+12 Well thought out post. DealTech
+12 It's all about perspective. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+12 "rererere"Good points and I support taxation for the country itself - infrastructure, public schools, etc, but honestly not so much as a too CRE
+12 "rererere"So not one person ever was ungrateful? Not one low income tenant ever destroyed the newly furnished unit provided to them? CRE
+12 people at JPM will tell you its the same level as GS/MS, people at MS/GS will tell you its not.. just like people at MS will say its at the same level as GS but GS will say otherwise.. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+12 I'll be the contrarian here and say that I don't see anything wrong with getting an expensive watch in your first few years of work if you have the disposable income. ArchBrand001
+12 First off - I can completely relate to the OP. I had plenty of days as an analyst where I am doing diddly squat for all intents and purposes all afternoon through dinner knowing what's coming that night. RX
+12 The weeknd - Moelis RX MD Da baby - BAML LF analyst Drake - Intern in IB-M&A
+12 Step 1 ) Listen to Swedish house mafia - Antidote, Astronomia 2K19 radio edit and Axwell - in my mind. Step 2 ) Adopt top bucket or bust mentality with everything in life. Intern in IB-M&A
+12 It is a profession completely overblown by the media. Do you want to know the most realistic scene approximating banking in real life? Margin Call, the below link: Synergy_or_Syzygy
+12 I really love working in a satellite office and especially the lifestyle, but it is unique to each person. Synergy_or_Syzygy
+12 "Associate 1 in PE - LBOs" I agree. BobTheBaker
+12 "Burner-0101" Exactly. I can't give you the data points for the entire industry, nor do I remember mine exactly. Business School in Other
+12 Good news, your situation is nearly identical to what mine was 10 years ago... I also got rejected from HSW coming from PE with a 760 GMAT. At the time, I was shocked and had to rethink my career strategy. CompBanker
+12 Okay, good job on the cold emailing! Shocked how few people do this (as a note, I almost always say yes to request when I get via email/linkedin if I can quickly see it's not spam). A few points to consider.... redever
+12 NY IBD Intern in IB - Cov
+12 I would not worry too much (as someone who had a liberal arts degree in S&T on an exotic macro desk). AverageJoe1
+12 Just going to address one particular element of the original poster’s argument (the EBITDA multiple). I agree that leading up to COVID, multiples were the highest they’ve ever been. CompBanker
+12 This a 100 times. Pescepescetarian
+12 Yep, that's going to be an auto delete for a ton of people (myself included). NuclearPenguins
+12 I’m going to also add to the above, if you say things that make you seem anti-choice, anti-lgbtq, overtly misogynist, “all lives matter, etc you’re going to run into lots of trouble - Both at work and in social settings wi AllDay_028
+12 "Prospect in IB - Gen" lol while I completely agree, you pretty much lose your freedom of speech while working there. baddealflow12
+12 "earthwalker7" Truth be told even IF you're fluent, you'll never be truly native or seen as a local. And it's fair right? Jamoldo
+12 "latinblue" How have you all learned to handle rejection and stay motivated? CRE
+12 There seems to be a fair amount of confusion when discussing infrastructure, infra banking, power & utilities banking and what each of these entails, so just sharing for the benefit of all. Black Jack
+12 One shot one kill. If you don't score high on the gao-kao your life is over. I mean it. No hyperbole. You are just boned, and your professional life is over as of high school senior year. earthwalker7
+12 idk if this is good for networking but these are good ways to get to know someone thebrofessor
+12 I think MM firms are extremely group dependent but in a general sense I think it is - Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+12 No, actually they mean the token minorities who went to Deerfield, Andover, Exeter or Stuyvesant, TJHSST or Eton, Harrow or {insert top grammar school} etc who have well to-do parents. princepieman
+12 didn't read your long ass wall of text yes, it sucks that you need to work a lifetime to earn an enjoyable amount of money Prospect in IB - Gen
+12 "AnonymousMonkey130" Taking full responsibility for all your failures and shortcomings without blaming your circumstances. Frieds
+12 Unpopular opinion - having a home bigger than 5000 square feet is fucking stupid unless you already have FU levels of money or live in a flyover state like Missouri. 6969
+12 55% women? Realistically, how many women in the MBA PE age range (~27ish years old) would be that interested in working at a place like Apollo which is known for brutal hours? Analyst 1 in Other
+12 The way it should be is that he does the basic tasks and you review them. Your work should never end up in his hands in other forms than PDF. You should consolidate the slides. Pan European Monkey
+12 This makes no sense at all, sorry. This is a simple math equation / breakeven analysis. VP in PE - LBOs
