Sluts vs. Serious Relationships
I have slept with five different girls in the last year, most of which can be categorized as “some slut I met at a party.” I expect the number of girls I sleep with on a yearly basis to increase exponentially once I reach legal drinking age, and I expect another exponential increase when I start making enough money to afford high-end prostitutes. The problem is I can not figure out if this is the way I want to live my life. Sure having sex with multiple girls is always fun, but there are also some benefits that come from a serious relationship. Let's look at the pros and cons of each situation to draw a valid conclusion.
Sluts
Pros:
- Having sex with multiple women is fun.
- Kinkier sex.
- You pretend to care about their opinions if you are in a good mood, but in actuality you don't have to pretend to care, if you don't really care. Sluts are expendable, too much time and frustration on one slut is an indication that it is time to move on.
- You are free to do whatever you want, whenever you want. There is no nagging woman to tell you that it's wrong to go out drinking until 5:00AM with your buddies on a weekday.
Cons:
- The risk of contracting a venereal disease.
Serious Relationships
Pros:
- No more “game” is necessary to engage in intercourse. You are free to eat like a pig, drink like a fish, smoke like a chimney, and pick up your date in a pair of sweatpants.
- You have someone to cook and clean.
- It is nice to think that someone actually cares about you.
Cons:
- Your freedom is gone.
- Your paycheck seems to not go as far as it used to.
- In the event you are foolish enough to get married, it is a likely possibility that the marriage will end in divorce. Half of everything you spent your whole life achieving now goes to your ex-wife, so she can buy all sorts of neat stuff for the 22 year old stud she left you for.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm leaning towards spending my whole life going from one meaningless relationship to the next. I'd rather deal with a herpes outbreak a couple times a year, than have a serious relationship slowly, but surely suck the life out of me.
What do you monkeys think?
Banging hoes is like eating Chinese food. Delicious and a great idea at the moment, but you get sick of it fast.
Crush box while your young, eventually it will get a little old. Not saying get married, but hunting for sex every day gets annoying. Sometimes it's nice to have cows on the farm vs always hunting in the wild.
Moooo
sluts before 30
steady relationship after
I'll second these two opinions.
Agree. I almost did it in college when I was desperate but my morals trumped my dick. I'm fucking thankful I didn't revert to paying for sex.
Also, I just had a chat with a friend of mine. Before you get married or start living with someone, talk to a good lawyer to see how to you can protect your assets if you're concerned about it.
This was actually fairly entertaining to read. However, I will tell you 2 things that I found to help me out a lot in making the decision you are currently proposing (yea, I've been drinking so what?). First, if you're going to get married, marry rich. Or at the very least marry a girl who is able to led a decent lifestyle without your paycheck (read: she has a good job of her own.) Second, what mama don't know, won't hurt her.
top post is full of stereotypes/things i thought when i was 14 too, i smell a virgin
i got douche chills reading this thread
paying for sex is pretty fucking lame...
and proudly declaring your intention to do so is pretty pathetic.
For help with option #1 please consult the following:
http://www.broslikethissite.com/2011/01/149-knowing-when-girl-is-slut.h…
I think it comes down to whether you want kids or not.
If you want kids, a long term deal is in your future... otherwise, have as much fun as you want.
thanks for the monkey shit.
MBP... unless your Charlie Sheen... I mean, have you seen the girls he's paid to sleep with him. Then it's fine.
A lot of wealthy people have told me that a pre-nup is not a guarantee, and a good divorce attorney will find loopholes in the pre-nup.
As far as paying for sex goes. I have never paid for sex, and refuse to do so until I can afford to buy the very best. My intention to pay for sex in the future is not out of desperation, it is simply the thought process of a nymphomaniac. I can get laid without paying for it, but two girls are better than one. In fact, why stop at two?
How old are you mike
pay for sex the legal way, go to bars and spend like a greek
wow, 5 pieces of monkey shit for saying that paying for sex is lame....
you are 18, how the hell would you know? and i can assure you its not. we like to talk about hookers and blow, but i dont know a single person who has paid for sex (or wants to) or a single person who does coke on a regular basis.
Cnbc, Dirty money series The business of high end prostitution. watch it come back here and think of what kind of forum you are on.
Here is the link: http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232/?video=1183761885&play=1
MBP, you'll get no shit slung by me... unless that's your thing, when I can add another couple of pieces to your total if you'd like.
Mike, that it may be, but that's all about your view on the matter. Some people are fine with it, while others aren't. At the end of the day, it's a matter of whether you are either 1) Are fine with paying for sex if you aren't in a relationship or 2) Cool with committing Adultery if you are married/cheating if you are in a relationship.
