Think I am depressed and need to quit, need advice on managing exit appropriately

Long story short I am at a big grindy NY fund (2y program) and mentally, I have been going to the darkest places, so I believe it is time for me to leave PE as soon as possible, permanently. 

School Considerations

I've applied to bschool and would like to quit now, but worry quitting now would adversely affect admissions. So I'm thinking it's best to quit once I gain admission this winter. However, my firm is very close to the top MBA programs, so I worry that if I quit, they will reach out to the MBA program where I gain admission and ask them to rescind my potential acceptance. My question: is there any precedent for this at all, and how would you evaluate whether or not to be concerned about this risk?

Future Job Considerations

I also worry about future recommendation letters. I'll never come back to PE because of how it affects my health, but for better lifestyle jobs still within investing, I worry I'll need a rec letter and will get dinged broadly for leaving my program early. My question: how would you evaluate the puts and takes of this risk, and its importance?

Closing

Overall I'm an ok performer and strong cultural fit. I am deeply grateful to my firm for the learning opportunities it has given me, so want to leave in as respectful of a way as possible. However, I am suffering inside and so need to make a change.

Thank you for any reflections on my situation and any advice on how to go about this. 

 
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Your first - and only priority - is your mental health and well-being. Period. Full-stop. No amount of anything - anything, is worth jeopardizing that.

School considerations - being unemployed shortly after you submit an MBA application would be a topic the admissions office would want to understand (and would come up during the interviews). Assuming you applied round-1, there's 3 months that you need to get through. If you can hang on (but take your productivity down to fit your lifestyle) I'd do that. Feel free to change jobs as soon as you get the acceptance letter.

Future job considerations. Not important. Don't worry about it. 

Basically - cater to your own well-being. This is just a job. Make sure you are healthy - physically and mentally. And in the fullness of time, whether you did 1 year or 2 years in a PE job in your mid-20s... frankly doubt you'll remember and if you do, I'm sure the only reaction you'd have is a chuckle for how silly you thought this decision was back in the day. I can virtually guarantee that at the end of your long, well-lived life, your career/title/$ in your bank account will not be one of the top-5 things in your life that will have brought you joy.

 

I would recommend instead of quitting, use your current health insurance to seek help of a therapist via telehealth. While I agree with everyone your mental health is your primary concern and it should be, realistically speaking other things like lack of funds, lack of insurance will soon come into play and would be in a downward spiral.

Remember, can’t escape but can learn how we react to situations and sometimes it’s just a matter of retraining your brain.

 

Agreed - your health is the most important. But try to find another job before you leave ideally. If that is too hard, communicate with your staffer that you are going through a rough time and need some slack and then try to interview for other places with the decreased workload. If that doesn't work, these banks have programs in place where you can request time off to seek mental health help. Maybe during that leave of absence you could set up some calls / network with other places. You could also have your doctor write a note about you having anxiety issues/symptoms etc. They will not fuck with you if you have a medical note as they can be sued tremendously as it could count as discrimination based on health.  

 

Honestly, if I were you I’d talk to a doctor about this all and see what the doctor thinks about taking an extended leave. I’d imagine the doctor would 100% recommend you take this time off.

Then, tell your company that you've been facing some health issues lately and you can tell them that your doctor has recommended you take some time off to focus on your health.

Just keep things vague & be assertive. Don't "ask" for time off, rather tell them you need to follow your doctor's orders and cannot fulfill your work responsibilities until youve had some time to sort things out.

I realize this plan isn't perfect, but i think it's a quick way to clear your plate and step away from work without attracting too much attention. You can then use your time off to heal & find a new job.

Best of luck

 

Completely agree with this. You can take like 3-6 months off with a doctor's advice. Do it now, take a break, and then get into business school and then leave. If it ever comes up you can say you had a medical issue that was resolved and they'll assume it was something physical. 

I also think you'll be fine for rec letters given you say you're well liked. Keep in touch with any strong connections from the firm.

