We're Doomed!!! Where is everyone putting their money right now?

With the market falling another 400pts this morning, oil dipping below $28, companies releasing arguably good earnings and still falling, averages falling below August 2015 lows... where is everyone putting their money?

Or, in the words of Bernie Sanders (Larry David) are "We Doomed!"? (See link below if you haven't already)

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plenty of quality names down 20% or more from their highs and at more reasonable (not bargain basement) valuations. it's not the end of the world, it's simply the 3rd 10% decline since 2011 that could turn into the first 20% decline & recession since 2008. I doubt it'll be as bad as 2008, but this is why you manage risk, buy quality, and don't let the market dictate your emotions.

 

Real estate is still incredibly solid. Of course it changes from market to market.

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"CRE"

Real estate is still incredibly solid. Of course it changes from market to market.

They said that is 07 too. Before the mass defaults started to occur.

I wouldn't say its as solid as it seems. Sub-prime credit cards and auto loans are at an all time high and student loans are encumbering. Not to mention the stagnation of wages over the last years (those mortgages seemed reasonable based on standard income steps up, except when those don't happen).

I'm not saying anything, I'm just saying it might not be all there as we see.

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I'm not sure where to even start with the crazy state of markets today:

  1. Crushing student loan debt
  2. Subprime auto loans
  3. Low oil prices 3.5. Instability in the Middle East (this point doesn't get it's own integer because there hasn't been stability in the Middle East since the beginning of Islam, but still)
  4. Leveraged ETFs
  5. Tech Bubble
  6. Donald Trump
  7. Star Wars VIII delayed
  8. Kim Kardashian ,etc.

Time to buy Bitcoin and dust off the tinfoil hat collection.

 
"Gangster Putin"

I'm not sure where to even start with the crazy state of markets today:

1. Crushing student loan debt
2. Subprime auto loans
3. Low oil prices
3.5. Instability in the Middle East (this point doesn't get it's own integer because there hasn't been stability in the Middle East since the beginning of Islam, but still)
4. Leveraged ETFs
5. Tech Bubble
6. Donald Trump
7. Star Wars VIII delayed
8. Kim Kardashian
,etc.

Time to buy Bitcoin and dust off the tinfoil hat collection.

Why Leveraged ETFs?

 

It may not be the wisest of moves but Im still rather interested in FANG. As it is, I had some NFLX weekly Calls open considering I was bullish for their ER today. They didn't exactly perform as expected upon market open yet regardless I was fortunate enough to end the day with a profit and increase in AUM. I quickly liquidated the calls and purchased ATM puts which more than covered my losses as I one more liquidated once the 103 resistance had been broken and momentum began to pick up, I waited until it reached 98.00 for my BOT trigger to fill for 35 shares and then (and continue to do so) rode it back to 107. In conclusion, FANG's volatility is still allowing for some strong ups and downs and on certain occasions such as this one, constant ups and downs. Through simple use of options and stocks one can moderately hedge against unforeseen occurrences and in my opinion, STILL PROFIT in these "hard times" Anyone agree? Simply put, as long as the stock is moving one way or another and not in between, there are still opportunities. Just my personal experience today. Cheers.

Carl Van Loon Van Loon & Associates
 
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it's amazing on a finance forum so many people are short sighted. assuming most of you guys aren't talking about a 6-12 month trade and are talking about long term money, I suggest you stop trying to make a little bit of money buying levered ETFs, commodities, or bailing out of stocks in favor of government debt.

have a look here: http://kennedy-financial.com/2012/07/78-reasons-why-not-to-invest-in-th…

add to the list 2013: market hits all time high 2014: oil price collapses 2015: reasons listed in this thread

no one ever went broke being long term bullish, plenty of people have gone broke with leverage & derivatives, and you likely won't build significant wealth if you just invest in treasuries or gold.

best investment strategy for most of this forum (in their 20's) is to have enough disposable money to save during any market (cash on hand to buy when there's blood in the streets), and be long global stocks. end of story.

 
"thebrofessor"

it's amazing on a finance forum so many people are short sighted. assuming most of you guys aren't talking about a 6-12 month trade and are talking about long term money, I suggest you stop trying to make a little bit of money buying levered ETFs, commodities, or bailing out of stocks in favor of government debt.

have a look here: http://kennedy-financial.com/2012/07/78-reasons-wh...

add to the list
2013: market hits all time high
2014: oil price collapses
2015: reasons listed in this thread

no one ever went broke being long term bullish, plenty of people have gone broke with leverage & derivatives, and you likely won't build significant wealth if you just invest in treasuries or gold.

best investment strategy for most of this forum (in their 20's) is to have enough disposable money to save during any market (cash on hand to buy when there's blood in the streets), and be long global stocks. end of story.

Legit advice.

 

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