IB & PE personalities - lame?

I don’t mean for this to come off as rude, but has anyone else observed that a ton of people who work in IB or PE have kind of lame personalities and are “try hard?” Maybe its because I’ve worked in trading for 12 years, and I’m just used to the personalities within this space - but almost everyone I’ve met in IB or PE has this kind of uptight, arrogant attitude and is lacking in any sort of interesting personality. Outfit is a vest, a company bag they choose to carry everywhere, combover. Also will mention where they went to college until they’re 50.

Just a totally different, not chill personality than I’m used to. Maybe its just my subset (NY area), but I’ve just noticed a trend and also noticed I don’t particularly enjoy hanging out with them.

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Agree. I think it’s in the structure of the job.
 

s&t =

can’t be arrogant because market will humble you

can be interesting because you need ADHD tendencies to be on top of market (which makes for fun if you can nerd out on the same thing - it’s boring if you can’t)

need to be mentally agile to find ways to make something work as the game constantly changes - to generate performance you need to create more alpha as the market is competitive

IB/PE:

can’t be creative in the same way, I.e. you’re driving returns from process beta  (like you don’t want your lawyer to be “creative” for the hell of it) 

can be arrogant because aren’t MTM every day (actually NEED to be arrogant because that’s how they drive return - brand appeal)

More of a marathon runner than sprinter - ADHD type tendencies would make you insane grinding the hours on repetitive stuff, instead more like Asperger’s spectrum type thinking. 

 

Your eyes & ears aren't fooling you.  It's real.  I would call it conformist more than anything else.  

I don't think the job makes people that way, because I see it even in the summer analysts.  Something about the job draws in people who don't like to think differently.  Not sure what it is, because I'm not one of those . . I have plenty of other personality flaws, but not that one.

 

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