Anyone with information regarding HEC’s 2024 placements? (Especially London EB/BB). Given LBS’s MFA mediocre stats, is HEC in the same boat? Any kind of information would be appreciated
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LBS was shit ever since they took 360ish ppl for MFA. It's an overhyped uni, they all secure HSBC/Torch/Gleacher with huge happiness can't justify doing UG + PG for 45k at a big age to do a shit internship. Prime LBS used to secure BX analyst programs, well times changed right? HEC has a very great placement and opportunities for OCs across UK/France/Dubai.
This isn’t true LBS places tons into EBs every year
According to a current MFA student, placement was pretty terrible across the board this year, with most BB/EB placements being either DEI or internationals going back to their home country.
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Agreed, LBS they take in way too many students and half end up at very questionable places
So HEC or bust? Apparently I should just invest my time and energies on getting a T15 US MBA with $/$$ to have the best possible career path and avoiding the London recruitment horrors
Mate if you have the money for a US MBA then you would be braindead not to do it. 1. You actually get structured recruiting pipelines coming out of your degree. You’re recruiting for summer associate roles with exclusively other MBA candidates, not recruiting for summer analyst roles against 19 year olds or recruiting for offcycles to still be joining as an analyst anyways. 2. London is shit and there is pretty much no advantage other than free healthcare
Are we talking about the MFA or MiF for LBS? Bc MFA is for younger students than an MBA is the US would be
What a sentence lmao
LBS lost its way taking too many candidates in their MiM & MFA programs
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Yeah definitely
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Imperial over LBS… nice one
for the MFA I think they did not increase the class size (still about 200 people for next year) but they've been increasing the size of the MIM class by quite a lot yeah (I heard it doubled in a few years and now it's almost 400ppl in the MIM), so I guess it negatively impacts placement (especially for the MIM)
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Question is, do we attribute LBS's crap placements to the program/student body fundamentally deteriorating in quality, or to terrible market conditions?
For internships, which all MFA students apply to, the number of spots is exactly the same
Clearly, but we've seen a deterioration in placements (in absolute terms) even as the cohorts have gotten larger. Hence, is this caused by the dilution of the student body or by market conditions?
Ait fuck you clowns… figure it out by yourself
Does LSE include undergrads as well? Also, what's the source for this info, if you don't mind sharing?
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Source for this? Is LSE UG as well? Seems insane for their msc finance
MSc Finance grad
LBS and HEC Incorrect. Far more spots given at EB/BB for both which are not mentioned. Would wait until official communication is out about placement (should be around July/August from the universities and shared with incoming cohorts)
sure… as I said these are the ones I know of… ofc not exhaustive
How much of LBS' poor placement is driven by classes full of international students (99% for 2023 cohort, 92% for 2024) facing visa issues in recruiting?
I imagine for EU students it's less of an issue, but for example those from Asia, does it hold them back significantly in navigating processes successfully?
Technically, an LBS student should not have a problem with visa - they get access to the two year graduate visa programme.
HEC is not comparable to LBS. LBS MFA is a cash cow with one of the biggest cohorts in Europe. Some place good but percentage wise it is really not great.
HEC placement of this years cohort is absolutely crazy, just wait for the LinkedIn announcements coming in the next few weeks. Out of all the cohort there may be 3-4 people who are not entirely happy with what they landed so far. They send probably 50% out of the respective track to BB and EBs in London, and another 20-30% to regional offices. They also place several people full time into funds.
Monkey shit as much as you want but at a masters level HEC is in a galaxy of its own. LSE can’t compare as well - placement mainly carried by bachelor. It really is HEC or bust.
And be aware, the 2024 cohorts year was a bad hiring market, so placement in a good year must be even more insane
I would say HEC placement in London is not that high, they do have a very strong placement in BB/EB at regional offices tho
This guy either has an offer from HEC or works for admissions.
Misleading and blatantly false on a variety of fronts.
Could you point out how that is wrong ?
Any insights about the placements for non- Europeans at HEC? From what I understood, not speaking a european language + requiring a visa sponsorship (for London) will put you at the back of the pack even if HEC is on your CV, can you confirm?
wondering this too
At my EB postgrad placement is spread evenly across LBS HEC Oxford Cambridge imperial.
Any LSE?
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Although this guy is over-egging the pudding a bit, I do agree with him that HEC trumphs LBS. But both the MIF and MFA are great programs
No-brainer. You can ping me in September to double-check, quality of the HEC people and network is simply unmatched
Hi, I had a few questions about HEC. Could I dm you? I would be very grateful
Have spoken to students from both, the HEC students were more positive as they all land positions right out of college whereas MFA students have to wait a year to try.
Also not the HEC Mif it’s MiM which has a pipeline for IB
Why would MiM be a better pipeline if it teaches less finance? Is MiF only a better pipeline for PE/HF then?
From what I understood, the MiM is a two year program where you can “specialize” in finance in your second year; this gives you an opportunity to do an internship during and after your studies I think, which is vital for competing in these market conditions
One of the reasons for why HEC have a better placement than LBS is because the courses are longer. At HEC, students apply for summer internships 2-3 times in a row, even at MIF the graduation year is after 2 years which means the students can apply more times
Surprised that this incredibly obvious explanation is flying over everybody's head. Of course a 2-year top program has better placements than a 1-year top program, both in terms of quality and gross number of positions secured.
That is not true, the program itself is one year (1.5 years on paper) and I can assure you that no MIF student has gotten a summer internship in the year post-graduation.
LBS MFA this year includes Blackstone, Advent, KKR, Carlyle, Ares, Permira, EQT, Alchemy, GS, MS, JPM, Lazard, Moelis, Evercore, PJT, CVP, HL RX, GSAM, Citi, BofA, DB, Five Arrows, Barclays…. - what are you guys on about?
Were all these in London?
And if they were in London, what % were diversity? and what % were kids who already had SA and had converted?
Lmao a quick linkedin search will show you this is not true at all
Research doesn’t seem to be your strength - no placement on some of the MFs though
Consider the following: cohort of 200 people, about 60-70% target banking. The rest is split into consulting or AM/S&T/ER. Of those pursuing banking I’d say the split is 70% London 30% regional offices.
Just for banking about 25-30 got GS/JP/MS (including regional offices). For the other BBs it’s at least another 20 people. The rest got EBs and/or pe internships.
Imagine going to a uni in the outskirts of paris and dealing with french people instead of being in the heart of london bc of some wso thread
Based on the most recent data, HEC placed quite well in London. Around 50% of the cohort ended up in London and out of those around 75% got a spot in BBs/EBs, and around 10% got competitive buyside positions (MF PE, AM).
Hey, sorry I'm looking for this data but can't find it. Could you link please?
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HEC MIF here, promo 2026 for summer 2025, would suggest you to going to LBS. here is situation for HEC MIF:
if you are European male without UK bachelor degree, you better have BB internship (front office, not necessarily IB) on your CV to break into UK IB (may not be BB)
If you are European female, then it’s much easier, continental banking internship + HEC MIF will bring you many interviews in London
if you are non-European & non diversity ethnics female candidate, even if you have continental IB internship experience, you know three languages (French/Germany + English + your home country language), you are likely not have anything in the end
If you are non European & non diversity male with above conditions, you may even get 0 real person interview from UK IB summer
if you are Asian female, your best shot would be UK degree + UK local IB/PE internship experience + HEC MIF, then it’s likely you can break into UK IB with many interviews
so LBS, because you can always start from smaller boutiques and lateral to larger ones.
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