What is your deal with square-toed shoes?

Why does everyone on this board hate square-toed shoes? One person even said it make you look like a dbag. Can you explain this to me please?

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Oct 18, 2010 - 3:39pm

It is difficult to explain why something looks bad, but to me square toed shoes look like something this guy would wear out:

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Oct 18, 2010 - 5:41pm

Santoni Loafer's and razor sharp pleated dress slacks M-F, driving mocs and Banana Republic Chinos for weekends. That's it.

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Oct 18, 2010 - 10:36pm

Stringer Bell:
Santoni Loafer's and razor sharp pleated dress slacks M-F, driving mocs and Banana Republic Chinos for weekends. That's it.

That would be fucking nuts if a first year came in wearing $1,000 shoes -- and loafers to top it off!

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Oct 18, 2010 - 11:17pm

BBA:
Stringer Bell:
Santoni Loafer's and razor sharp pleated dress slacks M-F, driving mocs and Banana Republic Chinos for weekends. That's it.

That would be fucking nuts if a first year came in wearing $1,000 shoes -- and loafers to top it off!

Loafers = baller. 1k for a pair Santoni's? Usually leave Swarovski Crystal studded ones for Euro trash.

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Oct 18, 2010 - 7:53pm

You guys are hilarious. I didn't realize how much the shape of the toes of dress shoes really affect you guys. So basically if I see someone with square-toed shoes, I should assume he's either from Jersey, poor, is a dbag,had no taste, or he works retail? Or maybe he just has square-toed shoes...

 
Oct 18, 2010 - 10:37pm

Cartwright:
jonnyseed:
So basically if I see someone with square-toed shoes, I should assume he's either from Jersey, poor, is a dbag,had no taste, or he works retail?

Not either/or....and, and, and, and.

Haha, I think I get your point. You people are really anti square-toe shoes. I mean it really ignites a fire for you guys.

I want to know what happens when you see a fellow employee or someone on the streets with square-toe shoes?

 
Oct 19, 2010 - 12:48am

jonnyseed:
So basically if I see someone with square-toed shoes, I should assume he's either from Jersey, poor, is a dbag,had no taste, or he works retail?

When you put it that way it sounds ugly. But, well, yes, that's exactly it - though it usually boils down to "no taste." if you saw a guy wearing a jean vest on top of business casual, you'd assume the same thing, and you'd be equally right.

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Oct 18, 2010 - 11:55pm

Square toed shoes have their place and it's not in IBD is all you need to know. It'd be like wearing black biking boots to a formal dinner; they probably won't let you in anyways and you look tacky/like a tard besides. Dress for the occasion; dress for success. I imagine there's some ubiquitous quote that should go here, but I can't remember it so...

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Oct 19, 2010 - 1:09am

A jean vest on top of business casual isn't the best analogy here. In my opinion, shoes make the man. I think, the shoes make the outfit. Especially in the world of finance where its one of the few areas you can distinguish your outfit. A guy could be wearing a good looking wso/">suit and then you see his shoes and you can't help but ask yourself how in the hell he could get it so wrong.

I don't know why it is square shoes don't work, they just don't. Maybe the fact that they're SQUARE. Maybe its that they just look clumsy. Like you could trip any minute. In my opinion, square shoes and wso/">suits should be avoided at all costs.

 
Oct 19, 2010 - 1:59am

If you walked into my company with square toed shoes, I'd fire you. I would ding you from the interview before you opened your mouth. Square toed shoes are about is bad as camo cargo shorts.

There is no reason to further explain why they are terrible looking, they just are. Just as there should be no reason the explain why a straight man shouldn't own a toy poodle. Its purely intuitive lol

 
Oct 19, 2010 - 8:11am

I'm just confused as to how someone can look at a pair of square toed shoes and think, "Yes, that would look great." It seems self explanatory

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Oct 19, 2010 - 8:27am

someotherguy:
The intensity of opinions on fashion on this site never fail to astound me.

Same here. I'm so glad I started this thread, it has given me many laughs. It stemmed from ana conversation I had with a co-worker who was wearing square-toed shoes. I also have some square-toed loafers, and yes, I do wear them to work.

