Minoring in Religion?

I am a rising sophomore at Georgetown University pursuing an Econ Major. I am Catholic and interested to study my faith in an academic light. Since Gtown is a Catholic school it's offering a minor in Catholic Studies; I am really interested in studying this. I know this will definitely not help in IB recruiting but will taking this somehow hurt me?

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  • Intern in IB - Cov
Aug 15, 2022 - 11:48am

I would reject you instantly, but that's just me. I have a distaste for all religion.Imagine voluntarily indoctrinating yourself

Aug 15, 2022 - 12:15pm
Captain Rex, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Captain Based

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."

  • Thomas Paine
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Aug 15, 2022 - 12:16pm
Captain Rex, what's your opinion? Comment below:

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

  • Stephen Roberts
  • Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
Aug 15, 2022 - 12:20pm

I'm not much of a believer myself… doesn't mean the guy can't gain something from studying Catholicism lol. Why would you reject someone because of their minor? Talk about closed-minded.

Controversial
  • Intern in IB - Cov
Aug 15, 2022 - 12:35pm

If you are naive enough to believe in 2000 year old fairy tales then I do not trust you with a multi billion dollar book runner deal.

Suppose planned parenthood comes to your bank looking for $4 billion in financing for example.

There would certainly be hesitation from our analyst to work on this deal as it goes against his/her misogynistic "beliefs"

Aug 15, 2022 - 3:34pm
NoEquityResearch, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Captain Rex

I would reject you instantly, but that's just me. I have a distaste for all religion.

Imagine voluntarily indoctrinating yourself

So basically you believe in discrimination....Let's follow your value system instead.

Maybe, this guy takes the words of Christ seriously and treats others execptionally well, is kind to co-workers, helps the poor and hungry....basically the kind of person you want to work with. To discount someone because of their religion and not their character displays your sick values and not his.

  • Intern in IB - Cov
Aug 15, 2022 - 3:54pm

Let's talk about the word of Christ:

(Deuteronomy 22:20–21)

What do you do if your daughter loses her virginity before marriage? Be careful how you answer-because this is what the Bible clearly says

"If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman's virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you."

Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.

(Leviticus 20:9)

God encourages the murder of pagan children-and infants

(Hosea 13:4, 9, 16)

Perversity and human trafficking condoned: "Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse." (1 Peter 2:18)

Sex slavery condoned: "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again."

Exodus 21: 7-8

Leviticus 25:44-46

44 "However, you may purchase male and female slaves from among the nations around you. 45 You may also purchase the children of temporary residents who live among you, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, 46 passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat them as slaves, but you must never treat your fellow Israelites this way.

"I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." Timothy 2:11

Rape, incest, murder, slavery, human trafficking, misogyny….

Am I missing anything?

These are the teachings of your religion. Don't know about you but if my coworker followed these teachings, I wouldn't want to work with them…

how about you ?

Aug 16, 2022 - 1:01pm
excelmonkey10101, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Religion aside, your inability to appreciate positive qualities about someone else (passionate, kind, respectful) because you disagree with their personal beliefs is a major red flag. How can you reasonably expect to serve your clients well when you are so dismissive and close minded concerning personal beliefs? You brought up planned parenthood: what about a Christian counter example? Quite the keyboard warrior

Aug 17, 2022 - 10:58am
gsssa 2050, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Buddy you're a friggin intern, no one cares who you would reject because at the end of the day you're not the one doing the rejecting, you're the one being rejected

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Aug 15, 2022 - 12:52pm
chimpnotsimp, what's your opinion? Comment below:

It's your life buddy. Pick up the minor and just leave it off the resume if you're worried. You gotta do things that make you happy too. 

  • Intern in IB - Cov
Aug 15, 2022 - 6:13pm

I don't see too much value in minoring if you don't intend to put it on your resume. In fact, from my experience, course requirements for minors are pretty annoying because you have to take some courses that you may not be interested in. As a rising sophomore you should be able to take 1 course/semester as a pass/fail course which can't be applied to fulfill requirements, but if I were you, that's what I would do because that way the classes you take are "risk free" and won't jeopardize your gpa

  • Intern in IB - Gen
Aug 15, 2022 - 7:24pm

Based Catholic. Go for it. I would love to do something like this and I would definitely ask about it in a curious way. Sounds interesting and despite the persecution complex that WASPs in this country have, nobody will reject you for being Catholic. If they do, you don't wanna work for them anyway.

  • Prospect in IB - Cov
Aug 15, 2022 - 8:53pm

"We are doing God's work." -Lloyd Blankfein

Aug 15, 2022 - 9:33pm
Kevin25, what's your opinion? Comment below:

why do you guys like minors so much

Aug 16, 2022 - 9:51am
CapRate_Compression, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Hey man - similar boat to you as well as likely others in this forum. Catholic as well and put importance on my faith in my life (even tho I do make mistakes from time to time like everyone does).

But anyway - I don't think it will hurt you. Honestly, I think it would make you more interesting compared to a lot of generic / cookie cutter resumes. Life is short, and realistically, you're doing banking for 2 years tops and then bouncing. Did banking for 2 years myself and now on the REPE side. As long as you're a chill / relatable guy, people don't care if you're Catholic, Protestant, Jewish or whatever. People don't want to interact with a holier than thou type person or a person that can only talk about religion and not other parts of life (sports, current events, beer, etc.)

