From MF Credit (BX/APO/Bain) → Special Sits or HF — What’s the Smartest Move Now?

I’m heading into my 2nd year on a liquid credit seat at a MF (BX/APO/Bain). I enjoy the work, but I’m looking to expand my exposure. I’m especially interested in moving to a special sits or opportunistic credit team with a flexible mandate — to see a broader range of deals and build a more versatile skill set.

Long-term, I’m focused on the hedge fund path — either credit or equity. Would love to hear thoughts on:

1. Best associate-level seats for learning and mentorship today — I am familiar with a few of the major platforms — BX Tac Opps, ASOF, Silver Point, Sixth Street, Oaktree, etc. — but would appreciate updated color or ranking on those, especially in terms of deal flow, junior exposure, culture, and exits. I'm also curious about whether there are any under-the-radar teams or newer platforms worth watching.

2. For those who went to a HF earlier in their careers, would you recommend it — or was it better to get the reps on a structured team first?

3. My team runs a small equity book, and I’ve enjoyed looking at names through both a credit and equity lens. Curious how realistic it is to pivot into L/S equity after a special sits stint, and what’s the best way to start prepping now?

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To make the smartest move from a liquid credit seat at a megafund (BX/APO/Bain) to special situations or hedge funds, here’s what you need to know:

1. Best Associate-Level Seats for Learning and Mentorship

  • Apollo Hybrid Value (HV): Known for its focus on "hairier" minority equity deals and mezzanine-type investments. It offers strong deal flow and exposure to creative, structured transactions. The Apollo platform and recent returns make it a top-tier choice, though its mandate is somewhat limited by Apollo's PE and credit arms.
  • Oaktree Special Situations: A solid seat with a focus on middle-market distressed-for-control situations. Historically strong returns, though not the flagship fund at Oaktree. Great for building distressed and restructuring expertise.
  • BX Tac Opps: While still a strong brand, BX Tac Opps has seen its mandate shrink due to the growth of other BX businesses. It’s a catch-all for deals that don’t fit neatly into other groups, which can be both a strength and a limitation.
  • Sixth Street Strategic Capital: A lean team relative to AUM, offering strong exposure to opportunistic and creative deals. Comparable to Bain Special Sits or Tac Opps but slightly less prestigious than Apollo HV or Oaktree.
  • Silver Point: A strong name in distressed and special situations, with a focus on credit fundamentals. It’s a great platform for mentorship and technical development.
  • Under-the-Radar Teams: Keep an eye on Brookfield Special Investments and KPS for distressed turnaround private equity. These are less talked about but offer unique opportunities in their niches.

2. HF vs. Structured Team First

  • Structured Team First: Most WSO threads emphasize the value of starting on a structured team like Apollo HV, Oaktree, or BX Tac Opps. These platforms provide rigorous training, exposure to complex deals, and mentorship that can be hard to replicate at a hedge fund early on. Building a strong foundation in credit fundamentals, restructuring, and opportunistic investing will make you a more competitive candidate for top hedge funds later.
  • Early HF Move: While less common, some analysts have successfully transitioned directly to hedge funds, especially if they’ve developed strong technical skills and a clear investment thesis. However, hedge funds often expect you to hit the ground running, so the learning curve can be steep without prior experience in a flexible mandate team.

3. Pivoting to L/S Equity

  • Realistic Path: Moving from special situations to L/S equity is possible but not the most common route. The transition is easier if you’ve already developed a dual credit-equity lens, as you mentioned. Many distressed or opportunistic credit professionals have successfully pivoted to L/S equity, especially at funds with a credit-equity crossover focus (e.g., Tiger Cubs or multi-strats).
  • Preparation Tips:
    • Start building a track record of equity pitches alongside your credit work.
    • Focus on understanding equity valuation, catalysts, and how credit insights can inform equity investments.
    • Network with professionals in L/S equity to understand the nuances of the role and hiring process.

Final Thoughts:

If your long-term goal is a hedge fund career, starting at a top-tier special situations or opportunistic credit team is the smartest move. Apollo HV, Oaktree, and Sixth Street stand out for their deal flow, mentorship, and exit opportunities. Use this time to deepen your technical skills, broaden your deal exposure, and build a network that can support your eventual transition to a hedge fund or L/S equity role.

Sources: Special Situations Investing (BX, Apollo, Ares), Current Thoughts on Opportunistic/Special Sits Groups (Oaktree Special Sits, BX TacOpps, Apollo Hybrid Value Fund, Brookfield Special Investments, KKR Special Sits), MF PC to HF, Special Sits, Something Else, Best L/S Credit HF Seats, MF Credit vs. MS/GS SA 2023 Offer

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I did distressed/special sits out of college for few yrs and switched to equities

  1. You have to figure out if you want to do distressed on the public side or private side - different lifestyle, different deal approach. Once you make that decision, where you want to go kinda shakes itself out. If you go with the public side, you're optimizing for two things as a junior - exposure to as many situations as possible and being as close to risk taking as you can get. When I was starting off, my peers all wanted to work at King Street, Anchorage, Silver Point, etc. - now you see Diameter, Arini, etc. There's a new flavor every few yrs, but the highest convexity focused shops are the most fun. I don't have any experience with private distressed buyouts / crossover teams, but public side is more fun imo - faster paced way to play out your theses, returns are less fee/structuring based, faster promotion structure, risk-based upside to pay. Regardless, wouldn't optimize for exits - this is the exit. If you love markets, this is what you want to do for life.
  2. Starting on the buyside working with the smartest people the earliest as possible is the best way to learn, but also the best way to get paid above street. The closer you are to a risk taking seat and the more responsibility you take upfront the better. The way you learn is by pitching to your PM and being told you're wrong. If you can't stomach being told you're wrong, then private markets probably the way to go.
  3. It's easy to switch to equities out of distressed special sits - it takes a bit of time to find a good equities seat though (e.g. nice single managers). I've made the switch and a handful of my friends have. Once you've seen every situation, you naturally want to take more risk and again go for highest convexity. That can be bonds trading at 20c or equities in levered cap structures, etc. Equities generally pay more than credit. More blow up risk though. I will also say, credit guys are terrible at managing equity books but are ridiculously arrogant about their ability to do so. If you want to learn equities, do it at a shop that is known for equities. If you want to do credit, do it at a shop that does credit. Very few shops are good at both.
 

Great advice. For the newer kids, the nuance here is that convexity doesn’t just mean highest upside in a trade. It’s the ratio between upside and downside capture (ie limited loss, equity/equity-like upside). Notice the 2 examples he chose: 20c bonds and levered equities. Both are essentially call options where the distance to zero is quite narrow but the opportunity to make multiples on your money if you are right is very real (your job to figure out how it gets there). It’s much more fun to price call options than sold puts. 

 

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