Good Looks?

I think height matters more. It's been proven taller guys get paid more...but I'm short so fuck!

You ugly, deformed boy...

If you know how to make money, nobody gives a shit. If you're a run of the mill, mediocre guy then it probably will count.

yeah, agreed - height is key for some reason - get some lifts homey.

Looks are important. Wall Street tends to rewards those with classic wasp good looks. But it is possible to succeeed without them, see a picture of Bruce Wasserstein (Jewish) or Boon Sim of Credit Suisse (Asian).

you're the joker from North Dakota State aren't you with the 3.98 gpa. Either you shoudln't be writing anything because you live in NDakota and get your info on ibanking from this board and the 'dealbook' from nyt, or you're just a liar.

in either case, shut up.

awesome thread idea, it's not like we've had one with the exact same question in the last couple weeks or anything.

But why male models?

Oh and what is the starting comp for '07?

In all frankness, not that much. It's more about how well you can speak and how intelligent and commanding you can present yourself more than anything else.

How commanding you sound does help. I remember this one HLHZ guy, his tone of voice sounds like he could be a leader. He had this tone where you must do what he tells you to do.

height is not that important

i know a BUNCH of short guys that do very well on wall street!

it's all about the confidence

Did he sound like the guy with the hoodie from Star Wars ? Luke's father ?

No, he was around 5 8' and had a black mustache trimmed on the edges and hair combed to one side. He also perpetually wore a red armband with an inverted strange symbol.

So if I am 6'6" it may help my career to be more sucessful?

No, you'll just give the impression of being hulking and dumb.

I'm 6 2' and happy with it.

Bryan, why do enjoy putting others down on internet message boards? The purpose of ibankingoasis is to exchange information, that means take as well as give.

All I know is he work at the Chicago office.

Disagree, every MD I know around me is over 6 foot with a deep voice.

hope your kidding

blankfein is pretty damn short

"take as well as give"--> you've only taken and redigested information in light of your skewed understanding and then freely repackaged it to others.

Think of the implications of doing that, what if everyone did that, then I'd get the hell out of here because the board would simply become a regurgigation of other's 2nd had or 3rd had information.

"enjoy putting others down" --> look at your first post, you enjoyed putting down all the other people trying to help you. you even made a stupid statement about 'ivy league' kids. first impression sticks.

most of the comments i direct to you are well within the realm of reason, i don't diss people on this board. i nudge them to 'check themself'... so ludvig... check yourself before you break yourself.

Bryan, don't be a jerk! We're all hear to learn, if you were some bigshot you wouldn't be posting here all the time anyway.

Watch the movie wall street and look at Gekko's star trader, he's a fat slob who's being paid bank

What does this mean? Are you six years old and two feet tall? Or did you mean to write:

"I'm 6'2", and happy with it."

?

I am amazed by how insecured people are on this board. How are you going to become succesful if you don't even feel comfortable with your skin? Seriously dude, as long as you are not 5'5, who really gives a shit?

Just be yourself, shut up and work, approach everything with a positive energy you will make it someday...

You should see them discuss clothes, cars, and jewelry.

I'm five-foot-six (and a half) and never thought that height would be a problem as long as you could do your shit. This thread is starting to scare me.

stop being a pussy.. just be confident and that's it

if you worry about your height.. then so will others

I don't, and never have cared until this thread.

well fuck! I'm 5'5 ...

dude, I am really sorry. I didn't mean to offend you. I was responding to the original poster who's feelin insecured about his height...

Look at Henry Kravis... he's done ok for his height, no?

You people are hilarious.

???

Look, all the jobs represented on this forum from IB to VC, all require you to have done well in college (top 10%). Look around your college; would you say that the people who are the top 10% of your school are good-looking (or more so than the average)? The bottom line is a large proportion will have been nerds (in HS or college or whatever); as long as you don't stand out in dress and are confident, the only thing you will be judged on in terms of success is your output and the impression you leave on others.

Ludvig, I don't know what to say. Firstly a lot of Wall Street isn't white. Secondly, please don't start a "can I get in" thread and then start giving advice about something that could seriously impact someone.

Its now how tall you are standing up. It's how tall you are laying down!

lol i dont care sunlounger, i was being sarcastic ( i am 5'5 though) about being worried. no need to mention ONE guy as a sort of conselation like "well you wont get the best, but SOME have done OK" i know for a fact i dont give a shit about height and most wont either once they realize how brilliant i actually am when it comes to business.

well...hm...well, I have a 2.5 GPA, but I am brilliant in Math...once people realize it nobody will give a shit...

dude, cool down a bit...

"brilliant at business"

.....:)

Have confidence, and show it does not bother you. Who gives a fuck about a scar

Just curious, what "business" are you personally referring to?

I'm 6'2" tall...I owe ALL of my success to my height and my good looks.

seriously....

Perfection breeds Perfection

highcidity why do u keep saying that. it's not relevant and it's not true

Darealest, I keep saying that because it is a quote in my SIGNATURE...It is not SUPPOSE to be relevant to this conversation or any other.

And in my circumstance it is true...

point blank.

Perfection breeds Perfection

what a noob signature.

look at it this way there are many successful asians/indians. with a few exceptions many aren't over 6 foot. actually many aren't over 5'10". so theres always opportunity, but looks and i guess height may give good initial impressions when meeting clients, but once you start speaking all that stuff doesnt matter, its all about confidence and your skills.

damn ... always picking on the indians, and to the original post, I dont think looks matter unless your a crazy hot women that can sexualize her way to the top

Dude the key is to do sprints every day and looked ripped.

Being short and ripped is better than being tall and doughy. Sharp features. Deep voice. These are things that make good first impressions.

I'm 5'3"...guess I'm fucked

^Ouch, sorry about that but for a woman 5'3" isn't that bad, I'd call it average cause my gf's 5'4". Anyway, I'm 5'11"/6' so I don't think I'll get screwed in any way though I'm no Yao Ming/Shaq. Plus, I agree if you're smart, articulate and can handle yourself you'll be fine.