Marina Keegan's Target College Recruitment Article

For once, I am going to cut the bullshit out and speak some truth:

Somewhere in the introduction to The Big Short, Lewis explains that his intention with Liar's Poker was to drive brilliant college students away from careers in investment banking. Instead, the book became a bible about everything from training to trading for college juniors and seniors across the globe.

Think about that for a second, and it's easy to recall the pages of satire that devilishly portrayed the hire and fire mentality of Salomon Brothers, or how Lewis was realistically, and ridiculously, an unqualified 20 something year old bond "expert". I challenge you to reread the book with Lewis' intention, and you might reconsider the monkey-shit offer you have from Goldman Sachs. Okay, maybe not...

Maybe WSO is not the place, but Marina Keegan's article in DealBook left me reflecting on what we are really all doing here.. Before the shit tossing begins, read her article and seriously let me know what you think. Many in this community are at targets for a reason. Is investment banking really your purpose?

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/another-vi…

 

"They’re good at it. They’re unbelievably, remarkably, terrifyingly good at it. Every year around 25 percent of employed Yale graduates enter the consulting and finance industries."

"Standing outside a freshman dorm, I couldn’t find a single student aspiring to be a banker – but at commencement this May, there’s a 50 percent chance I’ll be sitting next to one. "

That is why she got rejected from Harvard..

 
moo2011:
"They’re good at it. They’re unbelievably, remarkably, terrifyingly good at it. Every year around 25 percent of employed Yale graduates enter the consulting and finance industries."

"Standing outside a freshman dorm, I couldn’t find a single student aspiring to be a banker – but at commencement this May, there’s a 50 percent chance I’ll be sitting next to one. "

That is why she got rejected from Harvard..

Or maybe you're an idiot...If there are two people to my right and left with a 25% chance of being a banker then there is a 50% chance a banker is next to me.....Idiot
 
jktecon:
moo2011:
"They’re good at it. They’re unbelievably, remarkably, terrifyingly good at it. Every year around 25 percent of employed Yale graduates enter the consulting and finance industries."

"Standing outside a freshman dorm, I couldn’t find a single student aspiring to be a banker – but at commencement this May, there’s a 50 percent chance I’ll be sitting next to one. "

That is why she got rejected from Harvard..

Or maybe you're an idiot...If there are two people to my right and left with a 25% chance of being a banker then there is a 50% chance a banker is next to me.....Idiot

So tell me, if there's a 70% chance that a Yale student is a banker and there are two students sitting next to me. Then there's a 140% chance there's banker next to me? Which target school are you from?

Edit: good lord! your profile says you're going for a math minor, how's that working out?

 
jktecon:
Or maybe you're an idiot...If there are two people to my right and left with a 25% chance of being a banker then there is a 50% chance a banker is next to me.....Idiot
1 - 0.750.75 = 0.250.25 + 20.250.75 = 43.75% chance of being seated next to at least one (assuming bankers aren't too cliquey ;-))

I was going to say that's why I work on a trading desk and you're at Florida Atlantic University, but actually the main issue here (which you can work on) is calling people names when you have no idea.

As for the actual article... Remember that the characters in Liar's Poker were fucking awesome and that there's nothing wrong with trying to emulate them.

 
jktecon:
moo2011:
"They’re good at it. They’re unbelievably, remarkably, terrifyingly good at it. Every year around 25 percent of employed Yale graduates enter the consulting and finance industries."

"Standing outside a freshman dorm, I couldn’t find a single student aspiring to be a banker – but at commencement this May, there’s a 50 percent chance I’ll be sitting next to one. "

That is why she got rejected from Harvard..

Or maybe you're an idiot...If there are two people to my right and left with a 25% chance of being a banker then there is a 50% chance a banker is next to me.....Idiot

I think you're joking, but just in case: The likelihood of sitting next to at least one "banker" (or really, one of the 25 percenters) is (75% * 25%) * 2 + 25%^2 = 43.75%...........

 
moo2011:
"They’re good at it. They’re unbelievably, remarkably, terrifyingly good at it. Every year around 25 percent of employed Yale graduates enter the consulting and finance industries."

"Standing outside a freshman dorm, I couldn’t find a single student aspiring to be a banker – but at commencement this May, there’s a 50 percent chance I’ll be sitting next to one. "

That is why she got rejected from Harvard..

