Time to rank EBs and BBs. Too often are only one of these ranked at a time. For EB, ignore rx and just rank on m&a please. Pure exits ranking, ignore the higher comp of Centerview for instance.
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UBS, DB, Barclays, CS, Citi and maybe BAML (every non JPM/GS/MS BB) are below every single Elite Boutique. Every EB gives strong exits to MF/UMM PE whereas BB after top 3 is not likely
Realistically it's like this
GS/MS/JPM/ some EBs Other EBs Other BBs
care to expand on which of the EBs you feel are on the tier of MS/GS/JPM?
This forum looks more and more like Greekrank every day.
BB: Santander, DB Equities Houston and Monte dei Paschi di Siena
EB: Greenhill, Tobin & Co and (mainly for life/work balance) Lazard Paris/Madrid.
Anyone care to add?
why did you have to do santander like that lol
Tier 1a: JPM, GS Tier 1b: Evercore, MS Tier 2a: BAML, CS, Moelis Tier 2b: Barclays, UBS, Citi Tier 3a: Centerview, PJT, PWP
Unrankable: Lazard (massive layoffs), DB, Greenhill
This is specifically for M&A
atrocious ranking, pls fix thx
Nice try, but you're not funny.
you're probably in high school. What do you know about Lazard or greenhill besides the nonsense spouted on this forum. Both are doing far better than most other EBs in terms of exits and deal volume so what is this based on?
Lazard has cut 1/3 of its employees. That's not nonsense its been confirmed by Patrick himself. Maybe you should actually pay attention a bit more before making such comments. I'd wait until Lazard finishes its restructuring to rank it.
DB's equity cuts has brought its name down from where it used to be. Even though that was in S&T, such effects have rippled through to the IB division making the exits from the group weak currently
Of course the DB and Lazard rankings will change once their restructuring is complete but until then the banks cant be ranked
Most rankings are a waste of time, but wow, this is so bad it is actually impressive you managed to fuck it up so much
PJT, Evercore, GS, MS, Qatalyst
JPM, Centerview
Moelis, Lazard
Citi, BAML, PWP
Credit Suisse, Greenhill, Barclays
Guggenheim
RBC
Jefferies
Wells Fargo
DB, UBS
Barclays and PWP seem a bit high
Barclays is similar tier to cs and citi, so they are ranked low i think
Why is BAML so high?
RBC is a MM bank.
No, it's lower BB now. At least on par if not above UBS.
I'm assuming you intern at Qatalyst or PJT? Neither of these firms have exit opps better than JPM, you are kididng yourself here.
what is citi doing up there lol
Not this again, jesus fucking christ. AndyLouis and WallStreetOasis.com - any way we can delete / lock these trash threads?
Read what the OP asked for . Wanted to know about banks in terms of deal flow and exit opps. That’s not a bad thing to rank on.
I don't know of any other threads that have ranked the banks like this. I don't see what the issue is, especially because the whole EB vs BB discussion is important to the future of advisory.
"Pure exits ranking" - says nothing about deal flow, so maybe you should be the one to "read what the OP asked for." This horse has been beaten to death and usually there is very little to back up arbitrary tiers, plus things like group / location matter a ton too. Just garbage with a ton of interns / students just regurgitating info they might have heard.
Tier 1: GS TMT* Tier Nobody Will Ever Love You, not Even Your Own Mother: All other groups and banks.
*only applies if you’re the #1 analyst in group. If not, expect Wal-Mart greeter in a tier 3 city to be your best exit op.
Seriously, can we please stop this stuff now? I feel like one of these threads gets made every other week.
There are far too many "prospects in IB" commenting on this that know absolutely nothing
Alright 2nd year analyst. Instead of making a comment that adds little value why don't you actually input something meaningful about deal flow/exits
Where does the prestige chase end? Cornell considered a "low tier ivy", UBS/RBC considered a "low tier BB" and now this. Trying to brag to your Moelis buddies that you are better because you work at Evercore. Where is the contentment in life? At this rate KKR won't even be pleasing you'll be looking at working for a HF next.
Can you guys rank S&T at this firms? Whats the top to the bottom?
S&T is more difficult to rank because quite frankly it boils down simply to a $ sign. How much profit the group makes in the market is what determines "success". Obviously that changes from year to year. The prestige element isn't really a factor.
Well the bottom for equities is DB lol but beyond that can't weigh in.
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