LinkedIn Secrecy - Hedge Funds

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Hi all

I have perused many profiles who don't list an actual employer - rather they enter "New York based Hedge Fund" for example. Why is this? Do some funds not allow employees to advertise that they work there and if so, why? I would hazard a guess it would be concerns of poaching?

Thanks

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Jan 18, 2019

John Tuld, bummer your thread hasn't had a response yet. Sometimes bots are smarter than humans anyways:

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Jan 21, 2019

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Jan 21, 2019

I don't have an answer to your question. Just here to say great user name.

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Jan 22, 2019

Just have me Eric Dale here by 6:30.

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Jan 22, 2019

We shut his phone off. So I called his wife, and he's not home!

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Jan 24, 2019

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Jan 23, 2019

Carmello was a pipe-hitting motherf---er, I don't know what kind of executive security Tuld had, but man...
Tuld's top team of execs say "we can't find Eric Dale!!" Tuld, calmly, "Carmello... get me Eric Dale."

Chills.

Jan 24, 2019

Brilliant scene.

Jan 24, 2019

My goal in life is to have my own Carmello.

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Jan 21, 2019

I was wondering this too

Jan 22, 2019

yeah some funds just like to keep a very very low profile. it can be for a variety of reasons. poaching is probably one of them. for quant funds ive heard people keep it secret so that other places dont figure out what kind of strategies they're running. If people know they hired so and so person from xyz field then that might give them ideas

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Jan 22, 2019

Very true, if the quant was in upper academia, chances are their MA or PhD research was published in a journal, showcased at a symposium or at least on their academia.edu profile.

Jan 22, 2019

Just being a 1st year analyst in a HF and I have been told not to put a description of my job on LinkedIn. I can only put that I work in "equities" in "company XYZ" even if the strategies I cover are very vanilla. So I guess some fund even ask you not to say that you work for them...
I've asked my PM and he does not want to be linked to any specific strategy through me. Some PMs might be even more paranoid...

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Jan 22, 2019

are you at exoduspoint? lol

Jan 22, 2019

his PM's gonna tell him to delete his WSO account now lol

Jan 22, 2019

Of course no. I am not that stupid.

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Jan 22, 2019

Sounds like exactly what someone at ExodusPoint would say.

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Jan 22, 2019

friend of mine works for Soros...was told not to even HAVE a linkedin...and not to have any online confirmation that he works for Soros (don't list employer on facebook, etc...).

just google it...you're welcome

Jan 22, 2019

I feel like that might be more specific to Soros though, with the amount of anti-Semitic vitriol that has been crafted online towards him. Honestly, it's probably in the employees' best interests to have that policy.

Jan 24, 2019

Antisemitic? Even Israel hates Soros.

The dudes a bond villain to the public eye, whether it's warranted or not. Claims of anti semitism because of distrust of him are largely unfounded except for fringe groups

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Jan 24, 2019

Soros is a primary capital source of community agitators across the US. He makes volatility bets then uses his political clout/network to spark volatility.

He's connected to everything from Black Lives Matter to the migrant caravans.

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Jan 24, 2019

Soros is one of many sources of funding for a variety of community groups. Soros isn't funding caravans from Latin America. He is funding support for refugees, whose plight he understood as a Jew who had to leave Germany during the Nazi era. As for BLM, in what way is advocating for fairer policing agitating the community? You speak as if the right doesn't fund their own "community agitators" like the NRA or the white supremacy groups doing the marches. Those groups outrage not just communities, but the nation as a whole. Also Soros no longer trades and his most profitable trades were often directional, not volatility-based.

Jan 24, 2019

NRA isn't an agitation group - it is a defender of our second amendment. Would you like to live in a society without rights/freedom? If so, feel free to relocate to China. Also - there are more firearms than people in the USA, so do explain how a door-to-door confiscation would realistically happen.

