I know some firms such as Goldman Sachs has a reputation for compensating their analysts well, but also making them work really long hours. What are some of the banks that seems to have a fairly good balance between work hours and pay?
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lol Goldman underpays - it’s called the Goldman discount. but regardless what you’re asking for is essentially the holy grail, and it doesn’t really exist. If you wanna get paid you gotta put in the hours ( at least in ib)
Facts. If a job like that existed there would be hundreds of people (probably more qualified, not a diss just a fact) lining up. It's like the girl problem: looks, intelligence, personality -- pick two.
The same bank that gives you unlimited vacation time, guarantees job security, and promises periodic promotions
This sounds a lot like Williams Partners and FT Partners. Solid shops
FTP is garbage
within the context of IB Evercore
Agree with above poster Evercore prob has one of the better cultures towards hours, but the truth of IB is that if you're at a reputable shop your hours will never be great. Even the best shops hour-wise will blow you up when a deal is hot.
I'd say majority of analysts at Evercore still get worked pretty hard
Absolutely agree, just slightly better on a relative scale. But yeah at any good shop you’ll be worked
Centerview
Greenhill has good hours (for IB) and pay is on the lower end for boutiques but still strong.
pwp, evercore but exceptions here of course
high-powered regional boutiques, centerview if youre lucky but can get blown up easily
barclays and then credit suisse probably have the fewest BB hours on average but pay is not "high" for any BB analyst
Do you have any idea what weekly hours look like at Barclays/CS?
decent hours and good pay are mutually exclusive and not just in IB.
where would anyone reward you with higher output than your input?
As cliched as it will sound, if you're going into IB solely for the money, you will not make it in IB, guaranteed.
I actually disagree a lot here. I've found people who are most obsessed with money work hard to make sure they get the highest bonuses. Ironically, these people also may not "make it" in IB because they want to go to exit opps with more money in them lmfao
Can you tell when someone is obsessed with money?
high frequency trading actually does that. But based on what I heard, top firms only take top10 math student in the country
are u international or something
why? I’m talking about top firms like Jane Street and Jump trading’s high frequency trading team in us. I heard from couple friends at cal tech recruiting there. I’m not referring to typical trading desk at banks
wondering if anyone can confirm this, but I’ve heard top MM shops can be marginally better for hours worked? Places like Blair/Baird pay somewhere between BB and EB levels and I believe they’re a little more reasonable on hours
Blair/baird pay street and although cultures are great they are total sweatshops in some groups namely industrials for baird and healthcare for blair. remember that good culture =/= good hours. at the end of the day any good shop is going to be hard work.
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