^ LOL

But actually true. Y and P = Harvard rejects.

 

Top talent isn't even at target schools for the most part. The truly brilliant people I know were too busy making real accomplishments in life to care about Harvard. The fact is banks like people they can employ as borderline slaves, and it is indeed brilliant of them to hire out of these target schools. Thinking about it rationally, the large majority of students who ended up going to these schools did so out of conformity to what their parents and society told them to do from an early age; they are much more likely to bite the bullet and pound through the 120 hour weeks (especially if it means prestige).

Problem doesn't begin or end with that situation though. Society at large has become focused on earning capital with no regard for doing a good service in return. World economy won't be able to sustain this much longer.

 
jktecon:
. The fact is banks like people they can employ as borderline slaves

exactly, they don't want smart people. they want people who have obeyed the rules their entire life, applied to a good school like mom and dad said to, graduated, and are now ready to do work you could teach a sharp high school grad

My drinkin' problem left today, she packed up all her bags and walked away.
 
Kenny Powers:
jktecon:
. The fact is banks like people they can employ as borderline slaves

exactly, they don't want smart people. they want people who have obeyed the rules their entire life, applied to a good school like mom and dad said to, graduated, and are now ready to do work you could teach a sharp high school grad

Exactly. I was talking to a college student the other day, and he was stunned that banks would be less inclined to hire a PhD versus a BA or MBA. Throw an econ PhD into an analyst program and he'll probably shoot himself from boredom.

 
Kenny Powers:
jktecon:
. The fact is banks like people they can employ as borderline slaves

exactly, they don't want smart people. they want people who have obeyed the rules their entire life, applied to a good school like mom and dad said to, graduated, and are now ready to do work you could teach a sharp high school grad

May I refer back to a classic:

Through a Finance Club email, I received word that Lehman Brothers is recruiting juniors for its Investment Banking and Private Equity divisions. I am a graduating senior, but I feel I could offer a great deal as a Lehman intern this summer.

I have read Monkey Business, Liar’s Poker, and When Genius Failed each 3 times and consider them my collective bible. I know I have the eye for perfection and artistic vision to create truly immaculate pitch books. I am a Microsoft Certified in Excel, and I know all the shortcut keys (alt-i then r, that will insert a new row). Furthermore, I consider myself a whiz with numbers. I know I would be able to build robust models and complete precise calculations for Lehman Brothers.

Most importantly, however, I want to stress how willing I am to do “anything for the team.” I realize the possibility of long hours exists in such a position, and I am ready to work as hard as necessary. I have been practicing staring at a computer monitor for extended hours, I can currently sit motionless in front of a screen for 28 hours, and I am improving daily.

I appreciate you taking the time to review my application and hope you indeed “go to bat” for me. Please contact me with any further questions you may have at [email protected].

Sincerely, Tim Smith

 
jktecon:
Top talent isn't even at target schools for the most part. The truly brilliant people I know were too busy making real accomplishments in life to care about Harvard.

That is what I tell my dad every time he asks why he paid so much for me to go to high school, and so little to go to college. Beer Pong is my talent, so naturally I attended a top 10 party school. While all you 'overachievers' go to Harvard and Princeton, true Americans like me grind it out at state universities to produce tangible value for society.

All I care about in life is accumulating bananas
 

I don't see how that article could make the dealbook. Despite how cliche this sounds, people go to mgmt consulting/ib because of the rigorous training and challenges, the exposure, the smart people you work with, the exit opportunities. All of those can set you up for great future endeavors. Public good? You can only do public good if you have the means, and who do you think will contribute to the society more? An English major working for a NGO/magazine or an affluent, successful businessman/woman donating money and setting up foundations for good cause?

Call me biased, but unless you're an aspiring and committed entrepreneur, I firmly believe consulting/ib is the best first job, not because of the money, but because of the learning and network that will send you to bigger and better place. And you are more capable of helping the society when you're at that place/position.

My formula for success is rise early, work late and strike oil - JP Getty
 

She is an idiot. So sorry Marina that you are being picked on by those evil banks... taking you out to dinner and making you eat fancy popcorn. Must be a tough fucking life.

Her idea of being a productive citizen of this world is going to your local food bank and feeding the homeless every day. My idea of being a productive citizen is creating the next fucking Microsoft.

