IU Kelley has the Weirdest, most Egotistical Students
I'm a rising junior at IU Kelley, and as the title says, the majority of the kids here at Kelley are some of the weirdest people that I've ever met.
1. The officers in the finance clubs have the biggest egos for zero reason. I can list many examples where officers (usually sophomores or juniors) ask freshmen complex, random, or straight up BS questions for club interviews. The funniest part about this is that these officers don't even know how to answer the questions themselves.
2. The majority of people with top offers also have massive egos. I've witnessed incidents this past year where someone going to a top bank (GS/PJT/EVR) straight up ignores other people (usually freshmen) in person, like that person doesn't even respond when freshmen speak to them.
I can name many similar things that happened, this is only the tip of the iceberg. If you have the optionality to go to any other similarly ranked school, then definitely take that over Kelley.
Well yeah they have to make up for their stench somehow
https://nypost.com/2024/07/28/us-news/top-student-in-nyc-as-citibank-in…
IU Kelley students unbearable all around
Bro was shooting like Ja morant
Is this real
Yes it’s been confirmed legit. Crazy stuff
“‘When you’ve had interactions with the opposite sex for a while, you can read the signals. It was like an invitation to come to her apartment to see what’s up,’ the sicko said.”
Average Kelly student
I’ve noticed over time that a few of the analysts we have from there are insufferable
Current IU Kelley student and this is something that I have complained about to my friends on multiple occasions. If you think about it logically, Kelley is not a competitive school in terms of admissions, hence why each class is roughly 2k+ students. Statistically speaking, the majority of the kids in each class are not going to be highly competitive students. The reason that a school like this is still able to place well compared to target school programs that have class sizes of 100 - 500 is because they make the best recruiting opportunities highly selective, hence why interviews for even basic finance clubs can seem unnecessarily challenging and technical.
In my experience, Kelley kids often fall into two buckets - 1. The humble midwest kids that are happy to just get a degree from a decent program and aren't interested in competitive IB / consulting jobs and 2. the east / west coast kids that DO want to pursue IB / consulting jobs and come into Kelley with a massive chip on their shoulder because they probably missed out on acceptance to an Ivy League by a slim margin and are worried that their life is over. Given the competitive structure of recruiting described above, students in this second bucket are forced to obsessively distinguish themselves from the thousands of average joes at the school. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of maturity to stay humble as an insecure 19 / 20 year old after you just grinded your way to a top IB offer, especially when most of your peers are frat kids that haven't even figured out what they want their major to be. Personally, I am the most irritated when these people are rude to freshmen (like you pointed out) because they were in their same shoes just 1 - 2 years ago.
All this being said, I still wouldn't use this as a factor to discourage anybody from applying or attending the school. I guarantee you that there are just as many (if not more) snobs at ivy league and top target schools. IU has 40k kids, if the try-hards aren't your crowd, then you have literally thousands of other options of people to hang out with. The majority of these kids with huge egos tend to mellow out by senior year anyway once they realize that there is more to your self worth than the prestige of your resume. You can still take advantage of all the great opportunities that the school has to offer, just have the maturity to not let your ego get inflated if you end up being successful :)
I don’t really understand your second bucket as people who missed out on Ivies - not sh!ting on IU but there is a pretty big gap between Ivies & IU.
eh, not to be that guy but I would disagree. I think a lot of kids at target schools have a ton of survivorship bias and don't realize how much luck there is involved with the college application process. The top 15 - 20% of kids at Kelley pretty much have the same high school stats (GPA and SAT / ACT) as kids who go to target schools (they did an internal study on this). A lot of these kids end up choosing Kelley because they struck out at Ivies and Kelley ends up being a better option than other more "prestigious" semi targets because they'll give out scholarships to oos kids. For a lot of people, the option of going to IU debt free and earning a top IB job by grinding is more enticing than paying 80k a year for a private school that only gives you a marginal advantage
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Not saying you're wrong, but I'm struggling to understand why on God's green earth somebody competitive for Ivy League admission from one of the coasts (read: center of US culture) would take IU Kelley (a state school that I actually had to look up just now) over one of the 15+ reputable non-Ivy schools (UC Berkeley, Michigan, UVA, et al.)
Edit: actually did some research.. is this what is considered competitive?
Exactly my point. Plenty of other safety schools for a person good enough to possibly get in to an Ivy. Even schools like UNC, Rice, Vandy, Georgetown, UT Austin, Tufts. Those are all locks for getting in, and 5x as prestigious as the 3rd ranked (being generous) B1G school.
Roomed with two kelley students this summer, was about to jump out of my 21st floor window
This is also true for several other state schools with very selective clubs that place a few kids in NY IB. IU not the only one. Lot of insecurity
Current IU student in the IBW and I can 100% confirm this. It’s a major cultural issue, and the issue has been brought up with the professors in charge multiple times. I managed to land a great offer, but I did it without any help from the IB program. Juniors and seniors are only helping their frat/sorority buddies (3.6 GPA degenerates) while ignoring others who work just as hard if not harder but aren’t in the ‘cool club.’ The elitism is real—they look down on anyone who doesn’t fit their mold.
