UChicago is now Number 3 on USNWR
What do you guys think about UChicago moving up from a three way tie for 4th to tying with Yale for 3rd this year? This is the first time a non-HYP school has made US News Top 3 in a decade or two. Do you think the school will become more normalized and have less of the 'life of mind' students as hs seniors jerk of to this shit? Booth also is tied for 2nd and beat Wharton for the first time, I believe. I know most people use the US News ranking as THE official rankings, which is probably why whenever UChicago moves up they have a record amount of donations from alums. Seems like their change in Deans and going to the common app really paid off for them.
School rankings and which school one should attend for IB recruiting are not synonymous.
Yes, I realize this considering Stern places more kids into IB than any school other than Wharton and Harvard even though Stern isn't really considered prestigious or too difficult to get into (among my HS and University peers). That wasn't even what I was asking though.
Maybe I should have worded my reply differently. I was responding to your first sentence, where you asked what everyone here thinks. In terms of IB recruiting, these rankings do not matter. In terms of academics, I would also take rankings with a grain of salt.
Stern is ranked 2 for finance on USNWR and top 5 ug bschool and had a 11% acceptance rate for the class of 2020, but glad to know some high school senior thinks it's not hard to get into
That's bullshit. School rankings(especially USNWR because they're reliable) DO matter. IB is up to the person attending the MBA program. If s/he wants it, they'll get it out of any of the top 15 programs. Yes, IB recruiting is strong at some schools but does that mean that one should go to Stern instead of Columbia? NO.
IBs don't recruit at Columbia because it is ranked higher than NYU is in some report, but rather because Columbia has a history of being stronger academically. No IB is going to see UChicago move up in the rankings and think "Ok, guys, now we need to recruit more heavily there." Yes, the history of a school's academics matter, but the rankings in some magazine or website does not.
They're talking about undergrads. see, you need some more sleep
Note that where you go to college may influence where you end up working after college. Many on-campus recruiting opps will be for Chicago and other surrounding cities in the Midwest, which may not appeal to some people.
I'd definitely agree with that. Name recognition tends to be within a regional radius for most schools, with HYP and other institutions being obvious exceptions.
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Yeah, I've seen almost all UChicago kids at NY on Linkedin now.
Thats simply because location matters, because NYC employers don't want to waste too much dime on hauling Chicago/Northwestern students for interviews and relocations $$ when Columbians and Sternies are available nearby. Same reason why Chicago employers only hire the stars of other regions.
Note this doesn't happen at all in master's or doctorate admissions for these places except a lower-tier school - no more incentives to save money, only talent matters
Chicago over Stanford is all you need to know to be skeptical of these rankings.
Everyone wishes they went to Stanford.
I know man. It's the first time that has ever happened. They were tied with them for like the past 4 years or something.
Hmm, UChicago sends out a letter to incoming students promoting academic freedom and saying it won't coddle the special snowflakes and it jumps up in the rankings. Interesting correlation.
lol correlation doesn't imply causation
You're going to ace your intro to stats final this semester.
From what I've seen, the 'life of the mind' mentality still has a vice grip on culture on campus. At another college, a jump into the top 3 would cause a major celebration. I've seen like, two posts on facebook about this from current students and one of them was ironic. People take pride in going to a school no one knows where fun goes to die and the stuff they learn is obtusely theoretical and still enjoying the crap out of life and being successful for recruiting for whatever jobs they want.
On the quant side, geographically I think UChicago has an advantage over other schools. Chicago has a large number of prop trading firms (more than nyc in per capita and maybe even total).
I don't think recruiting will be affected by the change. The last few years has seen an absurd increase in the number of students going for and getting consulting/ibd/s&t jobs, motivated because student communities are so good at helping each other out through the process and employers increasing spot allocation (esp. goldman) given rate of return offers they give out. I don't think rankings have anything to do with it, more organic growth.
These numbers are useless. Meet real people who've attended these places, and you'll get a feel for reality.
A lot of ppl from uchic got recruited FT GS, when i was a visiting a friend there, my homie got shot showing me around. We got into a fight with Chief Keef and his krew. Was wall-street vs. the hood. My homie Mike Merger was slain by two two threes. RIP Michael
It's well earned. Chicago is hard to get into and even harder to get out of.
We can debate whether Chicago belongs ahead of Stanford or MIT, but I think it deserves to rank above much of the Ivy League. Yale does not have a strong STEM program, and STEM is where there is still an objective truth.
UChicago is one of the only top ranked schools on that list that essentially has no engineering program (other than some random thing they added last year apparently)
Nice to see you're finally keeping your pro-midwest anti-ivy bias under wraps
I see a lot of smart and accomplished kids at Yale, but I don't see them learning all that much that is objective.
Bullshit, Chicago inly deserves to be ranked only higher than Brown, Dartmouth and Cornell out of all the ivies. Putting Chicago in the top 5 is complete bull.
As somebody who was accepted to UChicago and chose to go to a top 15 school I'd simply say it just didn't seem worth it to me. Nearly all the students I know who attended (only 6 so small sample size) fit the stereotype and those that didn't were unhappy.
Can't sacrifice everything for poor mental health
Georgetown isn’t exactly top 15 but ok
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