And for the record, it doesn't matter who you are and what kind of a relationship you are involved in... either way you're paying. Just take a cue from the master:
Man... Butters is so right...
What if your girl says no prenup? because it is saying "we will probably get divorced" then what do you do?
if thats too harsh just drop "I just wanna make sure you dont love me for the money on her". even chicks cant talk themselfs out of that one.
i agree with this, anyone with any tangible wealth should get a pre-nup nowadays.
You guys are gonna love my post for tomorrow.
Never trust anything that bleeds for a week and doesn't die.
To the guy who said paying for sex is lame, probably has not hit his 30s, probably doesnt work more than 40 hours a week, and has never been in relationships where you realize that finding the "right one" is akin to hitting the lottery. It just doesn't happen...
Have I paid for sex? You bet your a! Why? Because when I get off work on the occasional Friday, somewhere between the hours of 9-10pm if I'm lucky, I want a drink; with friends preferrably, and a good burger from some crappy a diner. After I fill my belly and get sh**faced, I wanna go back to my loft and tell some paid slut that for the next couple of hours, I want her grabbing her ankles while I take turns alternating between the top and bottom of her "GW Bridge" till Spongebob Squarepants comes on Saturday morning cartoons...
Worried about VD? Don't pick up detritus on corners in the Bronx or anywhere else for that manner. Find a madam or agency that understands that repeat business is what they want so if you contract anything, they lose a potential repeat client...
That is why you pay for sex, "grasshopper." Because if I can read it on the internet, read it in a book, or see it on a porn flick, the prostitute will oblige my creativity and simply charge a small fee. Sure there are Friday's that I just hang out with friends and bang the occasional bar chick pickup. But the likelihood of getting a great lay with some arbitrary twat you pick up at a bar? Next to none. You get missionary, doggy, (jackhammer if you're lucky) "frontdoor only", and potential baggage. Paying for a service to get EXACTLY what I want? You can't put a price on that.
Actually dude, I'm very happily married, and I can tell you that this whole notion that the 'right' person is near impossible to find is bullshit. If you convince yourself of that, you will never try hard enough in a relationship to make it work. You'll hit roadblocks in every relationship, but if you just dismiss it and say "she wasn't the right one I guess.." then your statement becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
I get that you are insanely overworked and undersexed or whatever, but at least admit that under normal circumstances, paying for sex is pretty lame.
Paying for sex isn't for me, but I can see why some people do it. To each their own and I think it's pointless to argue the point with vadremc because you won't change his thinking.
On the other hand, I do think it's tough to find that 'right' person. No, I don't believe in the concept of soulmates or THE one, because that, in my mind, is just the construction of too many fairy tales and romantic comedies. What if your "one" lives in bumfuck, Mongolia... is 'fate' supposed to bring you together? I know I'm going off on a wild tangent here. The point is, I think most of us can spend our lives and be happy with a reasonable number of people.
But the thing is, it's difficult to find those people. Think about it: really desirable girls (I'm not talking just looks-wise) will be pursued by many, many attractive guys (again, not just looks but from a dating perspective) and they'll often be in relationships. The odds of you meeting and connecting with a single girl that you could end up with long-term are pretty slim, especially in a city like New York, where the people in your life seem to turn over at a very high rate.
Then again, who knows? Maybe I'm just being a pessimist.
AWM,
I can answer both of those questions in one fell swoop. You never met my Former Roommate, may he rot in hell for all eternity that worthless sack of shit, but he's regularly blew his money on hookers and blow when he was living with me. I remember one time coming back to the apartment on a Saturday night for a quiet night in and he and 2 of his friends were in the living room doing lines on the coffee table. There were a number of nights where I would see him come home on the weekends looking coked up and he had a coke mirror in his room. In fact, the worst part was that he'd invite his dealer over and then bitch when I told them to get the fuck out of my place. Legally, I was fucked if anything happened, so I was pissed whenever the blow came out. Although, I will say this... Sluts do love their blow. I don't know why, but they do.
As to the hookers, I caught him a few times, but I'm going to tell the story of the first time, as I was not happy. The first time he did it that I was aware of, he called a hooker over at 3 am to our apartment. The only reason why I know this was the case was because the doorbell was rung at 3:30, waking my ass up. I thought it was a fluke, but he came out and said not to worry as he had some company coming over. In walks an asian hooker (I kid you not... she looked like she was a cheap hooker - stripper boots, short skirt and cheap stripper perfume) and says "You never said it was two of you." I look at my roommate and tell him to throw her out. He tells me no and that he can do it, so I tell him if he does, I'll call the cops. She hears this and say, I'll go and I'm left to deal with an angry roommate. Needless to say the ensuing few hours were not fun, as he tried to "make me pay" for this. He refused to stop knocking on my door, being loud and obnoxious and just a general asshat. So... I did what any sane person would do at 4AM. I made coffee and played video games until 6:30 when I went to work.