Who do you think does more good for the world?

 

I am so fucking sick of reading stuff like this. I love how the idea that working for a bank is only "probably" not inherently evil. What? So there is a significant chance that it is? How many times will I have to endure someone claiming that bank does nothing of value? She admitted she does not know what a hedge fund does. Why then does she feel entitled to comment on its value?

The article is just riddled with ridiculous lines like: "I got this uneasy feeling that the man in the beautiful suit was going to take my Hopes and Dreams back to some lab to figure out the best way to crush them."

and: "That’s a lot of talent and energy and potential that could be used somewhere other than crunching numbers to generate wealth." huh? What would you rather they do than generate wealth? Camp out in Zuccotti park?

 
The Man:
I am so fucking sick of reading stuff like this. I love how the idea that working for a bank is only "probably" not inherently evil. What? So there is a significant chance that it is? How many times will I have to endure someone claiming that bank does nothing of value? She admitted she does not know what a hedge fund does. Why then does she feel entitled to comment on its value?

The article is just riddled with ridiculous lines like: "I got this uneasy feeling that the man in the beautiful suit was going to take my Hopes and Dreams back to some lab to figure out the best way to crush them."

and: "That’s a lot of talent and energy and potential that could be used somewhere other than crunching numbers to generate wealth." huh? What would you rather they do than generate wealth? Camp out in Zuccotti park?

Do you lack comprehension skills or do you always jump to conclusions from a glance? Not once does she say that banks are an unnecessary evil in capitalism. She rightfully points out that for a sector that lacks any meaningful production it has grown exponentially beyond the system that supports it. Does the idea of a 150% increase in job growth of the accounting field sound like an economic boost to you? How about if they hand tax forms to each other and trade them one for another and outsiders have the right to go long on 1040's based on the likelihood the employee pays his taxes in 6 months.

Useless services have been added in along the way to help induce the growth of the sector, and no that is not beneficial.

 

Not everyone who makes it into a banking or consulting job, and not everyone who goes to a Harvard or Yale for that matter, has the potential to be out there 'changing the world'.

Why is it assumed that banks lure away so many bright minds who would otherwise have been future engineers or star medical researchers? Obviously it does happen, but to what extent? I'd say that if you are so easily swayed by things like prestige or who has the fanciest popcorn then you weren't that passionate about those altruistic goals of yours in the first place.

 

this is a well-written article, and it courageously attempts to make a case for "following your dream". but marina has never lived in the real world, so I can't take her all that seriously. when you start struggling to make ends meet, you are not thinking, "well even though I can barely afford food today, I am at least happy I am doing what I love." you're actually saying, "fuck my life, i'm about to starve."

as we enter into the real world, we are all mugged by reality. jobs at an entry-level position suck for the most part, and you feel you are wasting your brain cells much of the time. I also think it is human nature to want to be perceived as successful. success obviously means different things to different people, and not all of us are solely - or mostly - motivated by money. but the overwhelming majority talk about others success in monetary terms, and whether we like it or not, it has a sub-conscious effect on each of us.

and while making perfectly aligned pitchbooks may not by a super valuable skill elsewhere, being able to analyze and value a business is an excellent skill that you cannot just get anywhere. trust me.

lastly, i think many people in finance or consulting truly enjoy what they do (granted many are there for just the money). but in industries where the turnover rate is incredibly high, those that truly enjoy what they do are able to figure out a way to stay there for the long-haul.

the author closes by saying, "That’s a lot of talent and energy and potential that could be used somewhere other than crunching numbers to generate wealth." she is still too naive to understand that it's that generation of wealth that has allowed her to be where she is today.

Capitalist
 
MrJetSet:
How else is this chick going to "contribute" to the world with her English major?

I don't mind her English major, I kinda think that JK Rowling has probably one of the greatest contributions to the world of children/young adult literature. But yeah, this article just doesn't make sense.

