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This is a pretty standard day in my life as an MM Sr. Assoc. when not deep in diligence on a deal or travelling out to portcos/MPs/conferences. Rating 1-5 (super boring - super fun)

In general vs. banking, I've found the days are spent a lot more on calls and reading different things. Usually less ppt/excel grinding except when further along in diligence on a deal in which case add a block from 7:30-10:00pm focused on creating analyses from data room materials. 

  • 9:30 - 10:00: get to the office, check emails that came in overnight, scan WSJ headlines (4)
  • 10:00 - 10:30: Bi-weekly call w/ portco leadership team & deal team to discuss ops and performance (3)
  • 10:30 - 12:00: turn comments on internal portco update deck for partner meeting later in the week / create analysis in excel to help portco mgmt understand why the biz isn't cash flowing / review quarterly compliance certificate and ask mgmt why the numbers don't sum to the monthly financials we've been sending the lender (2)
  • 12:00-12:30: walk down to Just Salad & grab lunch (5)
  • 12:30 - 3:30: calls w/ lender to explain why portco missed budget again this month / GLG calls w/ expert in new sector we're trying to develop a thesis on / calls with bankers to ask some questions on the CIM the sent us to show interest ahead of IOIs / so many calls... (1-2)
  • 3:30 - 5:00: skim a couple CIMs received this week, mostly looking for 3 reasons to give to my partner on why we should quick pass on it / 3 reasons to actually go back and read the whole book in depth if interesting (3-4)
  • 5:00 - 5:30: draft IOI letter (rip 90% from precedent letters + add minimum customization) for the deal we had the banker call earlier, send to partner who will sign off on it w/ no comments at 9pm (2)
  • 5:30 - 6:30: turn updated comments on the presentations & analyses from this morning (2)
  • 6:30 - 7:00: respond to emails from third parties & lawyers answering questions on updates we'd like to make in the latest CA amendment docs (2)
  • 7:00 - 7:30: update to-do list for tomorrow / print out materials received that need to be read before meetings the rest of the week (3)
  • 7:30+: go home, eat dinner, read some printouts, play Xbox, pray partner doesn't suddenly remember any urgent questions on the deal we're submitting the IOI for (5)
 

Lol what’s a 5 to you that’s work? I don’t think any job would be a 5 unless I was in the MLB or an actor or something like that. We’re in finance buddy

Jamie Dimon is one of my close personal friends
 

Day-to-day not a whole lot... Every now and then maybe you come up with a novel idea that solves a problem the teams been having or you visit an interesting operation, but it's just an office job at the end of the day. 

The real payoff in my view is the culmination of the grind: closing a deal after weeks of intense diligence, seeing your industry thesis actually play out, realizing all your research has made you a semi-expert in a niche industry, watching mgmt execute on your value creation strategy and it actually working, etc.

 

This but start at 8-8:30am and end at like 10pm if we're on nothing. If we are, then until midnight +. 

 

I probably shouldn’t even comment, but to the OP, if you think there is a typical day or people rate their day on a “fun-boring” scale, I’m pretty sure you don’t understand the industry. I would highly encourage you to talk to friends in the industry for real feedback. I don’t think you are going to get the answers you want on a public message board.

 
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Here's a couple of random highlights and lowlights with my personal rating:

