Get an unpaid internship over the summer, then get an MFIN if they are still accepting apps. Use your first semester of MFIN to get a real internship and then leverage all of that for a FT offer during recruiting season.
Man I dunno, you obviously gotta network our brains out...
Consider a masters program at a target or staying on for one more year of university? You got some interviews, which is good. You could convert them into offers; try a more active role in those clubs you mentioned - gives you something more to talk about in interviews.
You really need something. If you have no full time, professional experience, nobody knows if you will be able to function in an office environment.
It sounds absurd, but I am sure you can think of at least a few kids at your college that simply could not function in an office. Companies are hiring more from their own intern pools to minimize their risk...with no work experience, you are a complete unknown.
Get a PWM internship, work with a local acct firm, anything...even work unpaid if needed.
Yeah even outside of banking, the job market is going to be tough for someone with NO experience (internship, co-op, etc....) Most companies now look for some sort of experience.
You give me a gift? *BAM* Thank you note! You invite me somewhere? *POW* RSVP! You do me a favor? *WHAM* Favor returned! Do not test my politeness.
Cold call boutiques there often times are unadvertised positions. I'll be honest you're not very well placed, you have a good GPA, but your from a non-target with no experience. I would contemplate either the MSF or M Acc route. I would try to find an internship at any F500/F1000 in something finance related. I would try for the GE FMP and other similar rotational F500/F1000 finance program. In addition I would look for federal jobs in finance i.e. the federal reserve.
Thanks for all of your suggestions. I should probably point out that I just don't have any finance experience. I have worked at my family health-care business when I got out of high school and both years while in cc. I mostly did purchasing.
I am going to take my gmat in the fall, probably around November, and then apply to a few masters programs. I am looking at Villanova, Duke, UVA, & UT Austin. Also considering LBS mim, Oxford, Cambridge, and Erasmus.
Higheck123Thanks for all of your suggestions. I should probably point out that I just don't have any finance experience. I have worked at my family health-care business when I got out of high school and both years while in cc. I mostly did purchasing.
I am going to take my gmat in the fall, probably around November, and then apply to a few masters programs. I am looking at Villanova, Duke, UVA, & UT Austin. Also considering LBS mim, Oxford, Cambridge, and Erasmus.
Is there anyway you can spin your healthcare business experience into something that sounds more business like? It doesn't even have to finance.
Like, "Applying data-driven analysis, projected regional market demand for stethoscopes for the coming 12 months and purchased accordingly. The forecasts proved to be accurate within X%."
Or "Compared relative returns of products x, y, and z, accounting for historical volatility in sales and predicted turnover". Seriously, if you have worked in an office, you can come up with something you have done and make it sound interesting. Don't lie, just use language that will catch a banker's eye.
Higheck123Thanks for all of your suggestions. I should probably point out that I just don't have any finance experience. I have worked at my family health-care business when I got out of high school and both years while in cc. I mostly did purchasing.
I am going to take my gmat in the fall, probably around November, and then apply to a few masters programs. I am looking at Villanova, Duke, UVA, & UT Austin. Also considering LBS mim, Oxford, Cambridge, and Erasmus.
Is there anyway you can spin your healthcare business experience into something that sounds more business like? It doesn't even have to finance.
Like, "Applying data-driven analysis, projected regional market demand for stethoscopes for the coming 12 months and purchased accordingly. The forecasts proved to be accurate within X%."
Or "Compared relative returns of products x, y, and z, accounting for historical volatility in sales and predicted turnover". Seriously, if you have worked in an office, you can come up with something you have done and make it sound interesting. Don't lie, just use language that will catch a banker's eye.
Good call.
Example: I turned a phone survey job into a "data aquisition and analysis" position, and later on it morphed into "market research". Given a company that won't be around long, or references to people who you trust, you can definitely spin the fuck out of this. (Just make sure you know what you're doing at the new job)
Higheck123Thanks for all of your suggestions. I should probably point out that I just don't have any finance experience. I have worked at my family health-care business when I got out of high school and both years while in cc. I mostly did purchasing.
I am going to take my gmat in the fall, probably around November, and then apply to a few masters programs. I am looking at Villanova, Duke, UVA, & UT Austin. Also considering LBS mim, Oxford, Cambridge, and Erasmus.
Is there anyway you can spin your healthcare business experience into something that sounds more business like? It doesn't even have to finance.
Like, "Applying data-driven analysis, projected regional market demand for stethoscopes for the coming 12 months and purchased accordingly. The forecasts proved to be accurate within X%."
Or "Compared relative returns of products x, y, and z, accounting for historical volatility in sales and predicted turnover". Seriously, if you have worked in an office, you can come up with something you have done and make it sound interesting. Don't lie, just use language that will catch a banker's eye.
That is a great idea. I have to some extent did that on my resume and I think that is one of the reasons I got a lot of feedback on my inquiries. Would I have to prove these things? For example I did not build formal models of our returns but I did apply some kind of analysis in choosing and replacing products. Would interviewers want proof of my analysis?
Dude, I'm giving you an honest opinion, didn't know you're so sensitive.
