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Mar 2, 2013

get the offer first.

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Mar 2, 2013

how is 80-90 hours a week not a sweatshop? that's standard banking hours-yeah, you'll have 100 or 120 hours weeks, but that's definitely worse than your average week in banking (provided you don't work for moelis)

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Mar 2, 2013
wso_user:

how is 80-90 hours a week not a sweatshop? that's standard banking hours-yeah, you'll have 100 or 120 hours weeks, but that's definitely worse than your average week in banking (provided you don't work for moelis)

seconded. not many places will have you work 100+ hrs regularly.

sidenote: i have a friend on the west coast working at ms tech and he tells me analysts there work 100 -120+ hours consistently. probably the worst sweatshop i've heard of. amazing group though but i thought being in menlo park was bad enough...

Mar 2, 2013
wso_user:

you'll have 100 or 120 hours weeks

Is this just a guess or do you actually know someone who works at blackstone GSO?

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Mar 2, 2013

Oh you young bloods, how you speak so cavalierly about throwing yourself into the meat grinder.

Do you realize what a 90 hour week means? That means if you work 15 hours a day every single week day (10 A.M. - 1 A.M.) you still get to work A FULL WORK DAY (9-5 assuming a half hour break for lunch) both weekend days. You will have no personal life. You will lose touch with your friends and family. Assuming you average 7 hours of sleep (less than healthy) and have a half hour commute, you will have a whopping 1 hour a day on weekdays to spend shitting, showering, shaving and getting dressed. if you want to go on a 2 hour date, you're reducing your sleep time to 5 hours.

Now imagine living like that for 2 years.

90 hours is a brutal fucking work week. If you work a 90 hour week on average throughout a 2 year analyst stint, I promise you will have at least a mild existential crisis. Fortunately, i've found that banking hours are kind of overstated. 90 is a bad week. Not that you won't stay until 2 AM pretty regularly, but there's a huge difference between 2 AM every week or so and 1 AM every single day. 2 AM once a week isn't a big deal, 1 AM for a month straight will break you as a man. If you're working a 90 hour week for 2 years, you're a fucking idiot who should have had a heart to heart with your staffer or left.

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Mar 2, 2013
NYCbandar:

Oh you young bloods, how you speak so cavalierly about throwing yourself into the meat grinder.
Assuming you average 7 hours of sleep (less than healthy) and have a half hour commute, you will have a whopping 1 hour a day on weekdays to spend shitting, showering, shaving and getting dressed. if you want to go on a 2 hour date, you're reducing your sleep time to 5 hours.

Well, I disagree with the fact that 7h are unhealthy. I remember a study that showed that sleeping between 7-9h is optimal, while everything below or above reduces life expectation.

I agree with the rest, but thats just how it is

Mar 3, 2013
NYCbandar:

Oh you young bloods, how you speak so cavalierly about throwing yourself into the meat grinder.

Do you realize what a 90 hour week means? That means if you work 15 hours a day every single week day (10 A.M. - 1 A.M.) you still get to work A FULL WORK DAY (9-5 assuming a half hour break for lunch) both weekend days. You will have no personal life. You will lose touch with your friends and family. Assuming you average 7 hours of sleep (less than healthy) and have a half hour commute, you will have a whopping 1 hour a day on weekdays to spend shitting, showering, shaving and getting dressed. if you want to go on a 2 hour date, you're reducing your sleep time to 5 hours.

Now imagine living like that for 2 years.

90 hours is a brutal fucking work week. If you work a 90 hour week on average throughout a 2 year analyst stint, I promise you will have at least a mild existential crisis. Fortunately, i've found that banking hours are kind of overstated. 90 is a bad week. Not that you won't stay until 2 AM pretty regularly, but there's a huge difference between 2 AM every week or so and 1 AM every single day. 2 AM once a week isn't a big deal, 1 AM for a month straight will break you as a man. If you're working a 90 hour week for 2 years, you're a fucking idiot who should have had a heart to heart with your staffer or left.

How about 100+ hours a week for 2 months?

