The Banker's Guide to Watches

Slow bank holiday night, so I figured I would go into this. After having followed watch brand for some years and having had countless conversation with fellow consultants and banking friends about why you don't spend your first bonus on a fucking mixed steel-gold submariner, I figured a brief guide about watches may help.

DISCLAIMER: I know that a large majority of people won't care and neither will the large majority of co-workers, but some might and looking like a knob to those who cares is the worst way to start a career. I also want to state that these watches are my personal preference - this is in no way an objective review so please avoid the Monkey Shit for having left out your favourite Tissot model.

Whilst some of you may have read the GSElevator guide to watches on Wall Street, I think it does a poor job and offers the same insight into watches as someone who went on the Richemont Group's website for the first time and memorised some names. Regardless, here goes:

Intern

You're tucked away at the back of the office and the only people you see are your fellow interns and the raging face of associates and VPs as they shit down your neck for having put an extra comma on slide 37 of 80. Your salary isn't bad, but you can't exactly go eating lobster and caviar whenever you please. You've spent the last 12 hours building a model and aligning logos on a deck you'll never see again and are counting the minutes until the clock strikes 2am and you can finally go home for those well deserved 3-4 hours of nightmare-fuelled sleep. You need something that clearly shows the fading seconds.

Top Recommendations

Oris Divers Sixty-Five (~$2000): neat, simple, small and under the radar whilst maintaining good visibility and a clean dial.

You can buy it on authenticwatches.com.




Tudor Black Bay 36mm (~$2700): does it slightly look like Rolex's explorer? yes. Is it better? yes. As above, it's slim and near without attracting too much attention but still has the quality and durability of a watch crafted by the Rolex group.

You can buy it here from Crown and Caliber.



Baume et Mercier Classima (~$1000): subtle and elegant. Unknown to most and still a phenomenal timepiece

You can buy it here at the company webiste.

Analysts

You got the offer, accepted it and now can do endure the daily barraging on a full time basis. Yet, it feels different to know someone out there looked past the hungover mornings during the internship, the awkward attempted hookups with the smoke show intern and the constant fuck ups to give you an offer. You feel proud, confused and scared at the same time. You've already endured 3 months of this so you have an idea of how things work, plus you'll get to go Sean Penn on some interns in a few months. Still, you're mostly at your desk but can carry yourself with a bit more confidence than you did during the summer. Go on. Treat yourself.

Top Recommendations


Rolex Datejust Stainless Steel (~$7800): finally, you can get a Rolex. To those asking 'when the fuck can I buy a submariner?' the answer is whenever - just never wear it to the office. This is a personal taste, but with the plethora of models Rolex offers, the best suit watch has to be the datejust. Simple and elegant, yet a bit more noticeable without the big 'fuck you' bezel of the submariner.

You can buy it here on Amazon.



Zenith Elite Chrono (~$7300): you're not coach Carter running suicides at Richmond High so the chrono will not be of practical use, yet it fits perfectly with the design of the watch particularly the black dial with the black leather strap.

You can buy it here on PrestigeTime.



Omega De Ville (~$3300): similar to the Zenith mentioned above, the simple dial and design allows it to blend in with formal suits perfectly. Some may prefer better known Omegas (speedmaster, seamaster etc) but again, I wouldn't wear them with a suit.

You can buy the watch here on Jomashop.

Associate

You officially have errand boys! Slowly rising up the ranks, grinding away hard as always and now allowed to look at clients in the face, this is your time to shine. Salary gets bigger, bonus gets bigger, office hours shrink (slightly) and more people start to notice you. Why? You have responsibility. You're teaching the apes below you simple tasks and if they fuck up, as much as you can shit on them later, you'll be shit on first. Make sure you can fit the big boy pants with a big boy watch. A word of caution here. Since you'll have pretty good money at this stage, it's easy to fall into temptation and go full Lil Wayne with a shit flashy watch. Do the research, ask friends. At this budget, there are plenty of watches you can buy.

Top Recommendations:


Blancpain Villeret (~$14000): this is a family of Blancpain models and variants exist discontinued on the 2nd hand market or brand new. Either way, this watch shows fellow watch enthusiasts you certainly have taste and if you don't care what others think, enjoy the fact you're wearing a phenomenal watch from one of the oldest brands in the world

You can buy this watch here on Jomashop and learn more about the brand on the company website.



