Do you think we'll ever get back to a market that makes sense?
Im talking like the 2013-2019 eras where you buy a deal for 100-200 bps over the debt. Deals where there was positive leverage. Deals where treasuries were lower than Class A multifamily cap rates. Deals where taking on more risk meant higher returns.
Not while a toddler is in charge at the Whitehouse.
And now the toddler wants to fire J Powell...
Something will always give. People, whether property owners, developers, landowners, contractors, etc. aren't going to simply sit on the sidelines forever and not make money. The question isn't if deals will ever start making sense, it is when, and how.
I’ve been saying this for almost 2 years now but I think as more and more people start needing to refinance and are jumping from ~4% debt to 9%+ debt, you’re creating a situation where you’re flooding the market with lender controlled assets. This has been playing out to some degree but I have been surprised by the number of people willing to take on negative leverage to buy those lender controlled assets.
Most deals I've been shown to buy lender controlled assets are paying more for them than you could buy a broadly marketed deal just because the lender is giving 95-100% leverage
Read Howard Marks "Further Thoughts on Sea Change" memo
So, a couple of things. @Pokemon Master mentioned the refinancing need, which is what we've been expecting for, maybe 3-4 years now? Banks up until now have been kicking the can down the road, doing loan mods, lowering their interest rate on the deal, etc. There have been some injections from the equity side, depending on the partner/deal that have extended things too, but it does look like we're getting to the end of that rope (though again, it's been looking like that for a while now...). A few things stand out to me from looking at some of these deals and talking with lenders:
We still have probably 2-3 years of unwinding to do before you really start to see price adjustments and "normalcy" (either through interest rate compression, price adjustments, or operating improvements). Right now, it's pretty much where we've been for a while, a waiting game to see if interest rates drop or performance improves before many of these banks are pressured to foreclose.
"We still have probably 2-3 years of unwinding to do before you really start to see price adjustments and "normalcy" (either through interest rate compression, price adjustments, or operating improvements). Right now, it's pretty much where we've been for a while, a waiting game to see if interest rates drop or performance improves before many of these banks are pressured to foreclose.
Crazy that the exact same thing (like verbatim) was said in 2023, 2024 and now 2025. It will continue to be said in 2026 too I think. It's comical.
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