+12 Luckily, even congressional Republicans came out against this. In the same tweet, Trump said that absentee voting is great but mail in voting leads to widespread fraud. CRE
+12 Global American influence and foreign perception of America is not akin to a teenage girl worried about her reputation. What other countries think of America is of unquestionable importance in global politics. CRE
+12 Hopefully this helps. I work at a MF. TheBuellerBanker
+12 I think you gave too much information about yourself, your story is already known by some other teams in the bank, so it would be easy for anyone in the bank to know who you are, be careful please with giving that much inf Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+12 I really like the bottom half of your answer because of the maturity of your thought process. Lead Left
+12 The point about them being your classmates is that you can reach out and bridge some of the gap between you and the privilege they have. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+12 I can honestly say, that the friends I have who stayed in banking (for whatever reason, didn't recruit well, didn't like the buy side, loved banking, etc) are doing the best of anyone. Black Jack
+12 Just giving some real, no BS advice here....but, you probably are terrible at interviewing. Luckily, this is the easiest thing to correct. Sil
+12 The difference between us and all the countries that have started to open up again is that they managed to successfully flatten the curve while we failed spectacularly due to no one taking lockdown, social distancing, or m Intern in PE - LBOs
+12 Please can we not turn WSO into reddit or one of those pickup forums? I swear I have seen this thread a million times without even looking for it. this is how it normally goes: Gumball3000
+12 Or maybe it’s because conservatives have more to bitch about? Like someone posted earlier, the media in this country is overwhelmingly liberal, and that is a powerful force to be reckoned with. iercurenc
+12 Quite a few good options here. Holy Cross is sort of the odd man out but I’m sure you could break in from there with some extra hustle. InfidelCashFlow
+12 So, Biden is basically a dementia-ridden puppet for the radical left, who are desperate to abolish the police, raise taxes to fund obnoxious socialist programs, and curtail the right to free speech — Ozymandia
+12 Hey I'm actually really curious, but why are you hell-bent on wanting to dismantle the neoliberal order and globalism? finholuvulongtime
+12 I am a Trump supporter not because of his personality, but simply because of policies.   This is binary - there is no "3rd way" here.   For all of Trump's clear faults which I will not dispute, he gives ltjenkins
+12 It really is going to depend on the shop, and even the analyst, as to what they believe and do. Using an arbitrary WACC is not a practice that I would recommend. Secyh62
+12 . Anonymous Monkey
+12 I'm a conservative--pretty active in the party (well, used to be--kind of disillusioned since 2015/Trump) and I follow the news pretty closely. I've literally never heard of this movement until the last few weeks. I quit this site because of censorship
+12 Guy walks into a bar with a golden retriever.  Takes a seat when the bartender leans over and says "Buddy, we dont allow dogs in here." D.O.U.G.
+12 Doubt this will actually happen. After all, Biden is the presidential candidate not Harris. Pescepescetarian
+12 "Only the government can fix..."  What? The government can certainly help by partnering with corps to create economic zones in inner cities to provide mentoring, additional education, etc. rickle
+12 This is less about track record and more about what skills you felt you'd begun to master? Jamoldo
+12 I've never seen anyone who has left banking because the work was too technically difficult/intellectually challenging. Analyst 3+ in IB-M&A
+12 I definitely wouldn't have gone straight from school to solely working on the e-commerce plan, unless of course I had been working on it throughout college and had enough traction and money coming in to where it would be f Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+12 While it sounds ridiculous, this is actually not crazy. Look at what the left did to Ken Bone when he said he was undecided the other day. They devoured him. MMBanker14
+12 Age, gender, and company brand aren't really much of a factor in your ultimate success in CRE brokerage. Bobias
+12 TLDR: lukewarm take, but I like to date other people in finance... Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
+12 Largely skimmed the advice above. I can't help you with your emotions - that's what irl friends are for - but I can help with a few tactical pieces of advice: PWM Hopeful
+12 I don't have any case studies to share but this type of business is extremely similar to real estate and generally not too hard to get your head around. Tamara_S
+12 Great thread, hope we can keep it on topic and wholesome. It's a very healthy exercise to reflect on this type of stuff semi-regularly. onebagger
+12 I grew up in a house where my parents expected me, my brother, and sister to help out with lots of yard work/chores around the house. NA in IB-M&A