Breguet Classic (~$13000): again, a family of models and again a simple yet elegant piece. For classic watches around this budget, Breguet and Blancpain go head to head so either way, you're making a good decision.

You can purchase this watch on Jomashop.



Rolex Cellini Date in White Gold (~$17500): a lot of people have mixed feelings about Cellini's and yet they remain a classic. It may be strange to consider having a gold watch but the case is slim and the white gold is subtle, not flashy.

You can buy this watch here on World's Best.

Vice President

You're making real money, you're managing teams. Time to get a man's watch. It is at this point in the rankings that the GS Elevator article mentions the rule that you can wear a Daytona only from VP level up. Is this true? No clue. Either way, if it is then go out and get a steel one to join the thousands of others who have no idea what to do with $15000. Great watch by all accounts, just simple. You can do better.

Top Recommendations:


Vacheron Constantin Patrimony (~$25000): This is a big purchase. Again, this is a family of models and the lower end models cost around this much. You're wearing one of the brands that brought Swiss watchmaking to life on an international level. It's time to start looking at the big brands, but the non-traditional models.

You can buy this watch on the company website.



Jaeger-LeCoultre Geophysic Universal Time Stainless Steel (~$14000): similar price to associate watches, but the importance is elevated. The new geophysic movement add additional accuracy to the watch and having the global timezones helps coordinate with colleagues at the office or when abroad.

You can purchase this watch on the company website.



Piaget Altipiano White Gold (~$20000): the simple time-only version is by far the most elegant. Great piece.

You can buy the watch on the company website.

Director

You're almost at the top, you're regularly meeting clients and you have more people to shit on/look after. By this point a lot of colleagues you had a few years ago have go off to do other things but you are resilient. You know this is for you and you're so close to becoming a rain maker, you want to start feeling like one.

Top Recommendations:


Audemars Piguet Jules Audemars Extra Thin White Gold (~$31500): not the first model that comes to mind when you think AP, but it does have a certain class and elegance to it. Small, subtle yet imposing.

You can buy this watch on Tourneau.



Patek Philippe Calatrava 5119G (~$22500): your first Patek. This is a special moment; not everyone deserves a Patek. Start with something small as an introduction to the family.

You can buy the watch on the Lunns webiste.



A. Lange & Söhne Saxonia (~$21500): many may not know this brand but for those who do, this is it. Although this may not be the top model, you're on a steady path there.

You can learn more about this watch on the company website.

Managing Director

Yo've done it. You're at the top after years of hard work and dedication. You're officially a rainmaker, bringing in so much money that the bank has started working for you as a platform for you to conduct business. You're making so much money you've stopped giving a shit. So fuck it, go nuts.

Top Recommendations:


A. Lange & Söhne Langematik Perpetual (~$103500): a beast of of watch, yet classy. Top shelf by Lange.

You can buy this watch on Chrono24.



Patek Philippe Grand Complication 5159G (~$91000): one of the best pieces by Patek. Sure, you can also get a Nautilus but it has become a (relatively) common piece like the Daytona and Submariner. Go for something special.

You can purchase this watch on Chrono24.



Vacheron Constantin Métiers d'Art The Legend of the Chinese Zodiac (~$125000): the movement, the craftsmanship and the attention to detail make this an amazing piece. Good luck finding one, particularly with your birth year.

You can learn more about the watch on the company website.

Partner

By this point, you really don't care. Buy a watch or not. It won't make a difference; you're the boss.

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Controversial
Oct 21, 2019 - 9:03am

How about we stop preaching Interns and Analysts that it's the right thing to spend their hard-earned money on materialistic shit? What's wrong with a Xiaomi Mi Band 3 that has a ticket price of $30 that does much more than the most expensive watch can do.

This kind of finance bro culture is eroding, and it drove away many bright people who -like clients for that matter- couldn't give a shit less about what kind of watch you're wearing. These guys went to tech and are now banking more than most people here, in their $50 outfits.

