Cass or Rotterdam (RSM)?

Hi All,

I am seeking an advice as i am really struggling which university should I choose.

I am deciding between these two:

Cass Business School - Msc corporate finance
Rotterdam SChool of Management - Msc Finance & Investments

In future i would like to work for financial advisory firm in London. Clearly, Cass has "London advantage" over RSM. On the other hand, programme in RSM costs 1,800 euro, compared to 24,000 pound for Cass' programme.

My questions are:

Are companies from London (consulting, fin. advisory, IB) hiring at RSM?
Is "London advantage" worth paying 24,000 pounds?
Which uni has stronger name (in consulting/IB, in london and globally)?

I found few discussion about that, but i have still very mixed feelings.

Thank you for any kind of advice, info or opinion.

Have a nice day,
Marty

Comments (32)

Dec 5, 2013 - 10:14am
above_and_beyond, what's your opinion? Comment below:

If I were in your shoes, I would probably choose the RSM program. Imho LSE and Oxbridge are the only programs that are worth an investment of over GBP20k. We invited some RSM students for analyst positions at our bank (though none was hired) and one of my friends from undergrad went from RSM MSc Finance & Investments to a top BB in London, so it's definitely possible.

Btw, are you speaking Dutch, or are you an international student? And what's your GMAT? Have you considered applying to Imperial, LSE, SSE, etc as well?

Dec 5, 2013 - 10:51am
Genocidal_twerker, what's your opinion? Comment below:

So is a combo of a decent CV and an Msc in RSM sufficient to get an interview at a BB? I was under the impression that RSM grads are usually in demand for divisions that cover country-specific markets, hence requiring analysts with fluent/native language skills.

Dec 5, 2013 - 4:25pm
above_and_beyond, what's your opinion? Comment below:

It depends. If you are a dutch student with a strong CV (i.e. good internships and solid grades), then you would probably be invited by some banks, especially for their BeNeLux team. But that one friend of mine who went from MSc RSM to London BB was German, so I don't see why any other student with a solid background shouldn't be able to secure a spot at a BB in London.

Dec 5, 2013 - 10:34am
EBITDAXYZ, what's your opinion? Comment below:

and my vote goes to... RSM

cass is nothing special - not worth the money definitely. placement is similar i guess. answer the questions that a&b asked above so i can understand your case better tho..

Dec 5, 2013 - 11:29am
neil joseph, what's your opinion? Comment below:

CASS not worth it and is shite!! go RSM if u really have to take a call between these two

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Dec 5, 2013 - 4:21pm
above_and_beyond, what's your opinion? Comment below:
nauprillion:

curious why so many have such a negative view regarding CASS...

Personally, I don't have a negative view of Cass, but I just don't feel that the school is worth the bucks given that there are other alternatives in Continental Europe which are not as expensive and place as good as Cass or even better. If I were willing to pay more than GBP20k in tuition fees, I would prefer to pay it to a top program like LSE's Fin or A&F and the usual suspects.

Dec 6, 2013 - 3:17am
Matko, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Thank you for any insight. Basically, i have unconditional offers from both, therefore it is just about my choice. I have also offers from St. Andrews (Finance and management) and University of Edinburgh (Financial Management). But I shortlisted only RSM and Cass.

To answer the questions above: I do not speak Dutch. I am student from Slovakia. My GMAT was 620. i was considering retake, but it would take me another 2 months to prepare and everything. in that time, my chances will be really small. I considered LSE, Imperial and SSE. I was unsuccessful at Imperial. I have not applied for LSE, as i think i do not have strong GMAT and not so good grades from undergraduate. In terms of SSE, I think I am also not competitive. Additionally, they do decision after March so this would put me into risk, as i need to make decision in Cass till end of January. Maybe i underestimate myself, but as I was unsuccessful at Imperial, it will not be better at LSE.

Dec 6, 2013 - 5:50am
Genocidal_twerker, what's your opinion? Comment below:
Matko:
My GMAT was 620. i was considering retake, but it would take me another 2 months to prepare and everything. in that time, my chances will be really small.
I considered LSE, Imperial and SSE. I was unsuccessful at Imperial. I have not applied for LSE, as i think i do not have strong GMAT

For LSE at least, in previous years the intake would still be open around April which should give you plenty of time to work on improving your gmat score. You can give the LSE admissions office a call and ask them when they expect the intake to close. With a solid score of 650 and a GPA equivalent to 2:1 you should be able to get an offer for the Accounting and Finance program.