+12 Having read the responses here, I feel no guilt posting while inebriated on many forums. I gave up a big job when my mom got sick to help her before she died. brotherbear
+12 Anyhow...OP, there are a couple things going on here that are all perfectly normal and expected for someone in your position.  CRE
+12 Who cares. You can make plenty of money doing just about anything you like. Just ensure you like it enough to work 80+ hours a week at it and be somewhat creative. m_1
+12 Worked in Corp Dev for a major PE-backed Silicon Valley company for a bit before IB. Got really close with many execs and got a pretty good understanding of the VC and tech cultures. Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+12 Many are currently pondering this and if they're not, they should be (as their company is pondering it for them). Of course it's a personal decision but a mistake many make when pondering is they think it's binary. rickle
+12 Because some people view HYPSW --> GS TMT --> KKR --> HBS / GSB --> Blackstone as the only successful career progression. InfidelCashFlow
+12 The reality is that the Democratic Party is becoming more and more full of rich, woke coastal elites who are out of touch with the working class. Intern in IB - Gen
+12 There is a huge difference between between shaming, being constructive and positive, and telling people that being fat is being beautiful. You are intentionally missing the nuances of communication to make your point. Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
+12 yes and no. we should have no more than 15 states, let's redo the whole shabang thebrofessor
+12 I'm sorry but the issue you take with this is the direct payments?  Not the X trillion that has been given to our corporate oligarchs directly out of our future purchasing power?  Yes, it's the $600 payments to t Turkey Sandwich
+12 Yeah it’s WSO but have a little sympathy for the man... Associate 2 in Consulting
+12 A more revealing data point wrt outcomes would be Covid-related deaths (spoiler: FL in the lead), which DeSantis & Co. have also been accused of under reporting.   I quit this site because of censorship
+12 Seriously, the transactional feeling and lack of mentorship fucking blows. Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+12 MS me all you want but it doesn't mean I'm wrong No, the monkey shit doesn't mean your wrong.  The entire basis of your argument is, though. Ozymandia
+12 All I know is the hypocrisy on the left is real.  BLM can riot and burn down cities and that's OK. BBDreamin
+12 Sorry but this is a pretty weak reflection on what's been said above. Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
+12 LOL, this post!  redever
+12 Sure, enjoy 70%+ of your bonus being stock compensation that vests, ensuring that you'll be anchored to 1 company for the rest of your life. That's... not how tech comp works.. Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
+12 what's the argument for the WSB ringleaders not being geniuses?  BobbybananamA
+12 Trying to prevent even more people from losing their shirt in this fiasco? PrivatePyle
+12 I've been saying this to people all week! Associate 2 in IB-M&A
+12 If you want to trade a squeeze stock, then you should trade with a well capitalized broker, like JPM (which is also free). &n Pescepescetarian
+12 WSO vet here, and it's been just over since 10 years since I started as an analyst. The (small) analyst class 10 years later: Alt-Ctr-Left
+12 Couple of things... C8
+12 It's hard to really give a specific average. Director in IB - Cov
+12 Definitely an issue close to my heart since I was an athlete in school. I just laugh now when Democrats say they support women and are Feminist. Analyst 3+ in PE - Other
+12 What's left of my family is very tight knit (my nuclear family, relatives, etc). We do a lot together and always gather for holidays and whatnot. Nightman Cometh
+12 As others have said - this is a pretty irresponsible / misleading post.  If OP is actually a VP at a BB, which I doubt, they should have a more informed view of career tracks.  Honestly, I thought this was a Reaganing
+12 I used to do these epic cheat meals like 12 years ago when I was on that bodybuilding shit. GoldenCinderblock
+12 honestly wanted to start a thread like this, recently started in a BB and have been working like hell, the thing that hurts me the most (and i mean deeply hurt) is the weekends they destroy - i honestly wouldnt mind w Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
+12 Jane02 - I obviously don’t know your individual circumstances and can only guess at what you’ve experienced. CompBanker
+12 As per the brexit agreement: (1) FIG M&A deals will be executed by Swiss teams (2) Industrials by the German (3) Consumer, Telco and IT services by the French Associate 1 in IB - Cov
+12 I'll give you the honest answer. 3.7, 3.8 and 3.9 are practically the same. It doesn't affect your chances of interviews and once you're in the interview, those 3 GPA's don't make a difference in your chances. Bankerconsu
+12 The space in which these work conditions are allowed to exist is inherently cruel. That is banking. gufmo