Lateraling from MM to BB at VP level
Looking for candid takes from people who’ve made the jump (or hired laterals).
I’m a VP at a MM IB platform. Most of my post-analyst experience has been MM and I’ve built a decent network with sponsors/management teams in that ecosystem. I have an offer to lateral at VP to a top-3 BB in a similar seat.
I’ve heard mixed views that it can sometimes be “easier” to join a lower-tier BB first (less culture shock / less “organ rejection”), vs jumping straight into a top-3 where the bar and internal expectations can be intense.
For those who’ve done MM to top BB (or even any of the BBs) at VP:
- How real is the “organ rejection” risk at VP?
- What are the biggest differences in expectations/culture (and what gets people exposed)?
- Is leaving behind MM goodwill/relationships a meaningful career risk, or does the platform upgrade outweigh it?
- Any advice for making the transition successful?
Appreciate any honest feedback.
Jumping from a MM IB platform to a top-3 BB at the VP level is a significant move, and based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some key insights and advice:
1. "Organ Rejection" Risk at VP Level
2. Biggest Differences in Expectations and Culture
3. Leaving Behind MM Goodwill/Relationships
4. Advice for a Successful Transition
In summary, while the transition from MM to a top-3 BB at the VP level comes with challenges, it’s a move that can significantly enhance your career. By preparing for the cultural shift, leveraging your MM experience, and focusing on relationship-building, you can position yourself for success.
Sources: How to not get stuck at VP, Some Observations from an MD, What's Your Five Year (IBD) Plan? A VP Reflects and Looks Forward., Advice for New Analysts Seeking PE Exits, Q&A - From Non-Target to VP at EB
Bumping this up
I did MM to EB (PJT/MOE/LAZ/PWP) as a VP. It’s a change like you’d expect as far as higher expectations but overall I think I have established my footing a year later. FWIW though my group has a much better culture than I’ve heard the top 3 BBs to have
Are you at one of the larger/well-known MMs, or more of a boutique MM? What has been the typical EV size for transactions you’ve worked on? I’d like to do something similar and I’m really curious what my chances are..
Nomura / TD / Truist tier
Just do it. You’ll be fine. Will be an adjustment but so is any new job. There’s no magical thing about a top 3 BB.
I made a move as VP1 from MM to maybe *number 4* BB and it’s been a great move for me - got to refocus on sector of interest.
If you have a reason for doing it, make the move. If you are performing and well-liked at MM you will also be at the BB so long as you keep work ethic
What would you say was the biggest adjustment for you?
Depends on the level. Should be fine as VP1 but wouldn’t recommend as VP2/3.
Yep VP1
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