What Would the Founding Fathers Think of America Today?
Title says it all. I was thinking this in bed last night and I know they're rolling in their graves at this very moment.
Discuss.
Title says it all. I was thinking this in bed last night and I know they're rolling in their graves at this very moment.
Discuss.
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I don't know, maybe wonder why there are no slaves anymore?
Do you really think they'd ask that? More than a few of them were abolitionists, and they must've know it was a possible outcome.
Exactly. I’m sure a lot of them knew it was inevitable.
In Thomas Jefferson’s letter to James Madison, he wrote that one generation has no right to bind another. I don’t know what they would’ve thought,I guess they would be surprised by certain things, maybe disappointed by others, who knows really? The earth belongs to the living not the dead. He talks about quite a lot in the letter, I found interesting.
https://jeffersonpapers.princeton.edu/selected-documents/thomas-jeffers…
Yeah exactly, who gives a shit? Beyond trying to make sure that we try to leave this place in a better condition for future generations than we found it, I wouldn’t look too much into it.
They'd ask who the fuck let in all these pie-faced Irish Catholics and why a confederal republic is now a global hegemon.
Not the mention the Italian Catholics, Polacks, and Eastern European Jews. Really turned America into a shit hole with their mafias, unions, political machines, and rampant crime.
Ahem, 1 of those 3 had nothing to do with any of that.
They would be bare mad that black people are not owned.
They'd start tearing up when they realize what a glorious and powerful country it has become. But then they would become disillusioned once they realize how much power the government exerts over citizens' lives. Bittersweet moment.
This is probably the most likely answer. Can you imagine being the founding father of a country, and 200+ years it's the greatest in the world?
I think they’d be ecstatic the experiment worked as it did. Definitely would be pissed at some absurd interpretations of the commerce clause though
leaving aside some possibly true but mostly sarcastic comments about slavery and immigration, I think they'd be proud that the US has grown into an economic powerhouse in a relatively short time but mortified at the size of government. I think they'd look down on lobbyists, career politicians, deficit spending, income tax, moral hazard in healthcare & finance & central banking. they would also look down on politicians capitalizing on their names and being greedy/corrupt. I think the original founding of the country being built upon a rebuke of taxation without representation and corruption by the monarchy has been forgotten. America is a crony capitalist society, and while we're the only country I would want to live in, we've made a remarkable departure from what this country was founded on. we saw the ills of excess with England and other empires, as it was luxury and greed/imperialism that ultimately led to their decline, sought to change that, and now we have a system that rewards political elites, imperialism, profit maximization without an eye to externalities or stability, and essentially shuts anyone out of politics who's not a morally bankrupt decamillionaire
edit: I realize this came off as negative, and it is a bit, but don't take me for some America hater. this is still the best country in the world if you're a capitalist. our crony system sucks, but it sucks the least when you compare it to tenable alternatives (see here for more: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/is-america-a-second-tier-country…)
They’d be pretty happy about the lockdowns
Hope that's sarcasm
Once they took the time to have all the current major political talking points explained to them and were shown just how overreaching the government has become in the last 100 years, I imagine they'd say it's time to lead another revolution.
My thoughts right here, especially the last line.
Politics aside, they'd be pretty fucking confused by our addictions to our phones.
I think they would be pretty impressed the price of light.
One thing that has always puzzled me is why people care. The whole question seems predicated on the assumption that the founding father's had an inherently superior view of what society/gov should look like. I don't mean to bash you for asking it's just an odd obsession among Americans.
For a lot of people, it's their heritage and identity.
They're some of the greatest men who ever set foot on this planet. Their wisdom and foresight is one of the big reasons America is the powerhouse it is today. I want people like them running the country today. I'm sure we'd be cleaned up within one presidency.
Look at Skankhunt's response on this thread: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/blog/my-beef-with-the-founding-fathers
LOL OK don't really disagree, but the founding fathers is like one of the 6-7 big reasons why America is the most powerful country today. It's kind of ironic that people are proud of the democracy and separation of powers created by the founding fathers, while at the same time think that the prosperity of America depends on a dozen brilliant individuals who would run the country.
Agreed. While the founding fathers were great men and far ahead of most of their contemporaries in terms of good governance, the extent to which a sizeable portion of Americans think that the late 1700’s was the peak of humanity is quite strange.
Why is this thread being de-bumped?
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Great question, WallStreetOasis.com
they’re probs thinking where the sluts at?
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