Yeah... fun stuff...
Paying for ass is sick, but banging women who are near blacked out is kosher?
Like many of you, I want to avoid divorce at all costs; not just because of the monetary hit, but because of the rest of the shit that comes with it. My parents are thankfully still together, but I've seen several friends' parents go through the process and it's really quite miserable.
To add to that, I also don't make myself very dateable. I have crazy hours at work, I strongly value my independence, I love to get smashed and party like I'm still in college, I don't give girls much daytime attention and I don't put up with any shit that comes from them; I figure if she's being difficult after a hookup or two, it's only going to get much worse in the long run and I just ignore her and move on to the next one. Even with all that, I've somehow managed to squeeze in two strong relationships that both lasted over a year.
I love being single. I love the chase--sometimes it's more fun than the actual sex. And despite what everyone says about getting laid being easiest in college, I've found New York to be even easier. In college, girls often worry about developing slutty reputations, having their friends or boyfriends find out, losing credibility, etc and won't sleep with you if they have any doubts. New York solves all of that. Nobody has to know anything. I'm just a random guy and she's a random girl and we can have sex and never see each other again. Sure, my friends will know the details, but she can control who finds out on her end. Out-of-towners are even easier. To top it off, you have so many gorgeous girls in this city and an endless supply of great places to go to, no matter what mood you're in/what your scene is. Sure, sometimes you'll go an entire weekend or maybe two and strike out every night. It happens. There will be other weeks where you go 2/2 or 3/3. That happens as well. So yes, it's a bit of a rollercoaster, but if you can get a great pipeline going, you rarely have to decide which porn site to watch at 4am.
The thing is, as much fun as I have being single, I'd still prefer to be in a relationship. By that, I mean a GREAT relationship. I'm really picky when it comes to letting a girl in and giving a relationship a shot, but that's because I'd rather be single than have some mediocre connection. I'm young, but if I meet a girl that blows me away, I'd be happy settling down with her. I have the luxury of giving up a year or two of my life if it doesn't ultimately work out and I can still go back to the party lifestyle after without looking like a creep. But at the same time, if it DOES work out, all the better. It's extremely difficult for me to find someone I feel like I want to be with for the long-term (I'm not even talking marriage, just a serious relationship) and if/when she does come along, I'll make every effort to make it work. To each their own and you may disagree with me, but I think it's extremely immature to think that banging hot girls is all there is to life and especially immature/selfish if you plan on continuing to do so once you're in a serious relationship or married. When I have a girlfriend, I'm loyal (sure, I'll go out and flirt, etc, but let's be honest, who doesn't?) and do my best to be a good boyfriend. I'll never be a pushover, but I won't be a stubborn dick either. Why would I be in a relationship if I didn't want to make it work?
The problem with this mentality is that a quality girl does't go for dudes that are used to banging three different girls in a week. It can only stay anonymous for so long. Would you date a chick that let three different guys bang her in a week?
When my ex met me, she immediately wrote me off because of my promiscuity. I could see that off the bat, but I kept in touch with her because she was a legitimately cool girl and, admittedly, I was extremely attracted to her. We would bbm often, do random things together on weekends, but I never made a move. I could see that she was attracted to me as well, but I stayed patient. A few weeks in, we had our first real date, went back to her place, and the rest was history. Months later, when I asked her why she started liking me in the first place, one of the things she mentioned was appreciating that I was a challenge. When I did finally make my move, she knew that I wasn't just trying to get her into bed, but that I actually felt something for her and wanted to make it work. Also, she felt special because I don't normally let girls in until they really deserve it, which she did. And she could really see that.
Sleeping with a lot of girls can scream immaturity and more serious girls will sometimes write you off for it. But if you show them that you have a deeper side to you and the ability to commit, they'll be doubly attracted--both for the social capital you create by showing them that other girls want you and for being a challenge.
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Not sure how true this is.
I think coke is fairly common. Buying hookers is not. If you cannot get laid in NYC you really need to get some help. Paying for whores is a last ditch effort. Go sign up for hot or not or go troll craigslist.
bottle whores are the same as prostitutes except free ;)
I really can't believe that paying for ass got so much hate on this site. Any guy buying Prada shoes for his GF is paying for the box, just in shoes instead of greenbacks. Same difference.