May 30, 2018 - 4:01am

I have never really been much of a watch guy, but want to buy one for an upcoming internship. Since my budget is quite limited, I did some research and ended up liking the Seiko SKX007. Thinking about putting a nato strap on it to make it a bit more unique (the black/grey one seems nice).

Opinions?

May 30, 2018 - 4:24am

SB!!

Four watches that I really like and would add to around analyst level watches are the following:

  • Omega Speadmaster (Moonwatch): simple, lean, beautiful, brilliant 'story' of the watch

  • JLC Reverso: again very simple, cool story (invented for polo players who used to break the glass of the watch while playing), very very classic watch (I know some people hate it - I love it)

  • Glashütte Senator Excellence: simple and elegant watch

  • IWC Portuguese Chronograph: again a nice elegant watch

May 30, 2018 - 4:05pm

I have an Apple watch. It helps me not miss phone calls.

Maybe one day I'll pick up an Omega or Rolex just for shits, but right now not missing phone calls is more functionality than any other watch can give me for a fraction of the price.

Interns buying $2000 watches is stupid as fuck.

Commercial Real Estate Developer

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May 30, 2018 - 7:25pm

Consider a couple of things:

  1. A lot of the $2000 watches can be found 2nd hand for much less
  2. As a European, there is a tradition of buying your son/daughter a serious watch after high school/university. This tradition is much more active in Europe than in the US, hence why a lot of interns in Europe will own a watch of that value.
May 12, 2021 - 5:40am

Upper-middle European Class here, that is completely right but I think nowadays almost no-one gives a shit about the analyst watch, and normally if they give is for a bad reason (no low-key). I think the best is to get a low-key watch. What about Tag Heuer Aquaracer?

Btw for the interns going to the interviews with their fathers watch: Don't do it

Jun 5, 2018 - 7:20pm
CRE:

I have an Apple watch. It helps me not miss phone calls.

Maybe one day I'll pick up an Omega or Rolex just for shits, but right now not missing phone calls is more functionality than any other watch can give me for a fraction of the price.

Interns buying $2000 watches is stupid as fuck.

-Hurt

May 30, 2018 - 4:55pm

you shouldnt be spending more than 10% of your base (after taxes) on a watch imo.

What concert costs 45 cents? 50 Cent feat. Nickelback.

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May 30, 2018 - 5:35pm

First off, love the approach to this guide. Though it's over the top in true WSO fashion, I think it's correct in that a man's watch should match his station. Nobody likes seeing an intern with a Rolex.

The first real watch I bought was an Edox Les Vauberts Day/Date Automatic.

https://www.ashford.com/us/watches/edox/83007-37R-AIR.pid

Retails for 1.5k, but I got it for $300 by carefully monitoring fluctuations in price for about a year and snagging it when several sales were on at once. Fantastic purchase, gets lots of compliments and is a quality-crafted timepiece.

While it is not a brand that a watch connoisseur would immediately recognize, I think the brand's value will only increase in coming years. The company has actually been around since the 1800s, and was purchased/revived in the late 20th century.

Array

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May 31, 2018 - 9:48pm

What about a patek nautilus or Audemar Piguet Royal Oak?
Both seem like pretty good higher end options

You're not really a born and bred, traditional aristocrat if you work hard enough to get into Harvard.- Prospie

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May 31, 2018 - 10:07pm

That's fair, they definitely are a bit common and overdone

You're not really a born and bred, traditional aristocrat if you work hard enough to get into Harvard.- Prospie

Jun 1, 2018 - 1:37pm
G-I the pharma guy:

Both incredible watches but I think both have been 1. overplayed (like the daytona) and 2. don't necessarily belong with a suit. Any serious collector willing to spend a lot of money on watches should have both in his/her collection, but perhaps for less formal occasions.

These are two of the most versatile watches in the market. If you can get your hands on them they go with whatever you want

Jun 1, 2018 - 12:36pm

Should an intern wear one of the Holy Trinity brands (Patek, Vacheron Constantin, AP) because he already owns (bought using earned money in college) or just goes with some plain stuff for safety? I'm always curious as to how associates and VP would see the intern

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Jun 1, 2018 - 12:59pm

Thank you so much! would never want to be 'that kid'

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Jun 6, 2018 - 8:31am

Unfortunately for you, whether true or not, an intern that walks in with a Patek on his wrist, Ferragamo shoes, and a Tom Ford briefcase is going to get branded as a spoiled kid with rich parents who doesn't need the job and is more likely than not to be relatively lazy. You can do great work and overcome the stereotype, but you'll be starting behind your peers in terms of perception.