 

Was in a similar boat. A few big questions:

  • did you apply round 1? If yes, you really are only holding out until interviews in the next few months unless you really believe your recommenders would be so vengeful they would try to go around you (seems pretty messed up, but people can be that way)
  • Have you used all your vacation? Take a week off and you might feel better. If you haven’t used all your vacation, do that first before making a decision.
  • Ask yourself if your current work situation is worse than 2 months ago (are you working with assholes currently or on a bad project?) 
  • If you know you don’t want to be in the industry, it’s possible to use it as a rational pivot in an industry. I debated doing this. Here’s a possible explanation, “I 100% knew the industry wasn’t for me/ I didn’t want to come back, and wanted an alternate avenue to pursue prior to bschool. I’ve only known 2 jobs and figured something in the interim between now and September could give me an alternate perspective that would be very helpful for furthering my understanding of where I want a career. I also knew that there was no chance I would be able to search or interview effectively while in my current role” 

Another strategy if you are just trying o buy time is to go on leave as other people mentioned. It’s scary, but you need to do what you need to do and in the long run if you know this isn’t the job or even field you want f them. Go to your manager and say, “I’m having serious mental health issues, I’m taking 2 weeks off.” They might push back and say something like, “this is what you signed up for, you need to do this etc.” your reply, “I understand this isn’t ideal. I don’t want to be in this situation either, unfortunately I am past a point of recovery. I am taking two weeks off and I would like to return to the role after that time” Potentially they will say, “if you leave you are fired” in which case, you work for assholes and have bad managers and gtfo.

Edit: just adding to the above, a rational thing for a manager to do is to give you the two weeks if you have been there longer than a year and are at least an ok performer. Training a new hire blows and you being gone 2 weeks is way better than losing you completely if you are even decent at your job.

 

School considerations: I've never heard of this happening and think you should not be worried about it. I can't imagine somebody being so vengeful that they'd go to an MBA program and ask for them to rescind a student's admission because he/she quit a few months earlier than the boss wanted. And even then, I don't see the MBA program following through on it (unless maybe there was an eight-figure donation on the line). You'd need to have lied on your application, committed a felony, or something similar. 

Future Job Considerations: I haven't needed a recommendation letter for any job I've ever applied for and again, even if you need one, I don't see quitting a few months earlier than you otherwise would as a reason somebody would give you a bad recommendation. You know your firm's leadership better, so you be the judge of how vengeful they are.

Closing: Plenty of people take off a lot of time before starting at business school. Your applications are in. If you want to stick it out through interviews so you feel like you're being 100% truthful about your employment status, go for it, but I feel like you can quit soon if you want to and still feel good about your applications. HR isn't going to call up an admissions officer and say "oh hey this kid quit". As long as you feel confident that you're going to get into a program you want to actually attend, go quit. Take care of yourself. Unwind for a bit. Get whatever help you may feel like you need. You don't have to tell anybody at your firm why you're really leaving if you don't want to... just say that you're quitting to go to business school and you're going to travel for a while beforehand or something like that.

 

What really strikes me in your post is the degree to which you have ceded control over your life to your job which seems beyond typical/unhealthy and is something you have to address not just today but in the future. Of course the finance industry takes over your personal life and all that but you're literally afraid of exercising your agency to leave your job (rather than the prospect of being without said job). That is an extreme situation to be in and not normal. You entered into an employment contract not indentured servitude.

Is your existing team abusive and retaliatory? If not, then what are you afraid of? If yes, then even more reason for you to find a way to leave your situation sooner than later.

There are some helpful tips here on how to time your departure with your MBA admission process (if you think you can wait a few more months) but in any case, I highly recommend you to quit as soon as you have you acceptance. Not just for your present mental health but also to develop the essential life-skills of pushing back and saying no at work (and being able to to quit at any time is a critical part of establishing those boundaries).

 

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