I want to hear stories of pick up artistry, streaks (of success or droughts), or even just unexpected love stories. Mine is, I usually do a lot of sitting by the bar with some staring, drooling, and wimpering like a sad and needy puppy.
Edit: for those not convinced this topic is somewhat complex, consider this chart:
There’s a 10 point gap between men and women in share not having sex at all. And women tend to abstain by choice for seeking the “perfect man”, whereas men tend to have no choice because they can’t find willing partners.
my strategy: never ask a girl out
the jawdropping results: never go on a date
On the bright side your wallet must be extra thicc
To quote Homer Simpson, "Never try, never fail"
Vicki Christina Barcelona
Long brunettes, short blondes. Long tall girls, short short girls. Long girls from developed economies, short EM.
Long short girls man, I ain’t dating no 6ft bish!
found the manlet
Man check a recent post it said you had to be 6ft2 at least to be in finance.
I pay them about £100/hour.
Be attractive. Don't be unattractive.
That’s probably a good one, how’s that working out for ya?
He probably goes on dates and wears dress shirts with flames on them lmao
Classic doomer
That's why 30s boomers are cleaning up
Act richer than I am, make sure I get an opportunity to mention I'm an investment banker. Works like a charm.
FIG plebs make sure to leave the FIG element out.
I tell girls I trade.
Jokes on them, I'm nearly a mod over at reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets
Ayyyy MD ;)
1) Screen candidates 2) Focus on the ones who are more interested in you than you are them
Chat up as many women as you can (without actually hitting on them) and screen for interest. Is she engaged? Smiling/laughing? Leaning into the convo? Ignoring opportunities to walk off? If yes, close her.
You'll minimize time wasted and build up a solid book of business/rotation. You will also be outcome independent, so won't have to worry about pressure setting in or any disappointment over rejection. The idea is to zero in on the ones who are either DTF or just happen to like you, and drift off from the ones who'll give you a hard time.
I think the most consistent mistake guys make (certainly I've made it) is chasing the girls who are only "sort of" interested. She gives him the slightest opening-either out of boredom or for the free drink, and the guy goes off in hot pursuit and gets strung along/ghosted. Those women will require too much work and are just a pain to deal with. Like you don't have enough headaches throughout your day.
Username checks out.
Extra marks for abundance mentality.
Thanks Owen/Tyler
Question: what if I don't get sexually aroused when I go on **** with someone I do not like that much but she likes me a lot.
Is she not good looking?
Take her number anyway. I've got some awesome women friends I'd never touch who've been great to have around, sometimes going as far as being wingmen/facilitators. Women have no problem using dudes they've friendzoned and it can go both ways.
Unless she's just atrocious, which I doubt would have led you to approach her in the first place. I make sure there's something interesting about her before I initiate. If she's a 6 but has a terrific body, I'll make due. Can't marry them all.
But in general you want to try this with women you think are cute or would at least consider hanging out with for a bit. In most cases the problem is we've little in common or perhaps she angles too hard for a relationship-but as long as she's cool, supportive, dependable, and trustworthy she'd merit my time.
Friend zone her. Girls love to friend zone guys but they get PISSED if a guy friend zones her back because that shit almost never happens and it drives them crazy. Turn her into a simp for you lol
find a girl that actually likes working, camping, mountain biking, rock climbing, back packing, saving money, then marry her. Works 10/10
You dumped a smokeshow who always let you get your way? Man that might have been the holy grail you let go of there.
False. Really gets annoying after 12-24 months. It's nice to have someone challenge your viewpoints forcing you to grow and see things from a different perspective on a daily basis. I thought the alternative sounded better. Ended up cheating on her more times than I can count (not proud of it just reiterating the fact it wasn't best for me). With someone now who holds her own and is more down to Earth, and I'm immeasurably more happy. Not saying current isn't attractive by any means, far from it, but last was on TFMgirls more than a couple times and kinda blew everything out of the water.
>I dated this absolutely smokeshow for a year in college, but I always got my way.... and it got so boring/tedious.
Do you think she liked this? I'm not sure this relationship would've lasted very long...do you think you were being too selfish? I'm trying to see this from her perspective because if she was a smokeshow she was getting hit on all the time, how much longer do you think she was going to put up with you?