Bankers LOVE the middle class or poor Midwestern kid story because they think those kids will be resilient grinders and that their story will play well in front of clients. So even if you're self made, you should make sure to dress closer to what an analyst could normally afford than not.

Jun 1, 2018 - 12:44pm

for interns:

been looking for a minimalist low-profile watch (white face, silver trimmings, brown leather band) in the 200-300 price range

settled on Daniel Wellington

just a monkey trying to find his way in the finance jungle
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Jun 1, 2018 - 2:04pm

https://www.citywatches.ca/product/citizen-stilleto-ecodrive-ar3010-65a…

https://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SNKA01K1-Automatic-White-Stainless/dp/B001…SY300_QL70&dpSrc=srch

I would recommend one of these two watches, as I've heard less-than-positive things about those Kickstarter fashion micro-brands like Daniel Wellington, MVMT, Fifth, etc (The main gripe is that they're generally overpriced quartz watches made in China with quality equal-to or less-than Citizen and Seiko watches)

You can buy a brown leather strap for like $15-20 on Amazon too.

Jun 1, 2018 - 12:50pm

I honestly wear Invictas, and Bulovas until I hit a certain level in income/investments.

I contemplated HARD on buying a "plane jane" rolex with no date for $5500 at the Wynn...I just couldnt do it. Then at the other store they tried to sell me a Tudor for $2500 with diamonds, but i figured no one even knew what a Tudor was, so I left with all my money in my pocket.

I will stick with the $200-$1000 range for now.

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Jun 1, 2018 - 1:20pm

Why would you spend that much on a watch? The only thing it does is tell time. And in this case is just to show off your status.

I say buy an apple watch which as ten times the functionality of any of these for a fraction of the price.

Jun 1, 2018 - 3:09pm

Same thing could be said about anything. Why fly business class instead of economy on planes? All they do is get you from A to B. And why spend $500 on a suit? All it does is cover you and does the same job as a $100 suit.

Watch enthusiasts don't look at watches as a tool to tell the time. That's perhaps 10% of what they seek. You look for brands with a history, the look, the quality, durability (most solid watches last 20-30 years if taken care of) and the handcrafted work. This last one doesn't apply to some of the mass market brands like rolex and omega but applies to others like A. Lange & Sohne, Patek Philippe and Vacheron Constantin. Plenty of other brands which sell lower price watches are also like this.

Jun 1, 2018 - 1:40pm

I'd say that watch value should match income.

Less Than $150,000

Spend ~ $3000-$4000 or less on a watch. Stick to Tudor, Omega, Nomos, Seiko, maybe a Rolex. Some of the brands mentioned will have to be vintage or used, but still, if you're going to spend money, do so on legitimate companies and watches. Wearing any of those watches will respectfully say that you know what you're doing, but you're not over the top.

Less Than $70,000. At this point, I would keep it simple. Probably stick to cheaper watches like lower end Seikos (which are still amazing btw).

Lastly, don't spend money on a watch just because you can. Anybody who knows about watches that ends up talking to you about your wrist watch will tell right away if you're a noob who bought it for the sake of attention. Buy what you can actually talk about.

Jun 1, 2018 - 2:39pm

The big fuck you bezel of the submariner is the perfect way to describe it

Dayman?
Jun 11, 2018 - 1:48pm

Where is the Rolex Daytona? It's sitting on the wrist of half the women in Miami. It's a played out, oversaturated model that has no practicality in the banking world unless you're timing interns getting coffee or how long it takes your MD to email back "thx".

Jun 1, 2018 - 5:18pm

I wear a smartwatch with a rotation of faces that I designed and programmed myself. Then again, I'm just a BO monkey s it's not like anyone is judging my wristwear.

Also, OP, it's A. Lange & Söhne, mit umlaut; Mr. Lange had multiple sons. I may not be able to afford one of those, but I can pronounce it!