 
Oct 19, 2010 - 10:26am

You guys are so petty and affeminate for caring that much about the shape of someone elses shoes. I mean really, judging someone entirely based on their shoes?

 
Oct 20, 2010 - 3:41pm

jonnyseed:
You guys are so petty and affeminate for caring that much about the shape of someone elses shoes. I mean really, judging someone entirely based on their shoes?

Thats like saying he is wearing a pink wso/">suit we wont care....

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Oct 20, 2010 - 3:49pm

blackfinancier:
jonnyseed:
You guys are so petty and affeminate for caring that much about the shape of someone elses shoes. I mean really, judging someone entirely based on their shoes?

Thats like saying he is wearing a pink wso/">suit we wont care....

I really didn't realize square toes were on the same level as a pink wso/">suit.

 
Oct 19, 2010 - 12:15pm

Haha, some of you people are hilarious. I don't see anything wrong with them, in fact I'm wearing them right now...along with jeans and a Nike DRI-FIT polo wso/">shirt in the team of my choice...so maybe I'm not the best example, lol.

While I agree they don't convey professionalism like a cap toe does and I don't think they are ALL hideous, although most of them are clunky and goofy looking...plus I don't think mine appear to be as square as some of the ones I've seen recently, which has made it hard for me to find a decent replacement. To each their own. If you don't own them already I wouldn't suggest buying them over some cap toes for interviews for first year or SA positions, etc.

Regards

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Oct 19, 2010 - 12:27pm

cphbravo96:
Haha, some of you people are hilarious. I don't see anything wrong with them, in fact I'm wearing them right now...along with jeans and a Nike DRI-FIT polo wso/">shirt in the team of my choice...so maybe I'm not the best example, lol.

While I agree they don't convey professionalism like a cap toe does and I don't think they are ALL hideous, although most of them are clunky and goofy looking...plus I don't think mine appear to be as square as some of the ones I've seen recently, which has made it hard for me to find a decent replacement. To each their own. If you don't own them already I wouldn't suggest buying them over some cap toes for interviews for first year or SA positions, etc.

Regards

According to the people on this board, you're probably a piece of garbage from Jersey.

 
Oct 19, 2010 - 3:37pm

jonnyseed:
cphbravo96:
Haha, some of you people are hilarious. I don't see anything wrong with them, in fact I'm wearing them right now...along with jeans and a Nike DRI-FIT polo wso/">shirt in the team of my choice...so maybe I'm not the best example, lol.

While I agree they don't convey professionalism like a cap toe does and I don't think they are ALL hideous, although most of them are clunky and goofy looking...plus I don't think mine appear to be as square as some of the ones I've seen recently, which has made it hard for me to find a decent replacement. To each their own. If you don't own them already I wouldn't suggest buying them over some cap toes for interviews for first year or SA positions, etc.

Regards

According to the people on this board, you're probably a piece of garbage from Jersey.

I'm not from Jersey, but I've been known to punch loud mouth, poofy-haired midgets in the mouth right after...

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Regards

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Oct 20, 2010 - 9:09pm

I read some articles and forums about square-toed shoes, and I have to cave in and say you guys may be right about this one. I officially retired my two pair of Kennth Cole shoes (Yes, I actually do have those).

I gave them to my neighbor who thought they were amazing. I hope he doesn't interview for a finance job wearing those things.

It wasn't too big of a loss, I think they only cost me like $50 each. Now I have to search for these "wing tips" you guys keep talking about.

 
Oct 28, 2010 - 2:07pm

GoodBread:
I would start with a pair of black cap-toes before getting wingtips jonnyseed. Church's Consul is the prototypical oxford cap toe in my book (http://www.church-footwear.com/churchs.html).

Agreed.

