Is an MBA worthless for buyside nowadays?
Got into HBS/GSB and initially felt like it was a huge achievement. After reading more on WSO, I've been feeling like it's not the same accomplishment that it used to be, as more and more too performers are opting to forego the degree.
Fwiw I'm probably not in the top performer bucket... I originally applied because my career kind of spiraled during past few years, and I ended up in a dead end corporate job after beginning my career in M&A. I was hoping to use the degree to recruit for buyside roles but from everything I've read, it seems like a very challenging macro environment to navigate without strong prior experience. I did a brief stint in IB and hated it so I'm not sure what options I have if I'm interested in pursuing private markets investing without doing IB first. I'm also coming in as an older candidate so I'm too old to do IB first.
Is the value prop for these top programs significantly diminished? Is it worth just sticking it out in the workforce and trying to break in via lateral?
Based on the most helpful WSO content, the value of an MBA for buyside roles has indeed been a topic of debate, especially in recent years. Here's a breakdown of the key points to consider:
1. Declining Value of MBAs for Buyside Roles
2. Challenges for Older Candidates
3. Alternative Paths
4. When an MBA Still Makes Sense
5. Key Considerations
Final Thoughts:
The value proposition of an MBA for buyside roles has diminished for some, but it’s not entirely obsolete. Your decision should hinge on your specific circumstances, including your career goals, current trajectory, and the resources you can access through a top MBA program. If you do decide to pursue the MBA, make sure to have a clear plan for how you’ll leverage it to achieve your goals.
Sources: Q&A: VP in Private Equity (Growth Equity + LBO)...Post-MBA...Formerly IB Analyst, Investment Management After Top MBA - Does Pre-MBA Experience Matter?, Am I missing something about buyside exits?, Turning down HBS/GSB/Wharton for the Promote-Through, Current Value of MBA for Highly Successful Young Professionals
I doubt you're too old for IB. I met a career-switcher who interned at 35 and got a return offer (ASO level) from a decent bank.
Students still get buy-side opportunities from their MBA. I met a couple CBS students who interned at a reputable HF. Granted, they had two full years of IB experience and various other finance roles pre-MBA. The point is that they got a better opportunity than they would've gotten without the MBA.
If someone has no/minimal IB experience and no buy-side experience, then yeah, it's unlikely they get those roles in this job market.
-Source: applicant to business schools this cycle who got to meet a lot of current students. These are just my observations
It's more that I don't want to be 30+ as an associate. The lifestyle is awful at that age
No - CBS is still great for buyside opportunities , especially with VI and the pipeline and tools that it offers. If you work hard enough, you'll be able to find something given the more structured buyside base/network relative to other places. HBS I also see a good amnt of ppl going to buyside roles, but GSB not as much
Why not GSB?
GSB is more of a strong pipeline into the VC/Start Up space. For people that already have buy side experience, the brand name will definitely help with getting looks/interviews, but for career switchers I don't think the program does as good of a job of helping career switchers vs a school like CBS/Booth, at least based off of what I've seen from stock pitch competitions and the quality of students
GSB is more of a strong pipeline into the VC/Start Up space. For people that already have buy side experience, the brand name will definitely help with getting looks/interviews, but for career switchers I don't think the program does as good of a job of helping career switchers vs a school like CBS/Booth, at least based off of what I've seen from stock pitch competitions and the quality of students
MBA makes no sense at this stage to break into buyside. Define buyside here:
PE. This is the worst area in terms of long-term career upside for a 30yr old today. Very top heavy, limited distributions, overvalued vintages, massive overcapacity of capital, software under pressure, etc
This is a ~500k opportunity cost + cost of getting an M7 MBA. Chances of getting in any of the above is v hard, and chances of staying or making it up the chain is even worse
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