From MF Credit (BX/APO/Bain) → Special Sits or HF — What’s the Smartest Move Now?
I’m heading into my 2nd year on a liquid credit seat at a MF (BX/APO/Bain). I enjoy the work, but I’m looking to expand my exposure. I’m especially interested in moving to a special sits or opportunistic credit team with a flexible mandate — to see a broader range of deals and build a more versatile skill set.
Long-term, I’m focused on the hedge fund path — either credit or equity. Would love to hear thoughts on:
1. Best associate-level seats for learning and mentorship today — I am familiar with a few of the major platforms — BX Tac Opps, ASOF, Silver Point, Sixth Street, Oaktree, etc. — but would appreciate updated color or ranking on those, especially in terms of deal flow, junior exposure, culture, and exits. I'm also curious about whether there are any under-the-radar teams or newer platforms worth watching.
2. For those who went to a HF earlier in their careers, would you recommend it — or was it better to get the reps on a structured team first?
3. My team runs a small equity book, and I’ve enjoyed looking at names through both a credit and equity lens. Curious how realistic it is to pivot into L/S equity after a special sits stint, and what’s the best way to start prepping now?
To make the smartest move from a liquid credit seat at a megafund (BX/APO/Bain) to special situations or hedge funds, here’s what you need to know:
1. Best Associate-Level Seats for Learning and Mentorship
2. HF vs. Structured Team First
3. Pivoting to L/S Equity
Final Thoughts:
If your long-term goal is a hedge fund career, starting at a top-tier special situations or opportunistic credit team is the smartest move. Apollo HV, Oaktree, and Sixth Street stand out for their deal flow, mentorship, and exit opportunities. Use this time to deepen your technical skills, broaden your deal exposure, and build a network that can support your eventual transition to a hedge fund or L/S equity role.
Sources: Special Situations Investing (BX, Apollo, Ares), Current Thoughts on Opportunistic/Special Sits Groups (Oaktree Special Sits, BX TacOpps, Apollo Hybrid Value Fund, Brookfield Special Investments, KKR Special Sits), MF PC to HF, Special Sits, Something Else, Best L/S Credit HF Seats, MF Credit vs. MS/GS SA 2023 Offer
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I did distressed/special sits out of college for few yrs and switched to equities
Great advice. For the newer kids, the nuance here is that convexity doesn’t just mean highest upside in a trade. It’s the ratio between upside and downside capture (ie limited loss, equity/equity-like upside). Notice the 2 examples he chose: 20c bonds and levered equities. Both are essentially call options where the distance to zero is quite narrow but the opportunity to make multiples on your money if you are right is very real (your job to figure out how it gets there). It’s much more fun to price call options than sold puts.
Would you recommend equities or distressed/SS for someone in equities with non distressed credit background?
You should prioritize what you want and what will make you happy. Getting into anything is possible with effort, but going to a distressed fund with no credit exp is an uphill battle. I can't really tell you exerting that effort is worth it since that's up to you.
Extremely helpful! Do you mind if I PM you?
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Have you ever considered the Growth Equity/Late-stage VC, which sits in the middle of sourcing, industry knowledge and financial modeling?
would you consider Elliot of the “elite at both”?
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congrats on bain
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Anybody have any insight into P72 / Charlesbank and their SS groups?
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