Of all 300 firms in the PEI 300, where are the cutoffs for MF / UMM / MM? Will these firms all give you a solid shot at an M7 MBA, particularly HBS / GSB? If not, which firms aren't as reputable?
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following, is this “ranking” even meaningful
It does a good job of identifying the top 20 firms but the order is not particularly meaningful outside of that
It's pe capital raised in L5Y as of some period when the report was compiled.
I think there will probably be a correlation b/w ranking on that list (aka fund size in recent years) and probability of getting into H/S. Controlling for everything else (grades, gmat etc.) maybe it's a a strong(?) one, idk? No one can tell you the answer. People can only answer what firm specifically is good vs. not
I'd say top 25/first page is accurate. Anything past that is not really that important
Lmao probably one of the dumber posts i've seen on this site
How so? Literally same comment as the one above, the rankings for the large size funds are pretty spot on for the first 25 or so, afterwards the ranking gets more difficult to parse through as there are FoFs like hamilton lane included, as well as asset managers. first page entries are pretty much a good summary of the biggest buyout/PE funds in the market
"Anything past that is really not important" - Lol some of the absolute top tier funds fall way past that point e.g. LGP, Insight, AmSec, Cinven, NMC, Genstar, GTCR Ares, Platinum, Francisco, TCV, Berkshire etc. etc. etc.
And folks realize, this "ranking" is again, just PE capital raised in the last 5 years right? Doesn't really matter that Bain is 6 and H&F is 11; show me one person who turns down H&F for Bain because Bain has a bunch of random funds in disparate geographies that are all added up here.
That's why I said the correlation should probably be positive but it's a useless list, and much more helpful is to actually compare offers/funds.
Yeah I don't disagree with you at all. May have worded that poorly, but in response to OP's question about how useful the list is in determining MFs, UMMs, top players, etc. I was referring to how after the first page or so, you'll need to do more research regarding deal participation and fundraising to actually understand. Nothing against actual quality of firms
Looks like this list has been updated in the last two weeks for 2020. Top ten firms based on 5 yr fundraising: 1. Blackstone 2. Carlyle 3. KKR 4. TPG 5. Warburg 6. NB 7. CVC 8. EQT 9. Advent 10. Vista
The PEI 300 list is incredibly thoughtless. Notice how Clearlake, BlackRock (?) and Francisco are ranked above H&F and Silver Lake. That is only because the funds of the former 3 are more recent. By any measure (AUM of last flagship buyout fund size), H&F and Silver Lake are way bigger than most of the firms ranked above them. Apollo, with the 2nd-largest private equity fund in history is ranked at #14. Firms such as NB and EnCap are out of place and do not have the same models.
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