During my recruiting, I got more help from alumni at super targets (H/Y/P) and complete non-targets and semi targets (MSU/Penn State/OSU etc.) than from IU alums. The system is rigged because to get an analyst’s attention, you need a referral from the senior who interned there, but you can’t get that unless you’re in their inner circle. Also heard about some nasty sexist/racist bullying incidents. They need to do better if they want to start being taken seriously. Faculty can only do so much—it’s on the students to stop being assholes and help all students instead of a select few.
Not to sound like a saint but I try arranging chats with all freshman/sophomores who reach out to me regardless of their membership status in the elite finance clubs. Someone did it for me and I’d like to pay it forward.
I have heard people also lay the pipe for referrals for the calls
Can confirm. Know a couple who have.
Always surprised me this doesn't happen more, if I was an officer at a finance club that everybody wanted to get into and some 18yo blonde freshman was willing to get piped to get into the club, I'd do it in a heartbeat
I think it's pretty funny to imagine 6'5 WASP signet ring chad at PIKE Wharton/Yale/Duke doing this, but I know that it's overwhelmingly more likely a skinny indian/asian/pasty nerdy white 5'6 kid with acne and glasses doing this if they're at Kelley IBW. Hilarious to see these ugly 21yo dudes have huge egos because they have an internship offer for IB, just to fail miserably at PE recruiting because they're from Kelley and then land a random MM PE associate role somewhere, get pushed out way before any material carry is paid out and then land in a random corp dev role making a mere $200K like a non-NYC peon.
IU kids hammer the phones hard. I get more IU kids hitting me up than kids from my own school (SEC school) and I have no idea why they hit me up. I will say all of their conversations are very formulaic as they all follow the same path which typically leads to unnatural, boring convos.
Non-target kids have to sometimes fake it till you make it, and the fake stench reeks out when poorly executed. I doubt they’re representative of all IU Kelley kids.
Lot of mid tier big 10 like this (ie IU, UW Madison, UMN)
Is IU Kelley that frat driven? I feel like a good amount of the people I see place out of Kelley are Indians. We have a good amount of Indians in our school's greek life but its an Ivy+ school so its more expected. I would assume that IU Greek life is all white
if ur white it's social frats and if ur indian it's business frats
not trying be rude, that's just the reality
makes sense. I'm sure that they have their own social frats too
Greek life is a great place to Network. So there is no reason Indian people would avoid that opportunity.
I mean Kelley is a great example of the starting on third and thinking you hit a triple bit. You have a lot of these finance bros that think because they go to a school that has the infrastructure that supports getting a job in finance, they themselves are anything special.
I had a big4 internship last summer and met a dude from there, we were in advisory. Dude was a fucken tryhard in all aspects. Socially and professionally. All he kept talking about was how hes gonna be in Ib , how hes gonna make so much money elsewhere and networking at the worst possible times, we could be at a happy hour and dude would be trying to go up to managers and partners treating shit like an interview
FROM A LEADERSHIP TEAM MEMBER OF THE IU INVESTMENT BANKING WORKSHOP: WE SELECT ONLY THE BEST, AND THE ABSOLUTE BRIGHTEST OF IU KELLEY. ANY WEAK OR NEGATIVE IU INVESTMENT BANKING SUMMER ANALYST YOU INTERACT WITH IS NOT A PART OF OUR HIGH-INTENSITY AND PRESTIGIOUS PROGRAM.
- IU KELLEY INVESTMENT BANKING WORKSHOP TEAM
I love how every couple of years, a Kelley kid who doesn’t get into the IBW makes some shitpost on “the truth” about the IBW.
I’m sorry that kids didn’t talk to you and were mean to you. Cookies and milk?
How happy, humble, and kind of you!
BU/OSU/PSU/ASU all have some kind of speciality finance program with students like this.
I know IUK workshops have slightly better placement than the rest of these schools but this is not some kind of truth bomb, that's just how bottom targets work. You have a shitload of kids wanting these IB spots and the ones who had the better guidance / connections gatekeep it so they guarantee their spot. I wasn't in that circle during my undergrad (went to one of the schools I mentioned) and it was frustrating, but I just had to figure it out myself. This is just life.
Can't comment on the specifics of IU, but this is most people in fuhneeeence
I can tell you as an owner of a finance firm these comments are completely false and if you look at the facts. Large investments bank have woken up to Kelly. They see the undergrad Kelly Honors Finance and Real estate majors graduate are leaps and bounds more prepared then their IVY counterparts that spent four years taking minimal business classes an more unnecessary electives. Ask for a class transcript from two graduate and the answer is simple. Also, IU Kelly received in 2024 27,000 applications for 2000 available spots or a 7.5% acceptance rate. But if you do try to go to Kelly for One of their top 10 Majors be prepared for four years of hell, but you will come out way head of your competition, and the big firms know.
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