Mar 9, 2013
HarvardOrBust:
NYCbandar:

Oh you young bloods, how you speak so cavalierly about throwing yourself into the meat grinder.

Do you realize what a 90 hour week means? That means if you work 15 hours a day every single week day (10 A.M. - 1 A.M.) you still get to work A FULL WORK DAY (9-5 assuming a half hour break for lunch) both weekend days. You will have no personal life. You will lose touch with your friends and family. Assuming you average 7 hours of sleep (less than healthy) and have a half hour commute, you will have a whopping 1 hour a day on weekdays to spend shitting, showering, shaving and getting dressed. if you want to go on a 2 hour date, you're reducing your sleep time to 5 hours.

Now imagine living like that for 2 years.

90 hours is a brutal fucking work week. If you work a 90 hour week on average throughout a 2 year analyst stint, I promise you will have at least a mild existential crisis. Fortunately, i've found that banking hours are kind of overstated. 90 is a bad week. Not that you won't stay until 2 AM pretty regularly, but there's a huge difference between 2 AM every week or so and 1 AM every single day. 2 AM once a week isn't a big deal, 1 AM for a month straight will break you as a man. If you're working a 90 hour week for 2 years, you're a fucking idiot who should have had a heart to heart with your staffer or left.

How about 100+ hours a week for 2 months?

If it's a sexy transaction that you're really adding value on, The kind of deal where you sit down at 8 in the morning, jam, look up and realize it's fucking 3 AM and you and you're team have wrecked shop, it's tough but it's worth it. I do that happily. Look when there's a transaction that needs to get done, I'll get it done come hell or high water and I'll smile the whole time.

You harpoon your whale, you don't sleep for a couple months, you bag it and tag it, and the bank gets paid. You take a couple days off, because you've earned it, and then back to the desk to hunt. That's how the game is supposed to work. 90 hours a week for two years isn't doing what needs to get done, it's a masochistic dick measuring contest about who can work the longest hours without cracking. No bank brings in so much business with such regularity that they need their analysts for 90 hours a week for two years. 90 hours a week for two years means your senior bankers don't give a shit about you, and that's not a place you want to be.

Mar 2, 2013
Floridarolf:
wso_user:

you'll have 100 or 120 hours weeks

Is this just a guess or do you actually know someone who works at blackstone GSO?

don't know anything about gso, sorry for the confusion. what i meant was that it's funny that the op asks if it's a sweatshop or of it's only "80-90" hours weeks. I was clarifying that even in banking, 80-90 hours are the norm and 100 to 120 are not as common as you think

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Mar 2, 2013

But lets come back to the topic: I need someone who can tell me the answer to my question.

Mar 3, 2013
Floridarolf:

But lets come back to the topic: I need someone who can tell me the answer to my question.

you "need" the answer to your question do you? shut up. you haven't even an offer yet.

Mar 3, 2013
Oreos:
Floridarolf:

But lets come back to the topic: I need someone who can tell me the answer to my question.

you "need" the answer to your question do you? shut up. you haven't even an offer yet.

yes, and i would really much appreciate if you would stop spamming your "opinion" here.

Mar 3, 2013

Stupid question? whats stupid in asking simply for the working hours. thats it. its that simple.
I have other obligations, that do not allow me to work over 80 hours. if i know that I will do have to work more, I wouldnt even bother to apply (The application takes time, which is very scarce)

Mar 3, 2013
Floridarolf:

Stupid question? whats stupid in asking simply for the working hours. thats it. its that simple.
I have other obligations, that do not allow me to work over 80 hours. if i know that I will do have to work more, I wouldnt even bother to apply (The application takes time, which is very scarce)

okay, two things: i) if you haven't been working these sort of hours prior to GSO, you're unlikely to be the sort of guy they're looking for (e.g., not M&A, Lev Fin); and ii) your time spent on this thread = 0.5(time for application), looks like you've run out time, it's bed time soon.....

Mar 3, 2013

Just...don't apply. If you're too fucking busy that you need to decide if applying is worth your valuable time, and are concerned you will work hard if you get the job, then you're probably not the type of candidate they want anyways.

Mar 3, 2013
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