IamObamaWould anyone in here take BO if they didn't get FO?
would you rather be unemployed or employed in a job you don't want?
Unemployed. I would be much more motivated and work much harder to get a job I want if I was unemployed then employed in a job I don't want
Lol this is hopelessly naive and stupid. Long bouts of unemployment are much worse for your future then working BO. It's always easier to get a job if you have one.Though I guess if you can live off mommy and daddy go for it.
you've still got time. i wouldn't personally contemplate an MSF, it's only a very expensive way to buy you extra time and you'll prob be in the same boat within a year.
when i was a senior, i went through +25 apps, for approx 10 interviews, 3 superdays and 1 offer (which ironically i didn't have a super day for). you're getting close given the number of superdays - it's only a matter of time before you connect with the right employer.
With tight analyst classes, record SA return rates, and banks' commitments to OCR candidates first... a perfect storm was born for shitty, shitty recruiting even with the ridiculous amount of references I had
I'm worse 5 first rounds, 1 superday, 0 offers (and most of the first round phone screens were just courtesy interviews, as I got really positive feedback from my interviewers afterwards [I asked what I could work on] and they just said that too many people with better resumes were consideration still])
I am graduating in December and about to get an offer for an FT analyst position at a pretty well known firm that handles mostly back office work. There are three teams available for this position: PE, HF and Fund of Funds. What do you think would be best for trying to lateral hire to banking.
I'm still here, likely going to graduate unemployed now. I had one lead that ended up with the position being taken away. No leads now and nothing in sight. Still going to keep on trying
BigBucksIf all you're doing is applying to HFs and PE coming out of undergrad I can see exactly why you're jobless.
Why are you assuming we're all doing this? I haven't applied to one HF or PE. Just IB (and yes I networked with boutiques)...
same goes for IB, apply for a variety of positions, beggars can't be choosers. That means corp fin, big 4, and even MO/BO roles... unless you're seeking further education one really can't be picky as a senior without a job. The last thing you want is to be a year out of school with nothing to show for it besides plenty of cold calls to investment banks.
landed a sweet ass job and start soon. just moved to NY this past week and am loving it so far. everything kinda just worked out for me, i totally don't belong here on my own merit.
consider graduate school. also, don't only aim at top finance jobs. if you didn't get into those jobs as an SA, it's pretty hard to break in as a senior or a recent graduate who graduated unemployed.
besides, most of IB analysts hate their jobs and leave after their 2 year stint. I don't get why so many kids on this site think it's IBD/ trading or nothing. look at consulting, corp finance, accounting, etc
it's a true numbers game i realized - the chances of getting into GS vs. a tiny boutique I feel are roughly the same. I know people who got into GS and not even a superday for a low middle market and vice versa.
That being said, I had 19 1st round interviews - 5 superdays - 2 offers + 1 pending. I'm sure if I had anything less than 1st rounds, I may not have gotten an offer. Keep in mind that you may be extremely well qualified and intelligent, but if there is no opening, your out of luck, or if there is one opening and you are always the second best (behind the perfect person), you're out of luck again...
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it is not over until May of next year. Good luck. Try not to live in your parent's house.
Sup brah - 1 legit 1st round interview, 1 superday, waiting....
hear you man. your interview --> superday % is pretty good too.
Would anyone in here take BO if they didn't get FO?
Unemployed. I would be much more motivated and work much harder to get a job I want if I was unemployed then employed in a job I don't want
yeah but applying to as many no-name FO positions as possible right now...
^how hard one tries is rather vague. if you want it as bad as you want to breathe (like that video) i'm pretty sure you can get a job in ib.
ive personally lined up the noose
MSF....
I've also been considering that. I have one superday left and if that doesn't work out then I'll start focusing on GMATs while still networking etc
you've still got time. i wouldn't personally contemplate an MSF, it's only a very expensive way to buy you extra time and you'll prob be in the same boat within a year.
when i was a senior, i went through +25 apps, for approx 10 interviews, 3 superdays and 1 offer (which ironically i didn't have a super day for). you're getting close given the number of superdays - it's only a matter of time before you connect with the right employer.
Good luck.
I have no OCR...
With tight analyst classes, record SA return rates, and banks' commitments to OCR candidates first... a perfect storm was born for shitty, shitty recruiting even with the ridiculous amount of references I had
I'd do an MSF clearly for the re-brand and OCR
senior and graduating in december sup
HAHAHAHA.. me too. oh and an update to my 'waiting status' ---> 0 FT OFFERS
anyone considering applying internships? would employers still look at seniors...?
I've been going after internships with no luck. There's really no reason for them to go outside of their current hiring practices...
I'm worse. 12 first rounds, 7 superdays, no offer. Gotta stick with it and keep your head up.
damn were these all IB?
15+ 1st rounds, 6 power days, no offers.
anyone delaying graduation and going for internships?
Really would rather not...considering it though.
I'm worse 5 first rounds, 1 superday, 0 offers (and most of the first round phone screens were just courtesy interviews, as I got really positive feedback from my interviewers afterwards [I asked what I could work on] and they just said that too many people with better resumes were consideration still])
I got an email from something I applied for weeks ago and the entire body of the email was "N/A" lol
I am graduating in December and about to get an offer for an FT analyst position at a pretty well known firm that handles mostly back office work. There are three teams available for this position: PE, HF and Fund of Funds. What do you think would be best for trying to lateral hire to banking.
OR, should I go for a MSF?
Start a new thread dude.
Why?
How's it coming along guys?
I'm still here, likely going to graduate unemployed now. I had one lead that ended up with the position being taken away. No leads now and nothing in sight. Still going to keep on trying
fuck my life
If all you're doing is applying to HFs and PE coming out of undergrad I can see exactly why you're jobless.
Why are you assuming we're all doing this? I haven't applied to one HF or PE. Just IB (and yes I networked with boutiques)...
same goes for IB, apply for a variety of positions, beggars can't be choosers. That means corp fin, big 4, and even MO/BO roles... unless you're seeking further education one really can't be picky as a senior without a job. The last thing you want is to be a year out of school with nothing to show for it besides plenty of cold calls to investment banks.
There are tons of jobs out there. Stop aiming for f'ckin high.
landed a sweet ass job and start soon. just moved to NY this past week and am loving it so far. everything kinda just worked out for me, i totally don't belong here on my own merit.
learn a fucking language and move to london, zürich, hong kong, singapore, or frankfurt
aim lower--your first job doesn't have to be your dream job--for the vast majority it isn't
Graduted last May.... I need to network better.
consider graduate school. also, don't only aim at top finance jobs. if you didn't get into those jobs as an SA, it's pretty hard to break in as a senior or a recent graduate who graduated unemployed.
besides, most of IB analysts hate their jobs and leave after their 2 year stint. I don't get why so many kids on this site think it's IBD/ trading or nothing. look at consulting, corp finance, accounting, etc
What'sup? You are putting your eggs in one basket.
Dude, apply for other jobs at F500 if you need a job.
If you are just shopping for a title, a company, and Wall Street only, then get ready to part of the unemployed statistics.
it's a true numbers game i realized - the chances of getting into GS vs. a tiny boutique I feel are roughly the same. I know people who got into GS and not even a superday for a low middle market and vice versa.
That being said, I had 19 1st round interviews - 5 superdays - 2 offers + 1 pending. I'm sure if I had anything less than 1st rounds, I may not have gotten an offer. Keep in mind that you may be extremely well qualified and intelligent, but if there is no opening, your out of luck, or if there is one opening and you are always the second best (behind the perfect person), you're out of luck again...
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