Difficulty of finding a finance job in a non-finance city suburb after banking

I wanted to get opinions from those who have worked in finance. I will be starting out in banking in a city with a lot of finance culture but honestly have no desire to live in a major city forever (I come from a small town). I hope to live in the southwest somewhere anywhere between LA and Houston in a suburban area. For someone who starts in banking how difficult is it to find a finance job that will allow you to live in a suburb in Scottsdale, Glendale, Phoenix, Austin, Dallas, San Diego etc.

My main focus isn't money so any job that will allow me to support a family and have a home in these areas (Thinking around 150-250k by age 35-40) is what I consider solid. Of course, I wouldn't turn down more. Also, what kind of jobs would I be looking at. It seems there isn't a set path as not many people express interest in what I am aiming for.

 

a MD that i know at a strong MM made the switch to PWM at a BB

it's not common for sure, generally reserved for those looking for a significant lifestyle improvement due to old age, familial reasons etc

 

Know Associate level people from BB IB who became PWM guys. Not sure how much they make. Can also try corporate finance or something. Also another very attractive option is to become mid level finance guy or even CFO level at some sponsor owner PortCo in say $20-$30mm EBITDA range. They always have shortage of qualified people, are in the middle of nowhere and will give you equity that makes you pretty rich at some point.

 

I would generally encourage you to pursue the best opportunity you can find, regardless of city, at least right out of school. It's tough to go right into corp dev, and I wouldn't encourage it even if you could. However, in some of those cities, there may be a decent MM bank if you hate the thought of living in a bigger city. But, if you were considering pursuing something like IB, I'd go work in NYC, SF, Houston, etc. if you can swing it first, even if just for 1-2 years.

 

Its very easy. There are fewer finance jobs in these cities, but fewer people going for those jobs. Especially at the junior level where you're the only young person who wants to be in these smaller cities or suburbs.

To make it even easier, big NYC shops are starting to grow offices in these satellite cities more. Two recent examples, GS is making a big push in Dallas and Alliance Bernstein is moving its HQ to Nashville (LOL). Happy hunting.

 

Thanks. Is it even worth starting in banking in a major city? I felt like this would give me better opportunities/more opportunities in these cities but wondering if I should just try to start out in one of these positions instead.

 

If I was in your shoes, I would consider all cities with the goal of getting the best learning experience possible. That is the great difference maker IMHO. Ask any successful person who's 10-20 years past their first gig, and they'll probably tell you that the first job or two is all about what you learn. So I would still consider a top group in NYC if it has a strong track record of minting good analysts who go on to good exits. But get a sense in the interview of whether you'll work on good stuff and learn a lot. If you meet a team in a smaller town that seems committed to your development and you can back that up with other evidence (e.g.. ex analysts who say good things) then certainly consider that too.

 

Thanks for the great responses everyone. Super excited by what I've heard so far and have a few followup questions: 1) It sounds like there are actually plenty of opportunities in these areas. Would it still make sense to start in banking in a major city or should I just shoot for those straight away. My hope was that having banking would allow me to come in at a higher level or just access better jobs. 2) Obviously large PE fund recruiting is extremely accelerated and somewhat structured. Would recruiting for these kinds of jobs (Lower mm Pe/corp dev/commercial banking/pwm) also be super early or are these things all on a random sort of timeline. 3) Seen LMM PE/Local IB mentioned a few times. Any insight on salary here? I know that where I'm from those guys don't seem to do too well. Is this something that varies widely by firm? Thanks again for all the help!

 

10/10 recommend the greater houston area. North and West Houston has plenty of upstream/midstream energy jobs and you can live 10 minutes away from a bank, F100 energy co, etc and feel like you're in the country. South Houston has significant downstream/chemicals companies, as well as some aerospace (legacy NASA).

Houston gets a bad rap for its sprawl, but that might be what you are looking for.

 

Honestly I have been considering Houston a lot lately. I am definitely looking for the sprawl and lifestyle that you described. Unfortunately I have no experience with energy. Assuming that I could find some finance positions that wouldn't require expansive knowledge of O&G industry?

 

you shouldn't have too much trouble assuming you have decent IB experience and can articulate it. Corp dev, biz dev, fp&a, commercial banking, strategy - plenty of options with paths to earn 150-250 w/ 12+ years of experience.

 

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