DCM vs LDCM exit opps?
To start off, I am speaking about Deutsche Bank. I have the option of two desks. The first is a traditional DCM group. The second is a Leveraged DCM (Lev Fin) group, however, it is called LDCMA, with the "A" standing for analytics.
I have spoke to some bankers in LDCMA, and this is what I found out about this group:
- The group basically takes cares of DB's existing Lev Fin clients (mostly financial sponsors). There is no sourcing/pitching for new clients.
- There is minimal, if any, client interaction. They are sometimes brought on to meet with a client, but in a normal day-to-day, there is no client interaction, even for associates/VPs.
- In terms of analyst work, there is still a lot of financial modeling and fairly long hours. I am sure there is a lot of LBO/DCF modeling.
- Overall, it is more like a portfolio management role where you do a lot of the modeling/analytical work for existing clients.
Knowing all this, which group would you choose? LDCMA or DCM? Which one is better on a resume and for exit opps?
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Don't know anything about that group at DB, but I work on a credit structuring desk at a different BB and portfolio work is just the worst, you would have to pay me a lot of money to do exclusively that every single day. Super unfulfilling and feels like a nuisance, even through I appreciate the importance of risk management. Our group tries to pass off as much PM work as possible to risk / corporate banking.
Thanks! Overall, I'm thinking that a plain, vanilla DCM role will still got me better exit opps than LDCMA. At least DCM is an actual client facing role
DCM is the better role. At my Bank we have the "LDCMA" guys and we call them quants. They just help bang out models and structure debt. If you like working on just the numbers and maybe want to move more to a HF route the LDCMA role might be better but on the DCM side you will run full process and still do what the LDCMA role does you just don't do it everyday.
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DCM is the better role. LDCMA at DB aren't quants. More like a middle / back office function.
Got it. Yeah, the DCM role feels more legit/real banking.
No, I agree they are not Quants, not really close to it. Our bank just calls them "quants".
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