It sounds like you are smart and hungry--a good start!

A great real estate professor of mine once said that "The smart brokers usually end up as developers". I've read about a number of brokers who went to work for developers they worked with.

That is one way of looking at what "successful" brokers do--not sure if this is what you are looking for, though.

Good luck!

 

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OK, thanks for the input--sounds like you have some good opportunities ahead, both with your current job and with your family. Overall, I think your intellectual curiosity (especially at your early career stage) and drive (plus the fact it sounds like you work for a great boss and are getting great experience) bodes well for your future. Whatever you do, DON'T STOP LEARNING! Most businesspeople I admire (Fred Smith of FedEx) say they spend a lot of their time time reading and absorbing--which makes them better equipped to deal with what's coming around the corner.

A few thoughts on your questions:

1) "What specific skills/experience would you place emphasis on developing?"

Learn to think like an investor (a lot of blog posts on WSO echo this)--It sounds like you are well on your way.

The flip side of this is don't be a "dumb" broker who never thinks beyond getting your cut (you don't sound like this type of person). If you can do this, you will be an asset to your clients and build your skills and reputation. What do I mean? if you have a dollar to invest, like your clients do, why should you (or they) put it in retail CRE? is it better put in hotels? Industrial? Stocks? Bonds? Cash? Look for the highest and best return on money invested--that is what your partners will be doing. They are paying you for results, not advice (I assume). This will also pay off when you do acquisitions with your family.

So, how to think like an investor? I think the best and cheapest way (without working for an investor or doing an MBA, etc.) is to read Buffett's letters to shareholders--all free on the BRK website. A mentor of mine who went to HBS (for what it's worth) said reading all of them is just as good as business school (sure, easy for him to say, but the letters are incredibly well-written--he writes them so his non-quant aunt will understand them--, often funny and VERY educational). Thre is a book that breaks the letters down by subject, making the reading easier--I think it's Lawrence Cunningham--just make sure you get the most recent edition. There is also a great YouTube Clip of Buffett speaking to the U of Florida (in 1991?) where her talks briefly about how he looks at owning CRE and REITs. I found it very interesting.

A related part of this is to build trust...you are investing in your career for the long term with (ideally long term) investors. I think many "dumb" brokers don't think past their commission--if they just get paid to sell industrial CRE, then they will try to pitch it to customers even if it's not a good deal for them. And if you are willing to tell a client it's not a good deal (and possibly forgo an attempt at a commission) you can build a lot of trust.

2) Think Big Picture.

Closely related to "Think Like an Investor" What are the technological/social/demographic trends that are happening that will affect CRE? And your investors? As someone once said, "Demography is destiny"--or as Barry Sternlict said on a Bloomberg Interview (I paraphrase here) "if you buy CRE in a place where there is demographic growth, growth can bail you out [of potential problems/dips in the cycle, etc]". Many people are flocking into cities and out of suburbs--so what does this mean for your clients? The fact that after the 2008 crisis, you have seen a lot of offices shrink sizes and shared office space like WeWork grow rapidly--and a growth in demand for small food-truck-size retail food spaces (at least in my city). What does this mean for your clients? Or put another way (also by Barry Sternlicht)- an entrepreneurship professor of his told him (as career advice while he was a student) to "Get on the freight train of your life, not under it". Massive demographic shifts (baby boomers selling suburban houses and going to big cities to rent, for instance) are an example of the freight train. Help your clients get on it (and enjoy the ride with them--hopefully profitably)!

3) "If you were in my shoes, would there be anything in particular that would you try and get your hands dirty with?"

Build barriers to entry in your business--by locking up clients. Brokerage is so cut-throat because there are no barrier to entry and everyone is scrambling for the same pie (IMHO). I work for a retail developer in a large US city, and we work with a very successful broker at one of the firms you mention above. Part of the reason this broker is successful is that the broker reps more than one national firm--one a grocery store that started out on the opposite side of the country. This broker I assume saw the grocery store was growing, and before they reached our city, reached out to them and built rapport. Now she has prestige because she reps a quality, credit tenant--and has a (relatively good) barrier to entry in the brokerage world as she is the go-to person for this firm in our city. Now, as a B-school professor of mine once said, barriers to entry (once built) are constantly being eroded--and this is no different. The broker still needs to deliver for the client, (and of lesser importance),send champagne (I assume lots) at the holidays, remember birthdays, etc. Get known as the person who successfully repped a chain, and that can help ensure an income stream and future opportunities--even if it involves switching sides and working on the Real Estate team of that chain. And looking at small, growing companies people haven't heard of yet is probably a good idea, as they are not picked over by brokers yet. Remember, when Sam Walton started out, he had a small chain of discount stores in the Midwest, while major companies like Sears had better credit and were generally much sexier (they had just built the Sears Tower, etc.). Most brokers then probably would prefer to chase after Sears (or some other big chain) first. Remember what Wayne Gretzky said: "I don't skate to where the puck is--I skate to where it's going to be."

Good luck--and PM me if you have any other questions.

 

Bump... No fellow monkeys got any advice? I know they're are some experienced folks out there. Chime in.

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iNoob:

I skimmed the RE forum here on WSO. Not too many individuals here who are currently in CRE brokerage. There are some gem posts about CRE though. PM me as I have some bookmarked.

P.S. I'm also in my senior year of university and I'm interested in office leasing or investment sales.

I still have two and a half years before I graduate. That's why I'm trying to really take FULL opportunity to get ahead while I can. That aside I will go ahead and PM you.

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Hey, glad to hear you are doing well. Thats a very nice start. Shoot me a PM, we actually buy properties as well and need a trustworthy broker. Obviously this also depends on what market you are in.

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Your focus is great - your friends that are partying in college can rent from you when they graduate. I've worked in CRE for years, and had an epiphany in grad school when I was going to intern for an IB or PE group, and my friend suggested a joint project with a RE developer. My buddy explained the RE guys weren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, and were VERY well compensated for the amount of work they were doing. I went into lending, but I work regularly with developers, buyers and sellers. Your hard work now will pave the way for the future.

My only $0.02, from a meeting I had years ago with large CRE brokerage firm, was to buy properties (assuming values are good) as soon as you can. Move from being an employee, to self-employed. Leverage time, save your money and invest in what you know. Hopefully the Dave Camp tax reform doesn't pass on the abolishment of 1031 (or at leasts limits the 1031 to a dollar amount where people like you and me can still benefit).

Best of luck!

 
RE UK:

On a kind of related note to this topic (I didn't want to make a new one). Does anyone know what exit opps are like for JLL (and similar firms) from their capital markets groups. Do people usually stay there or move to REIT etc.?

Really depends. Are you going to be in a deal making role where you're building relationships and sourcing deals or an analyst making sense of the economics behind the deals? It's not a one sized square peg... You can exit into pretty much anything so long as you've done well at your last gig and have a ton of skills that produced results. That's my two cents.

On a side note; I happen to sit right across the way from the office of a gentleman who runs our entire Capital Markets platform on a national basis (think billions of dollars of both debt & equity origination; mostly debt). I get to hear him run the show all over the country from a 12x15 glass box because his door is always open and I can tell you that it sounds like a lot of guys coming into the business are coming from banking backgrounds (especially on the east, were we are really growing our firm's capital markets presence.) which is a bit odd to me because from what I've seen here on the forums people want to do the opposite transition. He often rants about them not having deal making skills and that they're too caught up on spreadsheets. They loose sight of soft skills in pursuit of the technical chops.

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