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Dec 6, 2013 - 6:12am
Matrick, what's your opinion? Comment below:
Genocidal_twerker:
Matko:

My GMAT was 620. i was considering retake, but it would take me another 2 months to prepare and everything. in that time, my chances will be really small.
I considered LSE, Imperial and SSE. I was unsuccessful at Imperial. I have not applied for LSE, as i think i do not have strong GMAT

For LSE at least, in previous years the intake would still be open around April which should give you plenty of time to work on improving your gmat score. You can give the LSE admissions office a call and ask them when they expect the intake to close. With a solid score of 650 and a GPA equivalent to 2:1 you should be able to get an offer for the Accounting and Finance program.

Also, consider making a trip to visit the school and talk to a few admissions people. Works wonders.

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Dec 6, 2013 - 3:24am
Matrick, what's your opinion? Comment below:

There are plenty of RSM alumni in the city. It all comes down to how you perform in the interviews you get because you will for sure get interviews. Cass does have the advantage that you are often times just a few tube stops away from meeting someone for a coffee so you can always network more easily than from Rotterdam.

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Dec 6, 2013 - 3:35am
Matko, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Yes, that is true. But is it really advantage that is worth that money? Many people say that there are many people from RSM in City, but is it target school for City companies? I am just trying to understand whether RSM or Cass is better if i want to pursue career in London later. If the answer were that Cass is better, i would be willing to pay those fees, as master study is long term investment. If the chances are pretty much the same, RSM is definitely better ROI.

Dec 6, 2013 - 4:44am
GBB_19NHS, what's your opinion? Comment below:

placement from RSM is pretty solid though obviously with a tendency towards dutch students and BeneLux related teams. However I have met enough non-dutch that went to RSM and now work in London anywhere from top BB to PE to AM, whatever floats your boat. Will require a bit of leg work from your end but with solid internships you have a good shot at any firm in London really.

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Dec 6, 2013 - 11:13am
quangzizi, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Try LSE, if not then RSM. I know many people from CASS grad and undergraduate, not that impressive and especially not worth the cost.

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Dec 7, 2013 - 5:17am
juliа, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Initially, I had the same dilemma, but finally narrowed down my choice to other schools and cut off both you mention. However, if I were in your shoes, I'd say RSM as well. Its value is obviously higher considering tuition. Nevetheless, I was surprised to see a lot of Cass graduates on Linkedin while checking education of students working in BB. Moreover, one female grad from my country (Eastern Eu) not being eligible to work in EU got place in ML in London ... after msc in management.

Dec 7, 2013 - 2:58pm
juliа, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Of course, I consider: Bocconi (finance) - but still in doubts, try to get more inside information SSE (finance or economics) - but way too expensive for non-eu, almost impossible to get scholarship (for me), but it's free for you (am i right?), so I'd choose this one, If I were you Some research universities. To be honest, everything depends on your preference. Don't look at university only. Btw, If you are still interested, I'll share my thoughts in pm...after getting two more bananas.

Dec 8, 2013 - 3:29pm
Matrick, what's your opinion? Comment below:

PM'd.

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Dec 8, 2013 - 6:21pm
EBITDAXYZ, what's your opinion? Comment below:
Matrick:

PM'd.

why not just post here?

Dec 8, 2013 - 6:22pm
nlsn, what's your opinion? Comment below:

London (Cass) vs Rotterdam (RSM) (Originally Posted: 04/09/2014)

Hello all,

I am looking for an m&a professional career in London. Internship in BB followed by full-time boutique placement is my medium-term professional career objective.

I have an offer in Cass's and RSM's MSc in Finance. Neglecting the financial-related difference between these business schools (Cass' fee is 15x of that of RSM's) from valuation, Which one would you consider best?

Thank you for your help,

Dec 8, 2013 - 6:24pm
EuroLocust, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I understand you're still planning to do that internship in a BB? May I ask whether you have any related experience yet? Also, why would you go to a BB as an intern and then move to a boutique? Firms try to fill slots from their prior interns so you should maybe consider interning where you'd also like to work later on. Just some thoughts...

Now to your question: I'd vote RSM as well on the grounds of having a strong reputation (not stellar but strong) and being incredible value for money... Cass is a good school, too, but the only advantage I see over RSM is location but anyway you probably won't have time to do an internship during study period and the benfit of easier networking is not worth the money.

Dec 8, 2013 - 6:25pm
wanttoberich13, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Cass. Why the fuck would you do a masters in Amsterdam to land a gig in London, that too at a boutique firm? Which London boutique firm flies out to RSM to recruit - you high?

Dec 8, 2013 - 6:27pm
Zonar, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Have attended the bachelor programme in RSM and can say that the Finance Master at RSM will definitely help you get a position in London. I cannot give you advice on the actual programme but from my own research I would say RSM is a better choice than Cass.

Dec 8, 2013 - 6:28pm
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