There is a difference between assistance to refugees and unlimited uncontrolled migration of individuals who are uneducated, do not speak our language, and do not wish to assimilate. Immigration should be a controlled merit based system.

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Jan 24, 2019

LOL the NRA is not a defender of the 2nd amendment. They are lobbyists for gun manufacturers.

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Jan 24, 2019

They are both, and I am not a huge NRA fanboy. I am a huge proponent of Constitutionalism. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

The truth is that homicide rates have dropped considerably while gun availability has surged. If you want to make a data-based case, see the suicide correlation (which is also a symptom of the opiod crisis...).

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Jan 26, 2019

Did you miss the part of stats 1 where they teach you correlation isn't causation?

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Jan 24, 2019

No one is advocating for mass-confiscation of guns or unlimited uncontrolled migration, neither of which is practical. Those are fictions the right-wingers drum up to rally their base. Most of the policy on gun control is about reasonable background checks and delaying the process by a day or a week (which is still much faster than a driver's license appointment), hardly infringing on your right to own a gun. The 2nd amendment was intended for a largely agrarian/rural society to be able to defend itself against potential invasions/agitations from the British, hence the reason the 2nd amendment starts with the purpose of having a militia. But 2nd amendment proponents typically don't bring up that part of the 2nd amendment. Originalist constructions of the Constitution seem to never bring up the context that when the framers wrote the 2nd amendment, the state-of-the-art at the time was slow-loading muskets and rifles and pistols, which certain outmatch fists and knives, but not by much.

Jan 24, 2019

Any willing man with a firearm is a part of the militia. I fully understand this portion of the amendment - this is the primary reason why America cannot be invaded by a traditional ground attack.

Make no mistake, there are plenty of Marxist left wing politicians who want to stop at nothing short of full gun confiscation. Don't be naive.

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Jan 25, 2019

You really believe that hicks with guns is our first system of defense against a ground invasion? Normally I wouldn't entertain such a naive, uninformed statement, but this one is tough to ignore. So Russia, with its enormous capabilities of air attacks, heavily armed ground vehicles, drone technology, missiles, etc., would be intimidated by Billy's pump-action shotgun? Neat.

"Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

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Jan 25, 2019

What a smug elitist beta-male prick. I bet you've never even been in a fist fight.

The state of Texas alone could probably repel a ground invasion by any foreign country. Where do you think all the special forces come from?

You are the worst type of citizen in this country. I bet you feel entitled to all the gourmet food you eat and trips you take - where do you think all of the energy and food comes from? You probably fashion yourself some sort of god from your little apartment in Manhattan.

Go fuck yourself. There are still real men that exist in this country; have fun in your little New World Order bubble while it lasts.

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Jan 25, 2019

Incredible how wide the culture gap is where some people find it as a source of pride that they have been in a fist fight

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Jan 24, 2019

NRA is a gun industry lobbying group - full stop. They are there to make gun sales go up by agitating the base at the right time.

Jan 25, 2019

Keep gulping down your daily dose of CNN, zombie...

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Jan 25, 2019

Wow you're stupid. Now i get why you're a realtor

I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.

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Jan 28, 2019

We have hit an average annual ROI of 20%+ since inception over 10 years ago (average weighted performance across four funds). Meanwhile, hedge funds struggle to beat the S&P 500. Your comment in and of itself shows your stupidity.

Jan 28, 2019

lmao ok 2nd year associate.

I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.

Jan 24, 2019

Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin collectively killed over 50 million people (conservative estimate). Tyranny occurs when Individuals have no means to protect themselves against an increasingly powerful State.

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Jan 24, 2019

Soros is a well-known donor of far left wing political advocates and organizations. Not acknowledging this is being very ignorant to the facts.

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Jan 26, 2019
traderlife:

Black males are 20 times more likely to kill white than a white male is to kill a black. In absolute numbers it's about double; adjusted for population of black males about 1/10 to 1/8 of white males it's a huge discrepancy.