My formula for success is rise early, work late and strike oil - JP Getty
 
Best Response

Of course Investment banking is no one's purpose. I think people underestimate how hard it is to figure out the purpose of your existence, and what was meant to be your life's work. And even once you figure that out, it's still extremely hard to pursue that. So for most people, they rationalize and take that job with high pay and prestige - and there is nothing wrong with that - its just really hard to turn away from it when all the other smart people you know are doing it and you say that it can't be that bad. And then you begin convince yourself that you really do love your job and become so good at tearing arguments like the one Marina is giving. I think its important that the decisions you make were actually well-thought out and internalized by you and not by other people. The day that changed my life was the day I realized that this was actually my life, and no one was going to do it for me, and no one else really had a say in how I live it.

 
pacman22:
Of course Investment banking is no one's purpose. I think people underestimate how hard it is to figure out the purpose of your existence, and what was meant to be your life's work. And even once you figure that out, it's still extremely hard to pursue that. So for most people, they rationalize and take that job with high pay and prestige - and there is nothing wrong with that - its just really hard to turn away from it when all the other smart people you know are doing it and you say that it can't be that bad. And then you begin convince yourself that you really do love your job and become so good at tearing arguments like the one Marina is giving. I think its important that the decisions you make were actually well-thought out and internalized by you and not by other people. The day that changed my life was the day I realized that this was actually my life, and no one was going to do it for me, and no one else really had a say in how I live it.

Absolutely. 100%. True.

 
pacman22:
Of course Investment banking is no one's purpose. I think people underestimate how hard it is to figure out the purpose of your existence, and what was meant to be your life's work. And even once you figure that out, it's still extremely hard to pursue that. So for most people, they rationalize and take that job with high pay and prestige - and there is nothing wrong with that - its just really hard to turn away from it when all the other smart people you know are doing it and you say that it can't be that bad. And then you begin convince yourself that you really do love your job and become so good at tearing arguments like the one Marina is giving. I think its important that the decisions you make were actually well-thought out and internalized by you and not by other people. The day that changed my life was the day I realized that this was actually my life, and no one was going to do it for me, and no one else really had a say in how I live it.

Now, that was deep.

 

My question is how many jobs right out of college allow one to be "contributing, creating or improving much of anything?"

Unless you have the resources and guts to go out on your own to create something new, it is pretty unlikely. Yes, there are ways to give back through various non-profits and volunteer opportunities (I participated in several back when I was an analyst), but the reality is that most recent graduates have to find a way to pay the bills. Is going to work in an entry level job in engineering, accounting, marketing, etc. going to be that much more productive?

Most people will never make any real impact in life (at least on a broad section of the population). Is going to work as a reporter at the NY Times helping people any more than a banking analyst does? At least the analyst can afford to pay rent without mommy and daddy's help.

 
  • If you guys think there aren't too many people working in financial services, I'm not sure what world you are living in

  • The author makes the point that we are the children from the 60s & 70s counterrevolution. That is a fat pile of shit unless your parents are northeastern DNC donors. Then it might be true.

  • She has never worked in financial services, but knows that they are inherently bad. That is logically inconsistent.

  • Either way, she is blowing the issue out of proportion, but to deny that Wall Street has ever employed someone who was better off being an engineer, teacher (Khan Academy comes to mind immediately), and so on is equally delusional.

There is nothing wrong with being a broke ass poet, but don't cry to me when you go to a school that has a number of on campus career opportunities, international recognition, and world class facilities at your disposal to prepare yourself for damn near any career path you may think of. Also, the number of senior employees in financial services come from a varying number of schools, so even though her blood sucking classmates might leach at a TARP infused bank for 0-5 years, they won't make the cut for the long haul. Something like 3% of graduate hires become MDs. That game is a crap shoot regardless of academic pedigree.

 

I was just having a conversation with a friend about this over dinner the other day. Basically, we decided that you only get a goob 65-70 years on this earth (under 5 and over 70 don't count) and it's your job to do whatever you want to make yourself happy. If you want to be a banker and have the potential to make those billions then go for it. If you want to pursue science, industry, or be an entrepreneur than go for it. As long as you aren't doing anything illegal and you are pursuing what you want to pursue then go for it.

Should we force kids to pursue science/engineering/math/tech? Granted, I think we have a lot more people looking at consulting/finance than should be, but is that really their fault? When you are guaranteed $75k out of college with a lot more upside, it's incredibly tempting. Don't hate the people, hate the game. Stop giving banks the bailouts and tax breaks, let the market decide how many people should be working in finance. Don't let anyone tell you what you should or shouldn't be doing.