Jun 1, 2018 - 6:35pm

For those on a budget, here are a few sub-$1k automatic watches that most business people would respect off the top of my head:

Tissot Visodate

Seiko Cocktail Time

Hamilton Jazzmaster

Glycine pops up a lot on Massdrop as well around the same price point.

I think these all run around $3-500. If you're really on a budget but want a decent automatic, go with seiko.

Jun 2, 2018 - 7:11am

Love this thread, but not realistic at all.

My unqualified, but more realistic advice is:

Intern: Casio, Hugo Boss, Tommy Hilfiger, Timex, (nothing really more than 300). You could also go for a clean smartwatch, just make sure it's not actually delivering any notifications because you almost certainly don't have any important notifications (meme tagging aside). Don't buy a fuckin Dan Wellington, every watch in this price range costs $2 to produce, don't buy the one that has the least brand value behind it.

Analyst: Tissot/Seiko/Perhaps move up to something with an ETA movement in it - but definitely not much point blowing more than like 1.5K

Late stage Analyst/Associate something like an entry level IWC/Rolex/Breitling/Nomos/Glasshutte. Would tend to still go for Pilot watches, metal wrist straps and Rollys attract a bit of attention and sometimes you can rub a simple minded client the wrong way if they think you're trying to flex on them.

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Jun 2, 2018 - 12:36pm

Agreed with this post.

Wearing something beyond your means / before you've had a few bonuses and proven yourself just puts a target on your back for others to make assumptions about you, like "entitled rich kid" or "poser". Very little upside to wearing an expensive watch too early ("oh, nice watch") vs significant downside, particularly if you're still learning the ropes ("why the hell is this kid wearing a $5k watch when he's still fucking up on my pitches").

Interns/jr Analysts frankly shouldn't go past $1k. Frankly, they can probably look at $400-700 range. For those I would suggest Seiko (Japan-versions, not like Seiko 5's, but check out seiyajapan which has things like the skx007 (good entry level diver which is

Jul 31, 2019 - 10:02pm
lowfrequency:

Don't buy a fuckin Dan Wellington, every watch in this price range costs $2 to produce, don't buy the one that has the least brand value behind it.

Yes! Preach!

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Jun 3, 2018 - 11:28am

Assuming you are a killer MD with an after tax bonus of around 300K, you are an idiot for buying once of those watches. To be frank, watches are pretty stupid in a practical sense, are not comfortable, and only matter when you are with prestige oriented annoying people who stare it for more than 30 seconds to figure out the brand because they can't tell the difference between a 3K and 15K watch. Buy a Nice Omega or Rollie and take the extra 95K to retire a year earlier where you can try and retain some of the years you lost sucking down cocktails with clients after consecutive nights of 3 hours of sleep with no exercise.

Jun 3, 2018 - 12:03pm

As an intern there's little to no chance I'm shelling out over $1k on a watch (at least not until the end of the summer). I really do love watches but as a 21 y/o I think most of us are not quite "watch enthusiasts" yet (or have the financial means to be one).

A couple awesome intern level watches (I think sub-$1k):

  • Caravelle
  • Tissot (someone mentioned this, check Jomashop)
  • Citizen
  • Vincero
  • Shinola
  • Larsson & Jennings
  • Filippo Loretti
  • Godfrey (similar to DW)
  • Vodrich
  • Baogela
  • Corniche

Agree w/ the DW poster above, those watches are subpar for what you pay for (which is why I bought a Godfrey for less than $100 that looks the EXACT same).

Sorry for not listing all the links, I just didn't have any specific models in mind! You're bound to find a more inexpensive, classy looking watch from some of those brands above if you're not in the $1k+ price club as an intern!

Jun 4, 2018 - 4:16am

Good job on perpetuating the disturbing rhetoric that investment banking is still a man's world. It is frankly ridiculous that you would spend the time and effort to compile this list and not include at least one option per level for the opposite sex in the industry.

Jun 5, 2018 - 4:40pm

I found the price ranges for each IB level ridiculous more than anything (everyone's buying range should be moved down 1-2 spaces, I have yet to see an MD walk around with a $100k watch).