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Nov 25, 2010 - 9:57am

Bob Sacamano:
Or these?

http://www.ferragamo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopCategories_31150_…

Or are these "trapezoid-toe" shoes lol

No those aren't. Check out this link though:

http://community.artofmanliness.com/profiles/blogs/art-of-manliness-wso/">suit-school-3

"Companies make square-toed shoes because it's cheaper and easier than making a good rounded toe shoe. They pass it off as fashion, but it just makes your feet look like Frankenshoes, and they laugh at the increased profit margins. Moreover, they are normally made of inferior leather and have rubber soles."

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Nov 23, 2010 - 12:31pm

I saw a history channel show where they showed that fashion in medieval armor was cyclical with the armored boot changing from pointed to square to pointed again over a twenty year span. So I guess it just depends where we are in the fashion cycle.

 
Nov 24, 2010 - 8:29am

"Don't Mess With the Zohan" was on TV a couple days ago. There was a shout out to Kenneth Cole square-toed shoes. It was obviously mocking people who wore those shoes.

When I saw that scene I couldn't stop laughing, all I thought about was this thread.

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 5:52pm

Clarkey:
Square-toed shoes look silly because they look too big and too big looks clumsy. If you saw a guy wearing a jacket two sizes too big for him, you'd think he was silly. It's the same with the shoes.

Or they just look cheap.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:13pm

How many shoes should I be looking at on a graduate budget? Will 2 nice black ones suffice for 2 years? Or would you recommend 2 black and 1 brown (3 total)?

Also are there any good places anyone knows of in Australia less than $200?

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:14pm

On our floor its business casual, so no need for formal black shoes really.
If I had to throw out my 13 pairs and start anew I'd go for a pair in brown calf, a pair in brown suede, a pair in black calf (just in case).

Suede is the most comfortable to wear.

Also remember to match your belt with your shoes.

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:15pm

ugglan:
On our floor its business casual, so no need for formal black shoes really.
If I had to throw out my 13 pairs and start anew I'd go for a pair in brown calf, a pair in brown suede, a pair in black calf (just in case).

Suede is the most comfortable to wear.

Also remember to match your belt with your shoes.

Thanks for your advice. Unfortunately I don't know what "calf" means in the context of work shoes (I've googled).

I'll need to get a pair for a BB interview in 3 days. What do you think about some of these?
http://www.zushoe.com.au/catalogue/premium_mens_shoes.aspx

They're all rubber soles though and I heard that this is bad? Is it?

Also, when you say match shoes to belt, do you mean brown belt for brown shoes or what, I'm really clueless about business fashion and my family are hopeless haha

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:17pm

Ah, by calf i mean just regular leather. And matching the belt is exactly that, try to wear brown belt with brown shoes etc. It doesnt have to be the same brown, just not too far apart color wise.

Look around http://www.styleforum.net/ for ideas on where to shop in australia, use the search tool in the forums.

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:19pm

ding them

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:20pm

Brooks Brothers has some really nice cap toes on clearance at the moment:

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Se…

They're black calf and regularly $500, marked down to $234 or something like that, and if you qualify for their credit card you get 25% off your first purchase which makes them like $175. Getting a $500 pair of shoes that will last you many years and you'll eventually get re-soled a number of times for $175 is a smokin' deal. I know money's tight, but think about it.

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:23pm

"Ideal" color pairing. In the free world you can wear red converse with your navy suit (although i'd advise against that for interviews at least). On a serious note, navy could be worn with black or brown. Although brown is definitely more stylish.

Don't know about city vs country though. newfirstyear might have a point there.

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:24pm

I wore a navy brooks suit and black cap toes to all my interviews... i think its why I got dinged

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:28pm

EngBanker:
It's not wall street types per se. It's the fashion aware community. As I read somewhere once, they're like the PT Cruiser; under no circumstances they look good.

note: PT Cruiser is a car. Look it up if you don't know it.

haha i know what a PT cruiser is, its the second ugliest car behind the pontiac aztek

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:31pm

trailmix8:
I hate squared toed shoes as much as anyone else on this board, and would obviously never own any. But was really wondering why is it that squared toed shoes are hated by wall street types? Would somoene care to elaborate as to how squared toed shoes received their bad rap?

Just look at it from an aesthetic POV.