 

I don’t think it’s a great article but it is alarming to see how many students enter finance. We enter into a schooling system that charges a ridiculous amount of money and then in order to pay off that debt we enter a high paying job we don’t like. It’s all just really stupid. You can’t get a solid education without getting into debt and when it comes time to pay it back you can’t find work you love because it won’t allow you to pay it off.

The problem is that young minds who actually have the capability to change the world aren’t entering fields where viable change is possible. While we are all obsessed with the great traders and private equity managers we all have to search deep to find reasons why they are valuable. Unfortunately most of us on this board have a dismissive attitude about “broke poets” and “English majors”. Most of us are adding no real value and not even pursuing something that interests us all for the sake of “money and a good life”. When you’re on your death bed see how much this crap means to you and how much you wish you would’ve chased a dream you had or actually made some positive change on the world. Donating $5 million after a 35 year career is only going to give you a small bit of satisfaction. Actually doing what you love would allow you to really see what you are capable of and how great a difference you can make.

It’s sad that we are not able to pursue our goals with true freedom and that is why so few really break through and have an effect on the world. I don’t think it is because it is so hard for an individual to do so but the burdensome nature and effect of society cause a real lack of trying.

 
FlySoHigh:
I don’t think it’s a great article but it is alarming to see how many students enter finance. We enter into a schooling system that charges a ridiculous amount of money and then in order to pay off that debt we enter a high paying job we don’t like. It’s all just really stupid. You can’t get a solid education without getting into debt and when it comes time to pay it back you can’t find work you love because it won’t allow you to pay it off.

The problem is that young minds who actually have the capability to change the world aren’t entering fields where viable change is possible. While we are all obsessed with the great traders and private equity managers we all have to search deep to find reasons why they are valuable. Unfortunately most of us on this board have a dismissive attitude about “broke poets” and “English majors”. Most of us are adding no real value and not even pursuing something that interests us all for the sake of “money and a good life”. When you’re on your death bed see how much this crap means to you and how much you wish you would’ve chased a dream you had or actually made some positive change on the world. Donating $5 million after a 35 year career is only going to give you a small bit of satisfaction. Actually doing what you love would allow you to really see what you are capable of and how great a difference you can make.

It’s sad that we are not able to pursue our goals with true freedom and that is why so few really break through and have an effect on the world. I don’t think it is because it is so hard for an individual to do so but the burdensome nature and effect of society cause a real lack of trying.

Kids graduating from these kinds of school either A) can afford to go there or B) have their tuition subsidized through grants. Few kids are having to take out any substantial amounts of debt. Additionally, who are you to determine that people who go into banking don't want to be bankers and they are doing it just for the love of money? So what, if that's what you want to do, more power to ya. I never understood this argument that everyone needs to change the world. We can't ALL be Steve Jobs / Bill Gates. Someone needs to be the engineers to actually design the stuff, bankers to provide the investment backing, janitors to clean the buildings, electricians to wire the buildings, etc. etc. etc. I hate this assumption that if a person, especially from a top school, does not go into science / technology they are automatically a detriment to society and provide no real value. It takes EVERYONE. I'm not saying it's perfect, but your Utopian image of a world filled with Steve Jobs' is impossible, sorry to say.

 
FutureBanker09:
http://yaledemocrats.com/?page_id=3

Let me be the first to say, I'd hit it while wearing an Obama mask

Off topic I know, but reading the biographies on that page makes me realise why the Dems seem to be so fucked in the States. My personal favourite: "When she’s not attending Master’s Teas, admiring the stained glass windows in the Sterling Library, or devouring history books, she enjoys going on long walks around New Haven." Where do they find these people?

Full disclosure: I'm a liberal, although an embarassed one after reading that.

 
Oirish:
FutureBanker09:
http://yaledemocrats.com/?page_id=3

Let me be the first to say, I'd hit it while wearing an Obama mask

Off topic I know, but reading the biographies on that page makes me realise why the Dems seem to be so fucked in the States. My personal favourite: "When she’s not attending Master’s Teas, admiring the stained glass windows in the Sterling Library, or devouring history books, she enjoys going on long walks around New Haven." Where do they find these people?

Full disclosure: I'm a liberal, although an embarassed one after reading that.

Completely get what you mean. I'm a right-leaning democrat (social liberal, fiscal conservative) and some of the people at my politically active Ivy just never cease to surprise me. Haha, you should see some of the ridiculous demonstrations they put on every week!