I mean:
You go to an absolute non-target
Have 0 finance experience
Don't have meaningful extracurriculars
Not even a finance major
No connections and extremely limited potential for networking since few SUNY alums make it to the upper echelon of Wall Street
The only thing decent is your GPA. Out of undergrad, no you have 0 chance getting a good full-time job.
Consider the MSF suggestion above.
The ShitDude, I'm giving you an honest opinion, didn't know you're so sensitive.
I mean:
You go to an absolute non-target
Have 0 finance experience
Don't have meaningful extracurriculars
Not even a finance major
No connections and extremely limited potential for networking since few SUNY alums make it to the upper echelon of Wall Street
The only thing decent is your GPA. Out of undergrad, no you have 0 chance getting a good full-time job.
Consider the MSF suggestion above.
Tool
This is great, he even signed it 'Tool'.
In all seriousness: do your best to find a job or internship and reevaluate in a few months. It IS possible, however unlikely, and I was in not so different a position as you when I started. If you don't get anywhere after a few months, do the above suggestions [in fact, start now].
Should I start applying for FT positions in the fall or should I look for fall, off-cycle internships instead? As far as making my summer as productive as possible without a finance internship do you have any suggestions? I am going to volunteer, take summer courses, but I think I want to add something that will strengthen my resume. Thanks.
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Maybe from someone who is not a total tool.
Get an unpaid internship over the summer, then get an MFIN if they are still accepting apps. Use your first semester of MFIN to get a real internship and then leverage all of that for a FT offer during recruiting season.
Man I dunno, you obviously gotta network our brains out...
Consider a masters program at a target or staying on for one more year of university? You got some interviews, which is good. You could convert them into offers; try a more active role in those clubs you mentioned - gives you something more to talk about in interviews.
Network, network, network
SUNY what? aren't there like a lot of them
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You really need something. If you have no full time, professional experience, nobody knows if you will be able to function in an office environment.
It sounds absurd, but I am sure you can think of at least a few kids at your college that simply could not function in an office. Companies are hiring more from their own intern pools to minimize their risk...with no work experience, you are a complete unknown.
Get a PWM internship, work with a local acct firm, anything...even work unpaid if needed.
Agree with MSF suggestion.
You can always go Big 4 route, though I'm not sure how good Albany and Buffalo is
also:
Just out of curiosity: how do you have no experience at all? Did you work at all?
Yeah even outside of banking, the job market is going to be tough for someone with NO experience (internship, co-op, etc....) Most companies now look for some sort of experience.
Cold call boutiques there often times are unadvertised positions. I'll be honest you're not very well placed, you have a good GPA, but your from a non-target with no experience. I would contemplate either the MSF or M Acc route. I would try to find an internship at any F500/F1000 in something finance related. I would try for the GE FMP and other similar rotational F500/F1000 finance program. In addition I would look for federal jobs in finance i.e. the federal reserve.
Thanks for all of your suggestions. I should probably point out that I just don't have any finance experience. I have worked at my family health-care business when I got out of high school and both years while in cc. I mostly did purchasing.
I am going to take my gmat in the fall, probably around November, and then apply to a few masters programs. I am looking at Villanova, Duke, UVA, & UT Austin. Also considering LBS mim, Oxford, Cambridge, and Erasmus.
Is there anyway you can spin your healthcare business experience into something that sounds more business like? It doesn't even have to finance.
Like, "Applying data-driven analysis, projected regional market demand for stethoscopes for the coming 12 months and purchased accordingly. The forecasts proved to be accurate within X%."
Or "Compared relative returns of products x, y, and z, accounting for historical volatility in sales and predicted turnover". Seriously, if you have worked in an office, you can come up with something you have done and make it sound interesting. Don't lie, just use language that will catch a banker's eye.
Example: I turned a phone survey job into a "data aquisition and analysis" position, and later on it morphed into "market research". Given a company that won't be around long, or references to people who you trust, you can definitely spin the fuck out of this. (Just make sure you know what you're doing at the new job)
That is a great idea. I have to some extent did that on my resume and I think that is one of the reasons I got a lot of feedback on my inquiries. Would I have to prove these things? For example I did not build formal models of our returns but I did apply some kind of analysis in choosing and replacing products. Would interviewers want proof of my analysis?
Dude, I'm giving you an honest opinion, didn't know you're so sensitive.
I mean: You go to an absolute non-target Have 0 finance experience Don't have meaningful extracurriculars Not even a finance major No connections and extremely limited potential for networking since few SUNY alums make it to the upper echelon of Wall Street
The only thing decent is your GPA. Out of undergrad, no you have 0 chance getting a good full-time job.
Consider the MSF suggestion above.
In all seriousness: do your best to find a job or internship and reevaluate in a few months. It IS possible, however unlikely, and I was in not so different a position as you when I started. If you don't get anywhere after a few months, do the above suggestions [in fact, start now].
Should I start applying for FT positions in the fall or should I look for fall, off-cycle internships instead? As far as making my summer as productive as possible without a finance internship do you have any suggestions? I am going to volunteer, take summer courses, but I think I want to add something that will strengthen my resume. Thanks.
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Distinctio vel autem ea quia. Officia dolores ut fugit autem et. Ratione molestiae perspiciatis libero velit quo est. Sed enim alias distinctio voluptas dolores et.
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