It throws off a well-fitting suit. Ideally, you want to keep your silhouette in line.

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:32pm

Let me preface this by saying yes, you should avoid square toe shoes as they are less fashionable and aren't looked upon favorably in the finance world (as this thread evidences). The ones you picked are little too casual, so I would recommend against them.

However, just on my way to work this morning I was noticing the shoes of what many suits we're wearing. And, I'd say in a good portion, you'd find square toes shoes. Bottom line: who gives a shit. If you work your ass off, your work product will speak a lot louder than the toe shape of your shoes. This board seems overemphasis on these sort of things.

But, again, non-square toe shoes are preferable.

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:33pm

idk what you guys are talking about..OP's shoes are gorgeous

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:35pm

[quote=Bernankey]Since we are on the topic. Does this apply to loafers, such as these?

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/bruno-magli-renegade-loafer-men/3185966?ori…]

I think those are ugly regardless of the toe shape, but the square toe definitely is not as bad as the OP's.

If you're going to wear bit loafers, go with the classic Gucci (or another brand that has made a shoe identical to the Gucci one)

Gucci: http://bit.ly/GYfQ3t

Cole Haan imitation: http://bit.ly/HqQ9YL

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:37pm

I hate the way box toes shoes look. Go with Cole Han they are the best shoes. They team up with NIKE so the shoes are extremely Comfortable.

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:39pm

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:40pm

They look like shit?

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:41pm

Square toed shoes make you look like a duck.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:43pm

I personally think they look fine, but I refrain from wearing them because everyone else hates them. Fashion is ultimately subjective, but it's not worth the risk of being judged in this situation.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:44pm

I'll never know what's wrong with them, but I blindly accept that there's something wrong with them

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:48pm

LHDan:
I'b been wearing these to the office for a while. Are the toes too squared?

Those are fine. Just remember to match your socks to your pants, not your shoes.
 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:47pm

I bought square toed shoes once. Never again.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:51pm

They look cheaply made (and usually are) and are absurdly ugly. Almost as bad as wearing a black suit to work

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:53pm

Uh, no.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:55pm

You sure? Did you check the top view? They look somewhat square, I don't know. It might be my irracional fear of square-toe shoes that has been instilled on me by WSO lol.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:56pm

I can see what you are talking about. It is not super noticeable but it's there. Get something different if its going to bother you. If you are looking for cheaper shoes you can get some J&M's for next to nothing on Ebay.

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 7:57pm

I believe that it is technically called "chisel toed", so I think you're good.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:58pm

Agree with Oneal^^ . In that prie range you would do better with J&M or Cole Haan. Florsheim are poorly constructed and just feel cheap.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 7:59pm

If you have to ask...

In all seriousness grab a better brand than Florsheim. As @"FeelingMean" mentioned Cole Haan and J&M are much better. Allen Edmonds if you are really serious.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 8:00pm

@"AcctNerd" Allen Edmonds when on sale.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 8:02pm

They're not, but that glossy shit is gonna look like the shit that it is. You'd be better off getting some Docker cap toes if you're on that much of a budget.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 8:06pm

Yes, I am a freshman. The reason these caught my eye is they look a lot like the AE Park Avenues.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 8:11pm

Are these considered Squares toed shoes? (Originally Posted: 09/08/2014)

So I'm not quite familiar with shoe brands, but I do know that from this board and my own connections, squares toed shoes aren't looked at favorably on IBD.

Having said that, would something like this be considered squared toed?

http://m.nordstrom.com/s/3167582/??cm_ven=Linkshare&cm_cat=partner&cm_p…

I don't have this exact pair but I saw a pair with a design just like this at a store for a good sale. The ones I saw and this ones in this pic both appear to have a somewhat squared tip though not quite noticeable unless you're looking carefully at it.

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 8:17pm

Looks fine to me, I was afraid when I first clicked the link.

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Nov 28, 2010 - 8:18pm

"How often do you really look at a man's shoes?"

So long as they aren't square toed cloggers you'll be fine.

 
Nov 28, 2010 - 8:25pm

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