  • [5+] Only for Associates: IC shits all over your deal in stage 1 or 2A IC screen, you KNEW this would happen, and you tried to bring it up. Deal dies, you were right, you sort of have that mini vindication of having done your DD but don't have to sprint afterwards. Setting aside the fact that you did a bunch of shit for nothing, this is easily a 5 for me. Deals dying was my #1 favorite part of banking and PE.
  • 3 Deal gets signed or closed. You get 1 day of euphoria, yay all your hard work paid off. You get celebratory drinks with the team, and feel so accomplished. Damn, you signed a $1B deal as part of a 3-4 person deal team. So sick. this is totally gonna show up on PE News Wire. You read the press release (doesn't mention you at all, but you did draft the Partner's quote for them). You read the partner's internal email, which thanks you for "doing what it takes to get the deal through." He also spelled your name right. Fuck yeah. Then you realize that you still hate your team, you're about to get staffed tomorrow, and now you have another PortCo that's gonna suck the life out of you with blueprinting, setting up reporting, and ad hoc bullshit. a few hours of 5, a year of 3 (or 1 if the portco underperforms)
  • 5 Your first board meeting. Sitting in the room with the big boys and talking big strategy. You get to "see how the sausage is made," "strategic initiatives," "roll up your sleeves." Go to dinner and get shitfaced off wine and steak while talking to management about how excited they are for this next phase of growth. Fuck yeah brother, this is what we work for. You're helping grow a damn business. Hell yeah.
  • 1 Every other board meeting after this. No sausage is being made. Just Partners asking probing questions while Mgt tries to play defense, worse if it's underperforming. You're trying to sneak in work on another deal, but have to half-listen in case you get asked about a number. At dinner, you seek out the most junior person at the portco that got invited, and you sit together and talk shit (this is a 4). Fly home the next day tired as fuck wondering why the fuck you even went there, you have so much shit to catch up on, etc.
  • 4 Slow day, sneaking out at 4pm on a Wednesday to hit a quick workout at Equinox. blast emails on your phone in between sets and think to yourself "is this what being an MD is like?" But alas, you gotta go log back on to turn some comments on the IC deck and you didn't even get a chance to steam :(
  • 5 Wrote a thoughtful and detailed email to the Partner about model changes, why assumptions changed, and what we think about valuation. Get a "Thanks - really great detailed response here. appreciate the work and this makes sense" This has happened maybe 3 times.
  • 1 Subject: "Fw: fw: FW: fw: [EXTERNAL] FW: Project XXX." You guys all know what I'm talking about. 99% of the time it's completely out of mandate but "it could be interesting"
  • 2 Lights turn off in the office and you need to walk to turn them back on. You didn't go home because you're in the zone and you "only need another hour." It's been 4 hours.
  • 1 "Datasite: New Documents Available on Project XX." Fuck you PJT, it's 11pm on Friday.
  • 5 First Friday where you have the balls to wear jeans, sneakers, and a short sleeve button up to the office. Nobody says anything (but they definitely talk behind your back).
  • 2 Finishing up a databook and sending it off to your VP at around 8pm, immediately getting the "thanks, will review shortly." Almost free, but you know this asshole is gonna ask you “why does the October cohort have so much variance? Can you look into it?” Because there’s only 3 customers in that cohort and it’s project-based revenue not monthly recurring, smartass. 

I have so many more, but these are ones that come off the top of my head.

 
  • [5+] Only for Associates: IC shits all over your deal in stage 1 or 2A IC screen, you KNEW this would happen, and you tried to bring it up. Deal dies, you were right, you sort of have that mini vindication of having done your DD but don't have to sprint afterwards. Setting aside the fact that you did a bunch of shit for nothing, this is easily a 5 for me. Deals dying was my #1 favorite part of banking and PE

tl;dr: after associate you leave, bc that's the peak fun of your career

incentives trumph ethics
 

God damn, that 3 for new portco / deal hits home. The feeling of finishing the deal - but then everyone will know you 'have capacity' 😖

A few of mine: 

4 - internal 'catch-ups' on things like portfolio updates or sourcing meetings being cancelled. Feels good 

1 - LinkedIn DM's / cold emails from anything sales orientated (things like VDR stuff, consultants, market reports etc.) - ignore the last 5 - they keep persisting 'I realise you're busy, but did you see...' yes I did, and I'm not interested or else I'd have replied, now f*ck off 

2 - Management asking 'we don't know what the equity is worth' - then need to do another 'quick' example waterfall while trying to ensure the valuations (and thus LTIP / MIS) are good / high enough so keep them energised

5 - January 2025 - it was so quiet, chilling and logging off at like 4pm. Good times - savour these moments 

 

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