Any girl that needs shoes to be enticed into screwing her boyfriend is not worth dating. Maybe I live in an alternative universe, but most normal couples i know don't buy each other crap in the hopes of having sex in return. If this is the case, then either the dude is crap in bed or should not be dating the girl in the first place.
I regret reading this thread.
WHY CANT I BE GAY?!!!!!!
Sure dude, it is called a trophy wife/girlfriend. No one explicitly says "buy me shoes and I will blow you". but there are plenty of women who fuck guys who have a good amount of money.
I will be painfully literal from now on.
I love that some bitter dude is out there throwing monkey shiz at anyone that posts marginally non-db stuff regarding relationships.
Being a misogynistic douche bag is cool when you are in a frat, but in the real world you just look like an ass and will probs end up with some gold digging whore of a wife. I love how treating woman with respect gets you railed against on this forum. It just shows the immaturity level.
Good luck settling down with a quality chick after she finds out you slept with hookers.
...and funnily enough there seems to be a correlation between those same douchebags compaining about gold-diggers. You reap what you sow, eh?
^Grenade Whistle!!!!!! Guess what playa, nice guys finish last. Go take your chivalry home and kiss your grenade on the cheek, hope she doesnt blow up.
The situation has love for all types of woman, but if the bitch is a grenade, we throw the fucken stiff arm and demoralize that hoe.
My philosophy is this, if your trying to smash, treat her like a ho. But if you are trying to settle down with a dime, switch your game up and show some respect. No quality chick will know your past, unless you tell her. My girl still thinks ive been with only three girls. pshhh
out of curiosity does anyone know the ideal jurisdiction to marry/prenup in from a legal point of view? I know the UK is terrible and lawless, the US doesnt sound too ideal either any other thoughts?
UK is awful. USA is better but pre-nups are not by any means concrete safe guards against her rinsing you for everything you are worth. Judges often rule in favor of the chick, though it depends on what breaks off the marriage. If the guy is caught cheating etc then it is far more likely to go in her favour.
Here's my question about pre-nups...
What is a fair thing to put in a pre-nup? My brother's friend just proposed to a girl he's been dating for like 7 years, and he's 29 now. He is now a PM at a top HF and is easily making 7 figures in good years. I wouldn't be surprised if he's worth like 20MM by 40. What is a fair pre-nup for his fiancee? I mean, she started dating the guy well before either of them knew he was going to be loaded. Would you say that maybe a pre-nup isn't necessary in this case?
Also for the record, I did not sign a pre-nup and I'm not worried about it at all. I'm fairly confident that I'll be quite rich, and my wife's earning potential is at the most 60K a year (she wants to go into non profit work).
What doesn't make sense about it? Sure he had a good job at 22 the way I have a god job right now, and sure he was extremely ambitious and definitely smart. But he wasn't already rich, and there was no way to know for sure that he was going to be loaded beyond belief.
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Ok the Pymp hating is really getting retarded now. Easy with the shit slinging you fucker...
After reading where this has digressed to, I'm going to refer to my quote of Butters and suggest that the OP take it to heart.
Let this be a lesson to you OP. Crush bitches, but keep your mouth shut. Too many player haters out there in the game.
Did you just say player haters? Are you serious?
if you stick it in her pooper does that make you super duper, or does it make your brown with a frown, REMEMBER put it in a wrapper before you attack her, DON'T BE A FOOL VOLCANIZE YOUR TOOL!!
in conclusion
If you slip between her thighs, be sure to condomize.
AMW, why you hatin' on me. Stop sweating the game brah.
Pymp, you are making me want to go to China. Does this apply to Taiwan also lol
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I know people who bang hookers and they don't work on Wall Street. It isn't that big a deal.
Dude, crushing bitches is not something you can paint by numbers with. Go out, drink beer, be loud, point at women and tell them to come near you, hop around like a bunny and bam, you will get laid.
I just gave you a rough outline. Ad lib from there.
I would imagine wallstreeters that partake would chose oxys and hydros over coke. A lot of it is mindnumbing work, you dont need to be all hyper and social for it.
I really don't get how you can pull banking hours while on coke O.o
Ant, while crushing bitches is all fun and games, I'm going to refer everyone here to the patron saint of philandering... Charlie Sheen, who after a 36 Hour bender that included visits from two porn stars and was in possession of a briefcase full of bricks of cocaine, is now in the hospital for a hernia.
