"Non-Targets" in IB
What is the "worst" or lowest ranked school you've seen someone in IB attend? And, what did they do to get there?
What is the "worst" or lowest ranked school you've seen someone in IB attend? And, what did they do to get there?
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Career Resources
Based on the most helpful WSO content, individuals from non-target schools can and do break into investment banking (IB), even from schools that are considered "low-ranked" by traditional standards. Here are some key insights:
Examples of Non-Target Schools:
What They Did to Get There:
Challenges and Perceptions:
In summary, while breaking into IB from a non-target school is undoubtedly more challenging, it is far from impossible. The key lies in networking, gaining relevant experience, and showcasing an unmatched level of determination.
Sources: Non-Target - The New Prestige, What are the Strongest Non-Target Schools for Undergrad Recruitment?, My Recruiting Story: The importance of reading emotions and the appearance of intelligence, My path from non-target to BB IB, Non-target to BB IB SA
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I’m going to assume you aren’t in the industry yet because non targets are everywhere. My bank has a ton of people from state schools you wouldn’t even think of for finance.
Totally agree. Target schools certainly have a paved path into IB but there are many people from non-target schools. You need to have a little more agency at a non-target as the banks won't be coming to you, but you can certainly get through, and many do.
There's a lot of "unspoken" rules to the process that are essentially being incredibly polite which you might misfire on if you don't have a club training you on those elements. I cover some of that in my newsletter just because I think banking is an interesting, quaint culture.
Are you MFs that commented dense, or did you just not even read his questions? To give you an answer, there's one person from my school (top 150 in USA, satellite commuter campus of shitty state school) that I know in IB at a decent bank in NYC rn. They got an internship somehow and converted to FT.
I don't know that "lowest ranked" is even the best way to try to understand the non-target struggle. Alabama is ranked 169th (U.S. News), but it still places people at great shops. Law of large numbers, if you have class sizes for 10k+, someone will break in if they're disciplined and know their stuff. What always impresses me are the people from small, no-name schools, who manage to find a way. You also have to consider connections outside of university (whether that be nepo or people from other walks of life)
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