Hello all,
My undergrad is in Supply chain management and post-graduation I spent 3 years in Purchasing but over the last two I have pivoted to Corporate Finance. I felt I needed to beef up my financial acumen while boosting my analytical skills so I pursued Corporate Finance supporting the Purchasing team at an industrial/manufacturing company, tough at first but easy transition since I was familiar with Purchasing.
I’ve been accepted to Kellogg and Ross’ weekend program and Georgetown’s FT program (I wasn’t completely sure which I wanted to pursue). After receiving the acceptances, I am really leaning towards the FT format as it would align with my goals but Kellogg’s brand is very hard to ignore even though it wouldn’t be FT. They allow students to recruit through On Campus recruiting in their final year and the average salaries coming out of Kellogg are higher than GT. I’ve sort of crossed out Ross because their PT class was quite homogeneous (a lot of engineers) and if I go PT I’d like to go for the best brand out there. Kellogg would mean either commuting from Detroit every weekend (which would suck) or moving to Chicago and starting at a new company (difficult but not impossible). Georgetown would be a smooth transition, I would enjoy not having to worry about work and can focus on school and networking.
Goal is to switch to consulting internationally or corporate strategy, I want to go work in the Middle East or South Asia. I can work in the US but I want to gain some international experience plus I have family ties in South Asia. For these goals I know that the FT program is definitely the right path but is Kellogg’s PT > Georgetown’s FT program purely from a brand perspective? I know that strategy positions are prestigious and they focus on FT grads but would a Kellogg PT beat our GT FT for a strategy position? Would Kellogg’s PT program beat out GT’s FT in most other functions/industries in terms of placement? I expect to pay a lot of money at either place but I’m trying to understand which would provide the greatest ROI. Would appreciate any advice.
Find a job in Chicago and start at Kellogg. Every company needs Finance staff, it shouldn't be hard for you to find a good role. Once you're enrolled in Kellogg, kick ass academically and then transfer into the full-time program.
Is switching into the Full-Time Program a possibility and what's the criteria to be able to do so? I've read that they treat you like a new applicant. I don't have the Kellogg GMAT #s but considering I would be in the program that might give me some sort of an advantage?
And let's assume I can't get into the FT program, the original question I had then still applies because I would have to be ready for the worst case scenario which would be that I continue in the PT program.
Should I inquire about this through the mba program office or would that be inappropriate and tip them off that that is my endgame here?
I don't think so re: switching. I'm at Booth. We have part time students who quit work and take a full course load and call themselves full time, but the school still classifies them as part-time. I imagine Kellogg is similar.
In terms of salary - bear in mind that Kellogg's part time program probably has a higher average age/WE at matriculation so generally graduates are a bit further along the career spectrum. I honestly think they're a bit of a wash or a slight tilt to Kellogg, but it comes down to geography (if int'l didn't work out right away, would you prefer the midwest or mid-atlantic) and full time vs part time (2 years no income except for an internship vs 2 years working your ass off while in school).
Thanks for the reply. I actually spoke to a student today who said that Kellogg sends out an email to students in the PT program once a year who would like to apply to the FT program. Not sure whether this is true or not.
Regarding your point about Kellogg PT vs GT FT being a wash. The things I'm considering when I try to compare the two are: - Companies that visit Kellogg (On Campus Recruiting is open to both formats). Bit concerned about this at Kellogg because I know they come for the FT grads and don't know whether they are biased against PT or not. - The Network (Kellogg, would be much stronger here, I believe) - Returns over the next 20-30 years. I believe this is tied to the the second point I made, wouldn't the Kellogg name carry a much heavier weight internationally? - Work/life/school balance. Will definitely be tough but not impossible and would be worth it to have the brand on my resume.
Thoughts on these?
The annual PT to FT transfer process at Kellogg is a real thing. However, it is by no means automatic. The success rate is 20-25%, you have to have finished all core classes, and you will be cohorted with the 1Y FT class starting in June (graduating the following June).
As far as recruiting goes, companies do not discriminate between FT and PT candidates. However, the professional services (consulting/IB) preparation available to FT students is significantly higher, given that most of this preparation is student-run.
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In regards to the transfer from PT to FT in Kellogg's policy guide it says transfers are only allowed, "to students whose circumstances do not allow them to complete the program on a part-time basis". Could you elaborate on what they mean by this.
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