 

Yet another typical, condescending, "my occupation can beat up your occupation" that drips of the same elitist garbage that Wall Street is accused of on a daily basis.

Pass the Kool-Aid, Marina.

Metal. Music. Life. www.headofmetal.com
 

Writing quality = poor Content = weak Argument = fail

P(Argument Fail) = 1

"When I was young I thought that money was the most important thing in life; now that I am old I know that it is." - Oscar Wilde "Seriously, psychology is for those with two x chromosomes." - RagnarDanneskjold
 

Hahaha, I was just going to write about how her probability skills needed work. Thanks for clearing this up already.

This article is retarded. I love how she kept bringing up art and music -- lets talk about the probabilities of making an "positive impact" in those communities.

She needs to drop her idea that recent college graduates are going to be doing anything but number crunching, or something like it, for their first jobs. So pretentious.

 

All I can say is that I am glad that she wrote this. I'd even donate to her cause. If someone thinks they can contribute to society by weaving baskets for a living - all the power to them. If they can persuade some kids at target schools who don't know what to do with their lives that basket weaving is the most noble occupation - more power to them.

These hippies should go and weave baskets, and not take the space in a bank/consulting firm/corporation while hating the world because of it. There are a lot of people who want to and deserve to get into a bank/consulting firm/corporation, but don't have the positions handed to them on a silver platter. These people will benefit if Marina gets more followers. Basket weavers will benefit too - how can you ever be happy working in a bank if basket weaving is the most important thing in the world to you?

 
blastoise:
I want to be the very best, like no one ever was.

I believe in you blastoise.

"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."
 
<span class=keyword_link><a href=//www.wallstreetoasis.com/blog/marina-keegans-target-college-recruitment-article>Marina Keegan</a></span>:
But the fact that such a large percentage of students at top-tier schools enter an industry that isn’t contributing, creating or improving much of anything saddens me.

Come on, we are a service economy. On a per capita basis, bankers do a ton more than the average engineer. Joe Engineer doesn't build bridges; he makes slight modifications to an existing plan in a CAD software package, then does busywork.

Would these kids be curing cancer if not for IB? No, they would probably be doing consulting, law, accounting or gasp working for a f500. Science doesn't pay well. It really never has. The odds of any individual making a breakthrough are miniscule; even if they do, it intellectual property belongs to their employer.

Does she really believe that somebody on an assembly contributes more to society than a banker, just because they make something tangible? Without a banker underwriting that company's IPO, that job wouldn't exist.

<span class=keyword_link><a href=//www.wallstreetoasis.com/blog/marina-keegans-target-college-recruitment-article>Marina Keegan</a></span>:
I think most young, ambitious people want to have a positive impact on the world. Whether it’s through art or activism or advances in science, almost every student I spoke to had some kind of larger, altruistic goal in life. But what I heard again and again was that working at JPMorgan or Bain or Morgan Stanley was the best way to prepare oneself for a future doing public good.

No, this is what they tell an English major. Possibly an English major they want to get lucky with. We work for banks because it will eventually let us maximize our per hour compensation. I don't think anyone with life experience holds onto the "save the world" mentality for long...it's enough to make sure your own family is taken care of.

Regardless of all the stuff you hear in college, you are not going to change the system. Try changing a process at the DMV. You will likely fail. Even if you become President, you still are not going to change the way this country works.

It sounds cynical, but it is how life is. You can either bemoan the loss of American manufacturing, the injustice of inequality, and the dysfunction of our political system...or you can focus on making the lives of the people you care about better.

 

I am part of the whole Yale thing. This Keegan chick and I probably know some of the same people since I didn't matriculate that long ago, so I could do some digging but why bother? My guess is she's from a privileged background, probably a legacy, and being able to attend Yale was a fait accompli.

Some of us have to hustle our way through public schools and don't have mommies and daddies who can pick up the phone and call some old school friends to put in a good word for us. I don't begrudge people who grew up that way--that's the way I want my kids to grow up if I ever stop working a million hours a week and start a family. When some English major whose fam wrote a cheque for their tuition starts player hating this way it makes me sick though.

I chose Yale because it was a target, because its programs were rigorous, and because it is a place where someone like me, who was 18 years behind people like her in social networking the day I hit campus can make the kinds of contacts that give me the chance to fully actualize my potential.

 

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