The only time I've had an "issue" has been when out at a conference or social event and people are looking to bring in some substances or go to a strip club. Just simply say, not for me but I appreciate the offer and don't let me stop you. Generally, people are cool with it. Is this the right response from a faith lens, I'm not sure but telling someone they are living in sin and what they are doing is wrong wont work either or be received well.

Sorry went on a rant. Long story short - do it if you're passionate about it. Find a way to be relatable and enjoyable to be around majority of people without compromising your beliefs and you'll be fine. I commend you for the interest.

  • Analyst 1 in AM - Other
Aug 16, 2022 - 10:49am

I would take it but leave it off of the resume. Given how pro-abortion New York is and how heated up the propaganda is getting there, I would leave it off because they might discriminate against you if they learn you are Catholic (same as if they learn you are conservative). Religion and politics don't mix well in any workplace, especially in New York.

  • Associate 2 in AM - FI
Aug 16, 2022 - 10:58am

Do it. If I were interviewing you and you were doing well, your minor would be a positive differentiating factor that makes you more unique and well-rounded as a candidate. Some might disagree with me and argue that your minor should directly supplement your major, and you should be prepared to face that perspective in interviews, but I highly doubt many people would hold this against you. Some of the most high-performing professionals I know pursued similar degrees for their major, and I'm aware of many more who actively look for kids doing something more unique with their time in college. People who can only talk about finance, economics, and STEM quickly become very boring to most people in the real world, and that matters quite a bit as you mature in your career.

I've intentionally left the religious element out of the response above as that shouldn't even be a consideration. Getting denied for studying religious coursework is something to be thankful for, as it just means that you dodged a bullet. You don't want to work for anyone who'd hold your faith against you (obviously), and somebody would have to be truly birdbrained to think that only religious people are interested in this topic. I'm pretty sure several of the top religion students at my school were athiest/agnostic...

Good luck!

  • Analyst 1 in PE - Growth
Aug 16, 2022 - 1:28pm

No harm doing it -- if anything it will differentiate you from the hundreds of other econ majors from Gtown + potentially give you a GPA boost if classes aren't too hard. Just be prepared to explain why you chose to minor in it since it's something that is pretty unique and might get asked about.

Aug 16, 2022 - 2:22pm
Faustian, what's your opinion? Comment below:

You should study what you're interested in, that's the beauty of school. I have a liberal arts related minor that's not on my resume, and I've never lost a night of sleep because of it.

Aug 16, 2022 - 11:05pm
AnonymousMonke2, what's your opinion? Comment below:

When you're in the kingdom of heaven and you see St. Peter block Intern at IB - Cov at the gates you will see who had the last laugh.

Aug 17, 2022 - 2:47pm
IncomingIBDreject, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Do you think in Heaven there will be protected Sundays?

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  • Associate 1 in HF - Macro
Aug 17, 2022 - 7:39am

Your faith isn't something to be ashamed of. The type of people who ding an applicant solely for taking a few Catholic Studies classes are not the type of people you want to work for. Get your priorities in order. Go for it!

Aug 17, 2022 - 3:54pm
Esuric, what's your opinion? Comment below:

You don't need a degree/minor in religious studies to learn about your faith. You can pick up the Church Fathers, the Summa, Augustine's Confessions/De Trinitate, etc., practically for free these days. Catholicism also has an extensive catechism precisely for this purpose and the Bible (with commentaries) is also free. Further, most of the religious studies departments (particularly at Catholic institutions) are incredibly liberal and effectively teach that the Bible lacks historicity and is almost entirely (if not entirely) allegorical. In other words, these programs will damage your faith.

So unless you plan on being a professional theologian, I would suggest staying away from religious studies. Study what you want to do for a living and, on the side, dig deeper into your personal theological interests. 

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Aug 18, 2022 - 9:38pm
UFOinsider, what's your opinion? Comment below:

You don't have to list it on your resume.  I studied ancient religions from an academic standpoint (NOT as a believer) and interviewers generally found that interesting.  No one gives a fuck about your faith though 🤣🤣🤣

Get busy living
Aug 19, 2022 - 5:23am
GeorgeSenior, what's your opinion? Comment below:

The comments I read here lampooning or criticizing the choice to minor in religion must have been made by generation Z CNN watchers, who create the false syllogism: religious studies are for outmoded religious people -> this person's resume has religious studies on it -> this person must be an old fashioned, small minded luddite.

This couldn't be further from the truth, if one knows what theology and religious studies actually are. The OP attends Georgetown, not Bible Thumper U.

I'm sitting here with numerous books on religion in my study (philosophical, historical, didactic and even apocryphal) precisely because I don"t believe in 99% of it, and want to develop my own understanding and free-thinking beliefs relating to the concept "God".

The OP starts his studies from the other end of the continuum i.e. as a practicing Catholic, with a class of students of varying levels of belief, and during his time there will refine his own views and be exposed to some very interesting topics along the way.

In summary, don't make the false equivalence of studying religion with being religious, and don't discount the intellectual discipline and rigor required.

More generally speaking as someone who reviews resumes and interviews applicants for IBD roles almost every quarter, I can say that I'm usually most impressed by the applicants who have a business major and a non-business minor as you get the best of both worlds - an understanding of accounting & finance etc. combined with something actually interesting to talk about!

Aug 22, 2022 - 1:31am
stablecashflows, what's your opinion? Comment below:

gtown student here. dude be yourself… getting an offer is hard but not enough to worry about this

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Aug 22, 2022 - 6:38pm

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