Fastest path to MD/Partner today? (Epstein at 27, Kravis at 30, Roberts at 31 at Bear Stearns)
I know it’s basically impossible to hit MD/Partner before 30 in today’s world, but there must be some real killers out there who climb faster than the norm. Curious what people have actually seen as the earliest realistic timeline for someone to make it. Is sub-35 even possible anymore, or is ~12–14 years the absolute minimum no matter how strong you are?
Back in the day, it seems like things were very different. Jeffrey Epstein was made a limited partner at Bear Stearns at just 27(it honestly seems like a joke, but it's actually true), Henry Kravis at 30, and George Roberts at 31. Was this kind of rapid promotion unique to Bear’s culture, or were other banks also elevating people that young in the 70s/80s?
Obviously, today the system is a lot more structured, but it makes me wonder if there are still any outliers who rocket through the ranks, or if that whole “young partner” phenomenon is long gone.
Would love to hear if anyone has seen true exceptions in the current market.
I’ve seen it happen on the buyside but it’s rare. Has to be like a new finance vertical (private credit / secondaries boom), someone who is an absolute rockstar with meritocratic group head/ CEO, likability and outsized AUM growth. It’s gotta be something like 1 year IB analyst, 2 years Ass, 2 years VP, 2 years principal.
Alternatively if your dad becomes part of the admin you can skip MD and become CEO before 30.
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Jokes aside, I know a small PE fund on the West Coast that literally had this happen (CEO's son made partner). Lol.
2 yr IB, 2 yr PE ASO 1 yr SR ASO 3.5 yr principal -> Partner before 31
Has been done at a few top firms recently
Epstein became a partner 4 years after getting fired as a high school math teacher. Makes you wonder
Yeah, and then he was mysteriously let go about a year after making partner, supposedly over Regulation D violations.
forget recruiting for the buyside....young analsyts need to just get their group head in a comprommising situation with a wildly underage chick and then blackmail them ruthlessly. I have always wondered if that experience was the tipping point to scale up the blackmail operation? That's the only logical reason how it makes sense.
Also, interesting to know that JE was Citi's (i think it was Citi) Private Banks number one customer from revenue generation, even though there were far far richer clients. I wonder what they did to drive up his billing so much?
Connor Teskey of Brookfield. CEO of Brookfield Renewable at 31/32 now President of Brookfield Asset Management at 36.
Speaking on the banking side (it's different for traders and stuff) promotions happened a lot quicker back in the 80s and 90s when much of the investment banking products in their modern form were being invented (M&A advisory, High Yield bonds). There are people who graduated college in 85 and went to First Boston M&A who were Managing Directors at Wasserstein Perella by 92. Or look at Ken Moelis who got his MBA in 81 and joined Drexel. His 1983 wedding announcement names him as a VP, and a later article from 1989 about Drexel ("Drexel's Uncertain Future" 10/15/89) mentions him as a Managing Director appointed to the banks executive committee. Dude graduated college in 1980!
Later examples include Antonio Weiss who after getting his MBA in 94 was promoted to MD in 99 at Lazard and then to "Vice Chairman of European Investment Banking" by 2006.
John Waldron is another. Graduated Middlebury in 92 and was flying around originating high yield deals for gaming clients by 97 or 98. Poached to Goldman by DJ D-Sol in 2000 and made MD in 01 and Partner in 02 (only ten years out of college).
Now there are so many investment banks and bankers that it is hard to find a niche that you can identify as your own and actually own the client relationship at a young age. You need to get really lucky both in the area you cover and the underlying deal environment and even then the quickest would be 32 or 33 if you are at a bulge or elite boutique. I think it's possible if you go to a smaller more entrepreneurial boutique, but again, you'd have to get really lucky.
Thanks for your insights! May I ask which career would you pursue, if you had to start all again?
I’ll lyk after my SA stint next year
Eric Mindich became a partner at Goldman at 27.
these choices are the exceptions that prove the rule (ex Epstein. weird you chose to highlight him as a success story). all bazillionaires who were absolute rockstars in their own rights. also were aligned well with emergence of new industries / strategies. wasnt easy to be eric mindich or kravis back then either...
Epstein? The financier?
Come to think of it, I haven’t heard back from him since before Covid…
Matt swain at HL comes to mind
This. Only possible because deal by deal fundraising is a new area of the market
Is this area still growing now?
Only happens in fast growing, young industries. Same for consultancy back in the day. There are probably a few niches in FinTech and similar where people in 40 years will ask the same questions where today no one cares.
The unique thing is that banking paid bags back then despite its young and fast growing nature. I can’t really think of any niche today that combines these factors, and it’s all about the equity nowadays.
May I ask which niche do you prefer? Thanks in advance!
Head of Berenberg US ECM did it, he also has a pretty famous fiance
Zach Ennis at Stonepeak for PE/IBD. Otherwise it happens mostly in old days of S&T or these days in public markets
How did he do it?
Although there are still a few exceptions, Sub-35 MDs are extremely uncommon these days due to timelines and structure.
If you start at analyst at 22 and take 8.5 years to make director (2 years analyst, 3.5 years associate, 3 years VP), is it actually uncommon to then make MD after 4-5 years?
weird that chose a convicted predator as Exhibit A for people that were successful early on...
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