Why not white lives matter when blacks are killing us at a much higher rate?

What the fuck are you talking about? Stick to your made up BS posts about HF strategies and stop making up BS right wing statistics or quoting Fox news.

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Jan 27, 2019

You can easily verify that

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Jan 27, 2019

I saw better data but still in 30 seconds found this. Black lives matter was always stupid when the crime stats show blacks killing whites is far above white on black crime.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/08/10/african-ameri...

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Jan 28, 2019

This is basic knowledge for those that have any ability to think critically about our society. Black culture has a huge issue in America, which will only be fixed by 1. ending the welfare state that incentivizes single motherhood and 2. black societies' rejection of glorification of rappers/athletes that are by and large horrible role models for young children.

Instead, self-serving black community organizers point the finger at the white man because its easier than taking responsibility for the communities they supposedly serve. Educated conservative black men like Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, and Walter Williams tell the truth.

And before all the New York self-loathing beta males start shrieking "racism!", Asians are soundly superior to whites in America when it comes to education, crime, and family outcomes.

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Jan 28, 2019

Soros has entirely taken himself off the wheel on the investing side of his family office and, for many years, has focused entirely on the Open Society Foundation which has aided millions of inflicted refugees in sub-saharan africa / middle east. Do you think the stance he just took on China's president was really all a part of an underlying volatility bet on the global markets? The family office makes concentrated, deep value bets on companies they think trade intrinsically cheap, while sometimes making more thematic, macro trades. You clearly know little to nothing about Soros - this sounds more like antisemitic witch hunting than anything else. Take your backwards views to some alt right, conspiracist subreddit...

"Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

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Jan 28, 2019

Ah, "anti-semitic" - the supposed ultimate trump card that ends all debates. Here's a question - should any criticism of the Jewish people be allowed, or do they have a monopoly on moral supremacy?

Jan 25, 2019

I feel like bringing up Israel is almost "I have black friends, so I'm not racist". Soros has become the new Rothschild fixation of conspiracy theories about Jews running the world. It's not so fringe either, Glenn Beck ran a segment called "The Puppet Master" on Fox News about him. The idea of a behind the scenes international financier controlling the world is a very old antisemitic trope dating back hundreds of years. Is every critic of his antisemitic? Of course not. He's got plenty of policies he advocates that you can disagree with (hence the Israel friction). But I think it's naive to write off antisemitism with him as a distant fringe matter.

Jan 22, 2019

If the reason is secrecy -- whether it's competitive/trade reasons; to discourage poaching; or personal safety -- I don't understand what the point of even maintaining a LinkedIn profile is at all. So it always just looks silly to me.

Jan 23, 2019

I would think that a lot of people use LinkedIn as an online rolodex because when you meet people and want to stay connected, it's so much easier to just add on LinkedIn than having your assistant input their info from their business card and then confirming the info on an ongoing basis. One of my partner still has his assistant call and confirm every single contact he has on a yearly basis to ensure they don't go stale and it drives the entire office crazy!!! My profile hardly has any info on it and I can't say that I really care, but I really value the direct connection LinkedIn gives me to practically everyone I have done business with over the last 10+ years.

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Jan 23, 2019

I know for Elliott, they do that for security reasons, like if all the third world countries they vultured and litigated want reconciliation.

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Jan 24, 2019

I do know 1-2 Elliott guys that do the NY based hf thing on linkedin

Jan 24, 2019
John Tuld:

Hi all

I have perused many profiles who don't list an actual employer - rather they enter "New York based Hedge Fund" for example. Why is this? Do some funds not allow employees to advertise that they work there and if so, why? I would hazard a guess it would be concerns of poaching?

Thanks

I'll take my time and write a long answer for this later on today or tomorrow.
As a short answer: it has all to do with privacy.

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Jan 24, 2019
Jan 25, 2019

"Work is the curse of the drinking classes" - Oscar Wilde

Jan 25, 2019