why are there so many guggenheim shills on this forum?
Has anyone else noticed this? Just randomly browsing and any comments saying guggenheim is not on the same level as other banks or is lower than perella/moelis/lazard etc just get downvoted to oblivion. reveal yourselves gentlemen
LMAO it's so true. Gugg is definitely not on the same level as others. There seems to be a lot of astroturfing in general on this forum for certain banks.
After being in the industry for close to 4 years now it's also pretty clear that there is a disconnect between how people on this forum view certain banks (mostly driven by inaccurate assumptions on PE exits by college students who have never actually worked in finance) vs. how people in the industry actually view them...
Aight since the associate hasn't responded and all you kids are horny for rankings I'll give my take as someone who went to a target and has spent a few years in the industry. feel free to disagree or give me monkey shit I'm really not trying to argue. Everything here is on average, you will always find examples of the kid from RBC who got to "MF PE shop" while the GS FIG person didn't. Also, no one actually cares about these once you are working - just like no one cares about Penn vs Columbia once you are actually a student.
First is that you can make it to a MF from anywhere - seen people from MM shops like Jefferies go to Blackstone, etc. However, in terms of weighting it by probability for top MF PE exits and general prestige since that's all you guys care about, obviously places like GS/EVR have great exits. I think the major disconnect comes when comparing between boutiques and bulge brackets - imo there are 6 boutiques that generally are better for exits/general "prestige" than all the bulges outside of GS/MS/JPM. These are: Centerview, PJT, Evercore, Lazard, Perella Weinberg, Moelis. Have seen people get all combinations of offers from these 9 banks and ultimately comes down to the people that you've liked better.
People will say group at the mid tier BBs matters alot, which is true to an extent, but I still think the aforementioned banks do better on average even compared to M&A/Sponsors at CS, Citi, etc. Between boutiques like Greenhill, Guggenheim, etc think there's a little more of a toss up with those and the "mid tier" BBs and is a lot more dependent on fit. And then you have low BBs like UBS and other places like RBC/Jefferies/Houlihan which are all good but makes it a little harder. It's not as black and white as everyone thinks it is and at the end of the day doesn't matter.
Who cares? The bank / school ranking threads on WSO, the "which firms are BBs?" the "which firms are EBs?", the "why do BofA employees call the bank BAML," etc. are all stupid and a waste of time. Low quality content everywhere. You should make your bank decisions based on your conversations with people in the industry, not based on this echo chamber where you can pretend to be anyone you want.
Op is the same dude who cares about people calling baml bofa, let him have his moment
I think there's a lot guggenheim shills because they have inferiority complex because they didn't end up at one of the consensus top 6 boutiques tbh and there's a massive drop off. sort of like going to an Ivy vs UI Kelly
I don't see that many Guggenheim posts on this site. It's usually GS TMT vs PJT RSSG bullshit. WSO is an echo chamber that unfairly targets some banks and glorifies others, are you really surprised? It's 99% prospects posting. Once you actually get a job, you'll have friends at other banks and don't feel the need to constantly shit on other people Your post is grossly inaccurate. Ivy vs Kelly? What is this 2010? If you're actually an Analyst (which I doubt), why don't you contribute to threads such as "PE recruitment process," "how to prepare for internship," "internship best practices," etc. instead of low quality stuff like this? I work at a mid-tier BB (CS / Barclays) that gets unfairly shit on by WSO but you don't have to engage in low quality threads Do I have an inferiority complex because I'm not at GS / MS? Nope and I don't know anyone in my group who does because only prospects care about rankings. Banks differ in more ways than historical exit opps