Lately, I've become skeptical about many news sites, feeling like articles are either biased or pushing some sort of agenda. Felt this way for a while about the traditional news sites like cnn/fox. Oftentimes I think various news sites are either disseminating propaganda or full of random topics I don’t have interest in reading.
I'm looking for news sources that are reliable and objective, but ideally more relevant to business. Anyone have any recs?
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Lol I used to subscribe to newsletters but now have unsubscribed from all of them. Some of these consist of 1 journalist writing a bunch of content and commentary and spamming it into your inbox every morning
Yeah fk that - all goes into my spam box
Can't go wrong with BBG & FT
FT has some biases but they're pretty plain to see and opinion articles are very obvious and disclosed clearly.
BBG is amazing.
BBC is also amazing for general world news.
what is BBG ? furiously trying to goolge but all I get is "Brooklyn Botanical Gardens" or some real estate title company in my region.
What does BBC stand for? Haven't heard of this one
Some biases? FT has turned into a full time climate change crisis publication. Their commentariat is worth more than any of the moronic articles. Extremely disappointed in their direction the last 5 years and unsub’d
I still read the WSJ but am not naive to its bias, albeit less overall bias than NYT, WaPo, and other newspapers. I do enjoy Reuters too though. I find them to be pretty good and they have a good app. 2nd the FT and BBG.
What is BBG?
Bloomberg
Big Black Gangsta
it's a newsletter from the hood covering topics as who's house got drive-byed, the best chicken around the corner, what supermarkets got robbed (the hood equivalent of takeover), etc.
Hm sounds like you're quite familiar with the above, u from the hood?
Applause, creative and not where I assumed someone would go given the "what does BBC stand for" question. That is well done.
Moving back to the joke side of things, there's a taco truck in my neighborhood named "Gallo Negro." As awesome as it always smells I just can't bring myself to taste the gallo negro tacos.
What’s the name? Didn’t find it on google
What’s the name of the newsletter? Can’t find it on google
Why not create a hood themed newspaper
I am tired of reading even Bloomberg news
Why are you getting tired of reading bbg news?
He just wakes up angry at everything I think
all you need is WSJ. and whatever industry specific newsites there are relevant to your coverage
I feel the quality of the WSJ has gone down. Ive been reading it daily for 4 years now and all it is these days are paid/sponsored articles or stories that come out 2-3 days later than they should be. I do like trolling all the Trumpers in the comments tho.
OP have you tried international news channels? I started watching CNA (Singapore), DW (German), & Al Jazeera (Qatari). Interesting to get different perspectives from around the world. They have multiple experts that do in-depth discussions (think 30min+) on topics. Not just talking heads trying to hit all the bullet points before their 5 min segment is over for commercial break.
I like AJ and DW. CNA is OK, I think.
I like Reuters, I find their homepage always has good coverage of top events and market moving news
Same here
I have been reading the FT for years now. It definitely has a solid financial focus and has very interesting pieces and breaking news stories (i.e. Wirecard). However, as my financial understanding has grown, I have come to find some of the pieces to be very superficial and often downright wrong or disingenuous. I have resorted to reading the comment section where the FT subscriber base (generally well-educated) often corrects the article and provides much more interesting info. While one of the better options out there, I have become increasingly disillusioned and have started to question my pricey subscription.
There is a journalism paradox called the Gell-Mann Amnesia affect which is:
“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”
I find this happening to me frequently and have begun to question the validity of what I am reading. I am now looking to find more in-depth, substantiated financial news beyond the FT to keep learning more about finance and interesting current events, however, am unsure where to look.
Does anyone have any ideas? Does anyone follow any blogs or more curated websites that you would recommend?
Thanks!
The Economist
second the comments on FT, they're def more interesting than the articles
I agree with the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect you describe.
I also find it’s common to see an article or paper written fairly straightforward with commentery at the bottom to be a load of nonsense or have severely biased opinions toward one direction or another
There are other instances where the article has numerous inaccuracies or lacks all the relevant info, and the commentary below is also full of inaccuracies
Can you provide any examples of FT articles in recent times that have been downright wrong/disingenuous? I'm asking out of curiosity as a long-time FT reader
Depending on the style of journalism that you prefer, there are (in my opinion) only two financial papers in the world: FT and WSJ. The others are a vague imitation of those and less interesting.
The Economist (again, is a personal view) is one of the best newspaper to NOT understand what is going on in the world, or if you prefer take 90% of the opposite of what is written there and if you are an informed person… I’ve been a subscriber of Economist few years ago, maybe it has changed since so I let you judge by yourself
I recommend to read FT and WSJ but
1) remember that almost all the journalists in the world are paid by someone (and they align their view accordingly)
2) try to read opinion pieces, so you already know that (since it’s a subjective view) you may have errors or others blunders and it is totally fine
I agree with you on the comment section of the FT, often you find gold nuggets and you can still keep the hope that people are smarter than what you thought
Crains New York is my favorite for New York centered business news. It’s not gonna cover acquisitions like WSJ might but it gives me a sense of what’s going on and I find it well written, to the point. I enjoy it
You can find people who know what they are talking about on Twitter and just follow them. Most news is propaganda now.
if you mostly use bloomberg/research/podcasts for your news - you’ll quickly start to realize how unreadable CNN/WashPo/Fox(god forbid)/NYT(they write ok local stuff) is. CNBC isn’t completely terrible
traditional news media makes money thru reader subs and ads. and now they’re technically competing with social media (tiktik! instagram!) for our attention and corporate ad budgets. so basically they only write things that confirm your existing biases (unlike the former which goal is to inform or challenge it - maybe generate dialogue) or pander to dummies (kinda like politics!)
i stopped watching/reading mainstream media YEARS ago. even wsj/barrons are often too wordy, not up-to-date and aren’t the most insightful and new stations i mentioned above probably will make you stupid over time lol
Hey can you please recommend me some good podcasts to listen to for the news? I’ve been listening to All-in which is great, but I would love to hear some of your favorites. Feel like we have similar outlooks towards mainstream media
I read the economist pretty religiously, but strictly the weekly hardcover issue and not online. While not very finance focused it does give you a good overview what happens around the world on a week to week basis.