But not having women options listed is not something I would find offensive (speaking as a woman). First off, watch selection for women is pretty dank vs. what's available for men. It's a lot of adding jewels to the bezel and/or dial, which I personally find a bit tacky. Interestingly, a lot of women that like watches (and know watches) actually go for men's models like Rolex subs. Or take fairly masculine looking watches - like Panerai's - and switch out the band for something more colorful (I've seen it with say red leather bands and it looks quite nice). Otherwise, if we're talking more elegant options, it's just usually the smaller version of classics (like smaller sized JLC Reverso's or smaller Cartier Tank's). But buying a women's watch outside of those classics kinda sucks cause the grey market isn't nearly as liquid as the men's market, and the designs, as I mentioned, are a bit tacky / less clean vs the men's models. Or the watch industry assumes women prefer quartz (for convenience/ not needing to reset the watch), which is not necessarily untrue (I'm sure a lot of women don't care about movement and prefer not having to reset the time or whatever), but it's a huge generalization. And I certainly wouldn't pay good money for a quartz model.

In short, it's difficult to suggest women's watches - unless you know the audience (not care about movement? Like flashy bling? Prefer elegance? Prefer good movements and maintain value? Etc)

Jun 8, 2018 - 10:21am

Analysts should also look into the Longines Record or Presence collection - very elegant

Jun 9, 2018 - 1:01am

Step 1. Don't be a tool.
Step 2. Get whatever the fuck you want.

Also, buy used on watchuseek and then dump the watch when you want something new and you'll never really lose money on a watch. :)

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Jul 12, 2018 - 1:36am

Saw the Rolex Daytona White Gold with the black dial (33K) today... unreal

Don't break yourself on the way to making yourself
Sep 24, 2018 - 1:22pm

You should get the ETA versions though - lower cost to service and more importantly, slightly thinner than the inhouse case. For such a thick watch, with those slab sides, it makes a difference.

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Nov 30, 2018 - 4:00pm

Nice! I would also include a vintage Heuer Carrera for motorsport enthusiast Associate maybe?

Carl Van Loon Van Loon & Associates
Dec 7, 2018 - 9:16pm

I think you'd be surprised by how many people opt for sportier watches, the OP is overwhelming dress watch oriented. A lot of rolex wearing people in finance will wear subs, gmts, daytonas. The patek wearing people will rock a nautilus or aquanaut (amazing), and the AP fans will def choose royal oaks over the jules dress watch you've shown. And yea MDs or senior people spending that much on ONE watch is not the norm at all. They will more likely have a collection of several 20-30k range watches that they have bought over the years rather than one 100k + watch

Dec 16, 2018 - 5:54pm

lol

What concert costs 45 cents? 50 Cent feat. Nickelback.

Dec 16, 2018 - 5:56pm

yay. simple and neat case, face, hands, and lettering with a nice leather strap. definitely Yay.

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Dec 16, 2018 - 6:06pm
febreeze:

go big, or go home


Nice watch , looks like James Bond's new watch
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Dec 16, 2018 - 5:59pm

Stowa's movement has been criticized at that price point and it takes months to actually receive the watch. QC has gone way down due to issues trying to scale their business.

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Dec 16, 2018 - 6:00pm
Clever Name:
Stowa's movement has been criticized at that price point and it takes months to actually receive the watch. QC has gone way down due to issues trying to scale their business.

Ah thats unfortunate. I purchased it second hand for $465, hope its okay for the next few years. Good to know though clever. Thanks

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:03pm

Looks good, but i think a black background looks better

Do what you want not what you can!
Dec 16, 2018 - 6:07pm

Yay. It isn't over the top and looks classy.

The Four E's of investment "The greatest Enemies of the Equity investor are Expenses and Emotions."- Warren Buffet
Dec 16, 2018 - 6:08pm

I like it, pretty simple and classy.

XX
Dec 16, 2018 - 6:09pm

A good watch (Originally Posted: 04/27/2018)

Good day, folks,

I hope I'm able to post this message here - I'm in trade finance and wanted to offer a new Rolex submariner for sale. It was bought in Switzerland in Apri 2018. Comes with the box, papers, stickers and the warranty card.

I'm based in London so can demonstrate the time piece in person as well. PM me if you are interested.