No loud bars or clubs, I’m too average looking for that. I’m funnier/smarter than I am good looking so I stick to bars where I can hold conversations/make jokes etc...
for reals....whole foods
Reading a book isn't going to change your behavior big guy
Not sure people going to whole food read books these days - pretty sure they are on instagram looking at vegan dishes
i suggest you give it a try....unless you never learned how to read...its a free book
When we have awkward pause I like to speak about technological singularity, usually that helps her start new conversations afterwards.
Radiocarbon
Pretty much casually date about 6 guys at a time and just do process of elimination as time progresses
this just means you haven't met somebody with amazing chemistry yet...because when you do...you become addicted to them very fast, and you won't want to date the others.
You’re not wrong however sometimes things can be misread. There’s been times I’ll think there’s chemistry but the guy wouldn’t feel the same way and I’ll get burned.
I respect this. I think this is where things are and the reality men and women should come to terms with (especially men).
I do love the, "casually date" part, and that you're doing it 6x, which sounds exhausting, and not optimal at all.
It is exhausting but usually my deal breakers are shown sooner than later so 6 gets cut down to 2 or 3 within a week sadly haha. It’s a sad process
you just also gotta realize those 6 guys are also casually dating other girls...
Long straddle on height, 5"6' strike. Long blondes, will make a market on brunettes. Buyer of Europe-US strip vs EM-Asian strip differential.
Just talk to anyone with pussy without any fear and lower your standards and you will be fucking all the time. Work your way up from there if you care to.
Chat up girls in settings where my best features can show, try and gauge their interest before making any sort of move, good chemistry plays a big part here. Text for a few days/ a week and eliminate girls that don't quite fit the bill, this would include girls that don't exercise regularly, live in undesirable/ far away parts of town without a good reason for it, etc. Girls have a strong survival instinct and so I try to keep her as comfortable as possible the first couple weeks (going to bars and restaurants in her neighborhood), which also makes it easier for her to invite you up to her place. And then to top it all off I try and keep it fun and do new things each time we see each other.
Honestly works pretty well, I think I've only been rejected twice for a second date in 4 or so years, every second one has turned into a multi month thing. I've got friends that try to shot gun approach it and can't figure out why going out on first dates with 20-50 girls a year doesn't ever lead to much.
I think the key takeaway is, show my best features at the start, make sure she's interested/ make sure I'm interested, keep her comfortable and it flows.
Also having a girl in your life is like having a cat, you can't force them to spend time with you and if you keep chasing they will run away, but if you mind your own business, they will want attention and come sit on your lap.
Looks like you own a cat
Not personally, but all the women in my family are crazy cat ladies.
Thought I would give an update on this a year later. Am in a semi serious relationship now, strategy worked and I got a girl I click really well with.
How’s the sex?
Yeah no shit. If you're looking for a serious relationship and you are ok with waiting for sex you already have a leg up over most guys. Most of this board (and young men in general) are either "Chad" who has endless hookups, virgins, or virgins trying to become "Chad"
Updated to include interesting stat on dating dynamics today.
ibankedup about to go down the rabbit hole
i am the 28%, you could say to read up on how to interact with people but if you are at the point where you're getting the advice to read up on how to interact with people then you are probably already too far gone... hard to break years of conditioning. nobody good at interacting with people is good cause they read a bunch of books on how to do it lol
not true...everybody has to start somewhere.
-first you read a book that really speaks to you (you might have to read a few duds before you find that one that resonates) i highly suggest Marni and Sinn (both free at scribbed) -then you watch some videos on youtube that show examples and have the same basic mentality -then you go out into the world and practice, get feedback from other people, and practice some more.
Seriously, try reading those books..they are free...i've read them...and i think they are spot on.
I'm frankly pretty good looking, so I usually just go up to random girls in the club. Most girls will be willing to talk to me, but if they aren't making a lot of eye contact or their body language doesn't say they're into it then I move on to the next one. Also, if they seem like too much of a nice, wholesome girl, then I also move on to the next one because that's too much work. Usually by the third or fourth girl, I found someone who I dance with and end up taking home. Usually the girl is somewhere between a 6 and a 8. Sometimes, I get lucky with a 9, but girls who are 9s usually have so many options that they take a lot more work to impress, and usually the 9s that I bag are from Tinder, after going on dates, and not one night stands.
I've pretty much completely gotten over approach anxiety. The key is to not fear rejection, not take it personally, and realize that it's all a numbers game.
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