What are the arguments for and against updating your LinkedIn with something like “Incoming Investment Banking Summer Analyst at X.” I can see why many would cringe at this, but are there any reasons why anyone should actually do this?
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It doesn't really matter, but it gives off a hardo vibe. Some people might also think you're just trying to brag. I've always thought the best course of action is to just be humble and update your LinkedIn once you actually start working there. If you really need to get the satisfaction and recognition of posting it early, then go ahead, but everyone will find out that you're working there anyway. I also find it an attractive quality in people when I find out something impressive about them without them telling me directly (or posting about it on LinkedIn). Shows humility. All-in-all, though, it doesn't really matter.
is it really a hardo move if it's the norm now? Agree that it comes off as bragging, but it seems like pretty much every SA is doing it (I've even seen tons of people update for C/O 2022 already for Summer 2021 that starts a year out) that it doesn't bother me too much anymore.
I think it's a bad idea, for example take the people who were gonna be SAs at Cantor Fitzgerald or Raymond James, but they had their internship cancelled. Now they are not just jobless but embarrassed when then have to take it down after they made a whole huge public post thanking the whole universe for getting them a SA. For incoming FT apparently some people think it's better cause you get HH looks, so maybe there's some value there, but none for incoming SAs.
wtf is cantor
Are you joking?
Raymond James hasn't cancelled any IB internships to my knowledge (finishing up my IB internship at RJ this week)
They canceled some. IT was an office by office decision
I will say as much as it appears to be in poor taste, pretty much every incoming summer / full-time analyst to my knowledge does this. Obviously it's not ideal but it's kind of the norm I feel
Im curious about your opinion on why it is in poor taste and not ideal.
Seems like the whole point of a profile page on linkedin is to show education/employment info, so showing where youre going to work next is relevant.
You are totally right. I started in the era where doing that was rather uncouth but yes, you're right in that the point of linkedin is to show where you study / work so I was likely just swung by the thought that putting the incoming title was a huge flex rather than being a meaningful contribution to your profile. Let's see how it shapes up this and next year
I've heard from upperclassmen who have done the "Incoming SA" that they've gotten significantly more network requests / inmails / internship job offers during the semester (my school is within a major city).
I get the point of being humble and not really posting anything about it, but many upperclassmen actually made a groupme after reaching out to other people who had the "Incoming SA" at the same bank (obviously people could lie but most people wouldn't). They were able to connect and make friends before the internship even started, which I think is definitely a positive as you know who you can rely on for help and who you can't.
I think people on WSO give it a bad rep, but look you just worked your ass off getting the SA stint and I think anyone who says you're stupid to put the "Incoming SA" honestly is just being rude. No harm in doing so and potentially helpful!
SB!
My argument for is that it’s awkward to keep my headline as “intern at X” when my internship is over and I already signed at Y. I don’t make a big post about it or anything — I don’t think it’s cringe if it’s discreet and accurate.
So I put incoming IB summer analyst and I won’t be doing it for FT, but it did help me. Let’s be honest your doing it to flex. However it helped me when it came to placement day. Just by having the incoming IB analyst at whatever bank on your experiences helps you connect with more people from that bank for a few reasons. First, linkedins algorithm will automatically suggest to connect you with people from that bank. Second, people are more willing to accept a request from a person that they know is going to be a summer analyst and is most likely trying to connect for group placement
It's one of those things that seemed cringe in the beginning when people first started doing it, but now everyone is doing it and it's the new normal.
Like Airpods I guess, it's less stupid to walk around with white stems sticking out of your ears if everybody's doing it
Bro wearing air pods isn't cringe you can keep those cord fuckin headphones for yourself then
The only cringe-worthy thing on LinkedIn is when people make the "I am excited to announce" that they got a job, using the exact same words as everyone else, cant even say thrilled or overjoyed, its gotta be the same bullshit excited, and nobody gives a shit about their new job at northwestern mutual lol
Yeah, have always thought that it is helpful to have some "branding" now because it's so common. No problem being discreet and simply editing your heading.
I won’t respond to your LinkedIn message if I see “incoming” in your bio...
You're response is not as important as you think lol...
It warms my heart to see the young Crab Chiggins in training shit on these dumbasses.
Please, have a SB.
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then don't build a connection and be closed off. Lmao nobody gives a shit about you because so many others will accept that message and build friends.
"build" friends, lol
I'll bite. The biggest reason why I will never write "Incoming" is because you have no idea what will happen between when the offer is signed, and when you start the job. There are several months, sometimes a year between the start dates, so the uncertainty to post just isn't worth it. What happens if you don't meet their GPA requriements, a background check comes back with a mark, you do something stupid causing a reneging.
Think about those who had gigs in corporate development roles at airlines, or other struggling companies that had to renege on offers out of the risk of bankruptcy. Not so "incoming" anymore...
I understand wanting to get to know your peers and future colleagues early, but being pragmatic, you aren't going to be talking regularly before your start date in most cases (maybe confirming firm communications?). Just meet everyone on the day, and get on with your life, not reaching out a couple of months earlier won't change anything, and if you were going to be great friends with a work colleague it would have happened regardless if you had reached out earlier or first spoke on your first day.
"network requests, in-mails, and internship offers". Network requests are full of shit. If you scroll through your LinkedIn connections and haven't had a real genuine conversation with someone, then they aren't providing value to your "network" and it's time to remove him/her. In-mails vary, but the most I have ever seen, have been vapid "VC" "Blockchain | Influencer" types who have nothing to offer. Job offers are fair enough, but how likely is it you will switch job offers especially when you have publicly declared that you are joining one firm over another. You haven't even started you job, and you are willing to switch?
I don't necessarily "cringe" at the finance hardos, because I understand that they put a lot of work to get secure their offer, and I am happy that they broke in, so congratulations to them.
Just update your LinkedIn profile on the first day, and get over it. Something social media has destroyed is the concept of being graceful.
sounds like someone didn't get that IB offer he wanted lmao
It’s really just not that deep lol.
Just saw “incoming student at Yale university”
Bump, I know this practice is generally an idiotic thing to do- but given the sheer amount of students / incoming interns who do it anyways, would you guys say people still have the same negative impression as they did 3-4 years back? Or do people seem to accept it now and just not care anymore?
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