Cheers,
Asher

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:11pm

What do you guys think of this watch? (Originally Posted: 06/22/2012)

http://www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-241356-Automatic/dp/B002L2R…

Would you wear this watch to work?

What about as an after work watch?

I'm thinking about getting a new watch with my bonus and was looking for some opinions. I was looking to spend no more than $1000. I'm not crazy big into underlying mechanics but would enjoy a watch that tells time well without too much effort on my part.

I also like really like the black-faced stainless steel rolex submariner (obviously not paying for that but just want to give another data point).

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:15pm

Personally, I would never buy a watch in the $750 - $2,500 price range. Why? The quality in this range is okay for the amount of money you will spend. I'd personally rather have two $400 - $500 than one $1,000 watch because the difference in quality between the two is marginal.

I see the watch you picked out is automatic. Are you looking for automatic or quartz? Let me know and I'll send you a PM with a few watches I think you'd certainly enjoy aesthetically and financially.

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Dec 16, 2018 - 6:18pm

Victorinox watches dont do it for me... though i love their knives!

There are cooler brands out there for that price...
Edox, used ebel, elini, oris, zenith, hamilton, tissot, seiko, bulova accutron, just to name a few...
even Invicta you can easily get a swiss made valjoux 7750 automatic chronograph for under $1000.

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:20pm

Its not really dressy enough man. Same in silver you could get away with but I think that's too sporty for me.

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Dec 16, 2018 - 6:21pm

I think these are good quality watches, but are priced at the upper range of what I think they are worth. I'm not a watch guru, but as someone pointed out, the quality of a $1,000 watch probably isn't going to be any better than that of a well selected $500 watch...because you are getting very similar movements in some cases.

With that said, it is a bit more sporty than most of the folks are going to like here. I actually have a Victorinox and I like it a lot. I wear it everyday and it has held up very well. I get compliments on it fairly often. It was originally priced around $1,000 but I picked it up for about $350. I don't think it's necessarily worth $1,000 so I would have never paid that much but I do think I got a great bargain at $350.

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Dec 16, 2018 - 6:23pm

It looks fine. I am not a huge fan of Tag's, but that looks rather sporty.

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:27pm

Zenith Watch (Originally Posted: 08/02/2007)

Is a Zenith watch pretty acceptable for the work place? Are they good watches? I have a friend whose family is in the jewelry business and said he could get me a Zenith at cost.

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:32pm

Tungsten Watch...Too Flashy (literally)..as in reflective? (Originally Posted: 10/13/2007)

So I have been toying with the idea of getting this Movado watch for a while. It is made out of a substance called Tungsten Carbide. For those of you that are unfamiliar with it, it is perhaps the most scratchproof metal you can get it a watch. I have a ring made out of Tungsten, and you simply cannot scratch it. I have taken a pair of pliers to this thing, and it will dent the tool without leaving a mark on the ring.

I want a watch made out of the same substance because I tend to beat the hell out of my watches. With this watch, it will look brand new even after years of wear. The one problem is that it is VERY reflective. When you clean it, it shines like a mirror. That leads me to the main drawback. I just started work for a hedge fund that is straigt casual all the time. This means the watch will show all day long since I will be rolling short sleeves a lot. Anyone else think this might be just a bit too flashy for a work setting, or am I just being paranoid.

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Dec 16, 2018 - 6:35pm

Personally I think the watch looks very tacky. If you were buying it just for the material, I wouldn't.

Movado is for 70 year old Italians. No offense if there are any 70 year old Italians on the board.

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Dec 16, 2018 - 6:37pm

you've totally pwned me with your arguments - the final nail in my coffin was when you told me to STFU.

Who said anything about the Hublot Big Bang (or any watch for that matter) being overpriced? Oh yes, it was you - maybe someone needs a little self-justification? I don't give two $hits whether you worry about the relative value of the stuff you buy. If you can afford it and it floats your boat then knock yourself out.

What I have an issue with is the portrayal of a watch as a solid investment - they aren't. End of. It would have to be a pretty friggin rare watch, and you'd have to hold onto it for a long time for any significant appreciation. In the meantime, you have the time value of money working against you (sorry), the cost of maintenance, and a cotton wool encased sleeve to make sure it doesn't hit anything.