If that doesn't explain how people can work with hookers and blow, I don't know what does.
Here's a good slaying trick - bring a hot wingwoman. Not just fuckable hot, but out of your league hot, someone who is friends with you because she gets whatever favors from you and you dont ever cross the line by trying to sleep with her. You will pick up girls way hotter than you could ever pick up on your own, and they will jump all over you just to pull themselves up to your wingwoman's level , since in their minds they are fucking this super hot girl's man, so they win. Also they feel like they don't have to worry about u being some creepy psycho ax murderer or a nasty STD trap, and there's no down side to f-ing you.
Oh, I am going to hell for this one...
Unlike the other tards here... briliant advice.
Dude, Charlie is a perfect example of what happens when you don't know when to bail out of the game. Eventually women become an addiction, just like drugs.
Bricks of Coke! Jesus, and you know it is legit stuff, no crappy powder for Charlie!
OP, you should definitely stick to hookers. Didn't you ever read 'More Sex is Safer Sex'? Gosh the level of illiteracy on these boards is mind boggling. def. hookers.. as expensive as you can go. You should try to get a banking placement somewhere in Europe. Idk about UK. But definitely prostitution is legal on the Continent. Registered prostitutes in Europe have regular STD check-ups so you should be safe. .
Key word. should.
this thread is nuts
I'd just like to point out that not girlfriends can cook and clean, so that's one less pro for OP there in the relationship section. Maybe OP should stick to sluts, sounds like they suit you pretty well.
Do you have a phobia with serious relationships?
Just curious. Why do you hate it so much? Have you ever been truly in love?
I'm not even gonna finish reading this thread. Whatever happened to decent human beings in normal relationships? You guys treat sex like it's no big deal, like going for a freakin' walk in the park.
Why not just marry a chick you love and do the swingers thing on the side from time to time? Variety is the spice of life, not the bread and butter, so this arrangement could work out if you discuss it early in a relationship.
I think I'm misunderstanding some of the OP's initial argument. Since when do 18 year olds worry about marriage/paycheck money for broads?
Mike, the sooner you snap out of that loser mindset, the better it will be for you. Maybe she rejected you because you came on too strong, maybe her parents didn't let her date, maybe she was a lesbian, maybe she was in love with someone else, maybe she got raped by her uncle who looked like you; maybe she wanted you to try again, maybe she just started her period and was a raging bitch because of PMS; the point is YOU tried to internalize her rejection and you are letting it affect your life many years later.
That was only the cause for the onset of my current state of mind. After having sex with a few women, I've come to realize that life is much more fun when you think with your penis, instead of your brain.
How could you compare? From what I understand, you haven't yet had a chance to think with your brain.
Dp
Woah mike, you just got bitch slapped hard.
I really don't have time to argue about who I did, or didn't sleep with on an anonymous forum.
But seriously Mike, my advice to you is snap out of loser mentality while you are still young, because it will only perpetuate itself.
If you want to go around and charm broads - do it, but that's not what's happening in your case. You need to start being honest with yourself and figuring out what is it that you truly want
This thread was about what decisions I should make going forward and I have heard many interesting opinions, along with a ton of monkey shit thrown at me.
I could have had sex with more than 5 girls in the last year, if I was willing to pork fat girls, and I agree my game has room for improvement, but that is not the subject of this thread.
Sometimes I contemplate never getting married.
I can't marry or have a serious relationship with a moneyed girl of equal status while working in IB because she will definitely be a whiney bitch and I'd rather die than have a nagging bitch hanging around.
I cant marry or have a serious relationship with an average or poor girl while working in IB because she'll be too busy waiting for bonus season to pay attention to my needs... if we do get married, Im sure she'll screw me over if I hit partner (stupid divorce)
Having kids is a huge responsibility. She will want to have kids. But you (IBer) wont have time to see them or understand them. You wont know much about him/her. Its sad. I'd rather not have a kid than have one lodling around that I barely know and not really play a big and beneficial role in raising him/her.
sigh...Im confused
Konig, whats this shit that SA is overstating their reserves by 40%? When are you guys going to get on board with taking out Julian.
lol random
Its bullshit bro. I explained it on the thread. Its just ONE random diplomat who BELIEVES Saudi Arabia is overstating it by 40%. No factual data, no scientific explanation, nothing. In fact, one of the points that he uses to support his false claim is that Saudi Arabia doesnt want to increase production because supply is low... Al-Naimi is going to publicly announce the increased production numbers in the next OPEC meeting. BUNKED.
When I first read this thread, I thought it would get about 4 replies.
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