking it.
My thought process is why should I take it when I'm a perfectly healthy 21 year old male? No one knows the long-term effects of the vaccine (because there isn't any research yet) and frankly big pharma may have their own agendas in terms of revenue creation. I'm not saying that's their only goal, but I'm sure the government is just happy to put out whatever vaccine they think works as soon as possible to not have pandamonium.
If they don't let people who haven't received the vaccine travel that would be an interesting predicament. Why would a young, healthy individual not be allowed to travel without a vaccine, especially with the mortality rate being so low? Just my two cents and things I'm thinking about.
I see your point, but pretty much all the vaccines so far have been deemed safe. Any safety signal that may emerge over the years is likely to be mild. Side effects are also generally worse in older people or those already sick. Since you’re a healthy 21 year old, any potential future side effect will be negligible for you. Also, companies may have their own agendas but prices for these vaccines are so low that even selling millions of doses does little to their bottom line. The point of travelling is also about spreading it to the more vulnerable people. And even if those are vaccinated, the more people have it and transmit it, the more it can mutate and risk having a more significant effect on younger patients.
Yeah I'm not in disagreement with you, logic makes sense regarding future side effects and travelling certificate. I'd be quite surprised if they didn't vaccinate almost everyone (90%+) of people who actually want to get vaccinated. With COVID having so much attention, I figure the government will continue handing out vaccines to anyone who wants one. So to me, I feel like whoever doesn't get vaccinated won't be affected because COVID should subside exponentially in the coming months. Maybe if the situation was dire for younger patients I'd be more inclined, but it really doesn't affect our age group.
But you have to consider that there is a small % of the population that cannot get vaccinated e.g., immunocompromised patients, those who develop immunogenicity to it and other factors like that. Because of these people, we need everyone like you to take it to achieve that 90%+ herd immunity that will protect society as a whole.
Thats such bull Pharma guy hahah. You could apply that reasoning to 99% of similar diseases.
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