Yes, there are some very special watches in the world which could be considered "art" but a mass-produced Hublot will not even come close.

The only watch that has consistently had a resale value above retail is the stainless Daytona and that's more to do with a deliberate restriction of supply.

And one final thing, I'm guessing Antiquorum is the same place that was recently busted for colluding with the manufacturers to inflate the perceived second-hand values of their watches?

So, in summary, I'll take the hard way please.

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:40pm

John Mack

Your point about the poor investments of watches is mostly true.

My point was to say that if he wants a Tungsten watch, Hublot Big Bang 'Ice' Bang is a good watch if he's got $13,000. Price is very relative, I agree.

I apologize for saying STFU...

Best of luck,
Net Worth or Nothing

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:43pm

No, I just realized it was pointless, so I deleted my posts.

It's one of those situations where I could have argued for the sake of arguing, but really I could care less about Tungsten watches, Hublot Big Bang watches (overpriced, flashy, too sporty for work), watch appreciation, watch cost/value/price (that could be a great conversation though), arguing for the sake of arguing, et cetera. I just happen to have some knowledge about timepieces.

I recommend www.timezone.com if you have an interest in watches though and especially to the guy who posted.

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:44pm

Cheap Watch (Originally Posted: 01/02/2008)

On another topic some were calling Movado a cheap watch. I have never heard this before. Obviously they are not a watch a VP/D/MD goes out to get but for an Analyst/Young Associate you cannot beat the quality, look, and price (~$2,000). Or am I missing something?

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:50pm
pureinst79:
man you are all so obnoxious and superficial. Movado is a nice watch, they run upwards of 1500. Not everyone wants to drop 5000k on a watch.

Agreed, this is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever seen. If you're a half-way decent banker you could wear a timex and be successful.

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:49pm

Tag Heuer watches are fine, but in my opinion are too sporty for work.

More importantly, one shouldn't be worried about what watch you're wearing to an interview. As long as it's presentable you'll be fine and no one will judge you for it. Trust me, interviewers will know you're still living on a college budget and buying the 'right' watch should be the least of your worries.

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:56pm

A Movado watch is more than fine. I wore a $300 Seiko (costs considerably less than the Movado you described) to four rounds of interviews to my full-time pre-MBA position at a BB. It didn't prevent me from getting the job and I never felt ashamed to wear the watch either.

I think that on a pre-MBA level, those people who get too caught up the value of watches are clearly more preoccupied with style rather than substance, and with charisma rather than character. Wearing a nice watch doesn't define your ability to be successful, or vice versa.

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Dec 16, 2018 - 6:57pm
I think that on a pre-MBA level, those people who get too caught up the value of watches are clearly more preoccupied with style rather than substance, and with charisma rather than character.

Generally, I'm for performance over appearance. But sometimes, appearance IS performance.

Wear whatever watch you want.

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:58pm

First of all, wear the watch you like. Who cares what anyone else says about it?

My PERSONAL issue with Movado and Tag are that they're all about branding (well, maybe a bit about design). You pay $2000 for a watch that is basically the same guts as a $200 Seiko - it's a quartz movement.

You buy a nice automatic, and that's a miniature work of art. All the little springs and gears working together, finished with an artisan's eye for perfection. Who cares that it's not as accurate as a computer driven quartz? It's a magnificent piece of engineering and craftsmanship.

Even a Breitling or Omega automatic, which run on modified ETA movements represent have an intense amount of work put into customizing that little mechanical heartbeat. And for about the same price as a Breit, Omega, Tag or Movado quartz!

There are plenty of affordable (sub-$1000) automatics I'd pick any day of the week over any quartz watch, but that's because the movement is important to me. To most people it's not. I'd probably take a $50-100 Casio g-shock over most watches you can buy for less than $3000, because the g-shock is an unapologetic tool watch. It's designed for a specific purpose, and nobody does it better especially at that price.

Dec 16, 2018 - 6:59pm

I think the whole watch thing is pretty silly. I've had watches in the past but I currently don't own one and I don't have plans to buy one in the near future. I personally don't like the look of having something on my wrist and rely on my cell for the time. Just my 2 cents.

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