I read The Economist weekly one summer when I was 18 (probably at the suggestion of this website) and knew generally what was going on in world politics for like 8 years. It is biased toward neoliberalism (with each article ending with some English zinger conclusion) but still great. Just listen to editors picks in Podcasts nowadays.
Economist (print)
BBC, DW and Japan Times. I'll try the Singapore source suggested above.
FT is good (Alphaville), but oftentimes superficial. I tried aljazeera but did not glue.
Bloomberg and/or Reuters if I have the time
I spend about 20 minutes in the morning scanning the headlines A List, B List, and International....check in on the dumdum sources once a week to see what the muppets on fox/cnn are paid to say.
Most "news" is just updates of shit we already know about so there's generally no need to read whole articles. For macro analysis and world affairs, the dumbest thing you can do is take any one publication's word for it....there's no one golden source, no one knows everything, and everyone comes at it from a different angle. The more information sources you look for, the better you can triangulate what's actually going on.
A LIST
B LIST
INTERNATIONAL PERSPECTIVE
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PROPAGANDA
WORTHLESS
No WSJ?
Personally, I haven’t cared what WSJ has to say since the takeover. Heresy, I know.
It’s like Newscorp put BBG and FOX in a blender and all the gross chunks that float to the top are now called WSJ, worthless propaganda.
And I’m realizing this comment was much harsher than I originally intended but meh
You mislabeled this list. Propaganda is the classification of ALL news orgs.
No argument there, especially in america where newspapers literally originated as political propaganda.
Some are less useless than others these days, however.
Ranking TikTok (rampant misinformation by idiot teenagers), The Hill (DC gossip rag), Russian Times (literal propaganda), and China Daily (literal propaganda) over the BBC, NBC, and the NY Times is...certainly a take.
As a hypothetical, it’s more useful to see exactly what the Russians themselves are saying rather than what the Times says they’re saying….savvy?
You might want to swap out BILD for something like Zeit Online or FZ or DW... BILD is close to something like The Sun. You'll get laughed out the room if you mention you read BILD in Germany for "perspective" lmao
I have felt this way for years.
I really like Bloomberg and Ground News.
Ground news is very straight forward and unbiased, it actually rates each article and source for political slant.
Ground News:
https://ground.news
Interesting, I’ve been wondering about that site - is their metric simply the number of outlets in either side of the isle talking about a topic? I give them credit for tracking that stuff but don’t really have much insight into a) what value it adds and b) what their definition is for right/left in the first place.
Like for example no one on the left cares about Hunter Biden but the right has been grinding that axe since the trump years…but so what, what does that tell us about the actual story? And how are they accounting for the views of mainstream democrats ve actual leftists in that interpretation, or say, libertarians vs MAGA republicans? How are they positioning this?
Not arguing, just asking
Subscribe to Foreign Affairs
Very good return on intellectual capital ROIC
The Economist is my personal favorite, but it has a mild classical liberal/globalist bias.
When you say "liberal" do you mean the economic definition of that word (in which case—what precisely is the definition of that?) or the typical political meaning?
In this case it is both, at least in the context of the US political system.
Both, if you're American. The economist is classically liberal. It is a right wing magazine in the UK, as it is certainly pro-capitalist, but it would be a left wing magazine if it was USA based.
DW is one of the top mainstream news IMO and I am not even German
i hate the news!
ive been getting my news from the onion the past few years - terrific source, highly recommend.
I have stopped getting news from anything that calls itself a news org. I know 10x more about the world now.
Lol how
I source primary data and information. What is "news" is simply just a pre filtered secondary modified source of primary information. Why should I care about what some airhead in the NYT thinks about some new social complaint when what I actually care about is the state of iron ore extraction globally? 95% of the crap you get from the news is shit that adds zero value to your life. Cut it out of your life.
Some of you guys have overcorrected waaaaaaaaay too far once you realized some mainstream media is trash. Absolute tin foil hat takes in this thread.
Stuff like Business insider and NY Times are trash and full of backward opinions
Axios seems fairly neutral and unbiased
Yes - especially if its the same few dogshit journalists every day
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❤️ reuters 😍 bloomberg ❤️
BBG
France 24, LeMonde, Le Parisien
Lol wat
These are the most common ones in France
Lol this forum kind of reminds me of the onion
Agree on this, lots of posts and comment here sound kind of backward
I’m tired hearing about news in general.
In today's hyper connected world, the 24hr news cycle we are subjected to is so draining and OTT. Like I’m supposed to feel depressed about people dying from covid, then depressed that people are dying in Ukraine, then depressed that people are struggling with the cost of living crisis, then depressed about the war in Israel.
Like honestly, who has the energy to constantly give a f**k about every single problem in the world?
Just concentrate on your own life, your mental health will thank you for it.
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