Debating between two offers -- fixed income and commodities

Hi all,

I'm feeling very conflicted with two offers that I have in hand right now for 2025 summer. Would appreciate some insight:

  1. Fixed income S&T at a MM bank in NYC

  2. Commodity S&T at a BB bank in Houston

I don't know how much I like commodities or Houston, but it's hard to say no to a bulge bracket. Would taking the commods offer silo me in commodities as a FT? How easy would it be to pivot again to fixed income? To be honest, the biggest downside for me is that it's in Houston. I'd much rather be in NYC. Is choosing between the two asset classes for a junior summer internship really that big of a deal? How bad is it to be at an MM vs a BB for an internship? 

Thanks!

 

Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some key points to consider when deciding between your two offers:

Fixed Income S&T at a MM Bank in NYC

  • Location Preference: You mentioned a strong preference for NYC over Houston. Being in a city you prefer can significantly impact your overall experience and satisfaction.
  • Work Environment: MM banks often provide a more inclusive environment where analysts get to touch everything and have more direct interaction with MDs and directors. This can be beneficial for learning and networking.
  • Career Flexibility: Working at an MM bank might offer a broader range of experiences, which can be advantageous if you are still exploring your interests within finance.

Commodity S&T at a BB Bank in Houston

  • Prestige and Exit Opportunities: BB banks like Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, etc., are often seen as more prestigious and can offer better exit opportunities, especially if you aim to work in large business investing or megafund PE.
  • Specialization: While commodities can be a niche area, BB experience is highly regarded. However, if you are not particularly interested in commodities, this might feel limiting.
  • Pivoting: Transitioning from commodities to fixed income might be challenging but not impossible. Networking and leveraging your BB experience can help in making such a pivot.

Additional Considerations

  • Training and Support: MM banks might lack formal training processes, and you might be thrown straight into the work. BB banks typically have more structured training programs.
  • Work-Life Balance: MM banks can sometimes offer a better work-life balance compared to BB banks, but this can vary widely depending on the specific firm and group.

Conclusion

  • Personal Preference: Given your preference for NYC and potential interest in a broader range of experiences, the MM bank might be a better fit.
  • Career Goals: If prestige and specific exit opportunities are more critical to you, the BB offer might be more advantageous despite the location.

Ultimately, weigh your personal preferences, career goals, and the specific pros and cons of each offer to make the best decision for your situation.

Sources: 5 Reasons to Avoid Working in MM Investment Banking (Other than Prestige/Exit-Ops), Why do MM IB shops get trashed on so much?, What is life like at no-Bulge Bracket Investment banks?, Market Risk at Commercial Bank VS Ops Risk at MM, An old man looking for advice

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Although it sucks it’s in Houston, as somebody in a FICC role at BB, commodities at a BB I’d probably the better career deduction. Depending on the product, balance sheet size matters a lot in fixed income. Even in non-balance sheet heavy products, the bigger banks tend to dominate the sell side activity in fixed income. Commodities at a BB in Houston will put you in the best place to be for a growing and lucrative product. Not to mention, while Houston might suck, with cost of living, you will be like the king of Houston for people your age

 

Agreed on balance sheet but your pay and experience as an analyst will be virtually the same unless this MM is truly a no name. I assume OP is going to try to lateral after year 1 in either case

 

Really depends what the firms are, if GS/JP/MS you can probably use that to win an offer at a lower tier bank in NYC, if not, I wouldn’t be so sure. As for switching from commodities to fixed income it’s easier if you are shooting for an interest rate desk, commodities is very macro and won’t set you up well to think about companies (as would be the focus in credit). That being said, it is very early in your career and it seems you like everything about your MM offer except for the brand name - there are plenty of chances to switch banks but few opportunities to switch products and cities.

If you don’t want to live outside NYC for potential a couple years at least I would strongly recommend taking the New York offer

 

Personally I would think about two things 1) which desk do you find more interesting / like the people more and 2) what you want to do longer term. On the second, you should try and figure out what exit opportunities exist for both jobs.  I'm not sure what you can do w/ a commodities trading job outside of staying in commodities (I know one guy who moved to eventually doing private credit and one person who went into energy private equity and one person went to a hedge fund) but it seems like most people stay in commodities.  If the fixed income job is a really no-name bucket then I would eliminate that and take the commodities firm. But if it's just a smaller bank (just not one of the 3-4 big ones), I would take that and use it to move to a better shop in the future assuming you like fixed income better. Good luck w/ the decision! You're lucky to have multiple offers!

 

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