A friend of mine ranted how everyone in finance is 6’2 and taller. Way different than the body types found in tech (generalizing of course).
Anymore on the inside with stories of shorter guys doing well in IB?
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Lmfao. There are definitely short king rainmakers out there
Stop worrying about stuff out of your control (height), start working on things in your control (attitude, preparation, work ethic, sociability). Ludicrous to think that any profession, other than maybe basketball, will be dictated by your height.
Good amount of short guys on my team. But at the senior level, average height is like 6'2.
Lower center of gravity = more comfortable sitting at your desk grinding for extended periods of time.
Jk. Haven't seen it matter.
Go back to reddit please
It's really rough out there. Short guys don't even get invited to meetings sometimes because the bank wants to impress the clients with tall chads.
I know one shorter MD (he's ~5'10") but he wears 4 inch lifts daily.
He's low T. Women wear heels, men dont.
Lifts cover the entire sole unlike heels so it's not as obvious. 2 inches is extremely common (and difficult to notice at first glance), 4 inches is definitely on the higher end for what is available.
Is that a joke or you been srs
Oh it's real. I've seen short guys get intentionally put in the worst, most isolated cubes just so any clients that are in for meetings won't see them. The firm put all of the tall guys and the handful of attractive women right near the client boardroom.
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How insecure are some of you?
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My brother in christ you are down bad
You know that scene in wolf of Wall Street where Leo is throwing midgets against a dartboard?
That's what they do to guys below 6” in banking
Yep, if you are shorter than 6 inches you will have a problem
If you're below 6', they just bend over with their hands on their knees like they're talking to a child
I'm 4'10" and comping like cray. Grow some confidence.
You dropped this 👑
The most senior banker I’ve ever met must have been about 5’4. Led a monster group for decades and he’s still a chairman at his bank. Super nice guy and you can tell he’s done well for himself
As a fellow short king (5'8 or 9 depending on whether I wanna round on my Hinge profile) I've noticed that either I'm a good bit taller than the shorter guys in the office or the tall guys tower way over me.
Idk where I'm going with this, just think it's odd that like 5% of the guys are around 5'5" and then almost all the rest are 6 foot or above
Your height is not why you struggle to win offers through virtual interviews.
It’s bad out here, i’m 5’7 and seniors (average 6’3) do not even acknowledge me when we cross paths because they can’t see me.
My job’s in jeopardy now given current economy situation & poor visibility.
Can’t tell if this is serious or not
Stop the cap you aren't even an intern, prospect
I’m 5’7” and my associate pretends I’m Tom Cruise. He told me I’d be in the danger zone if I didn’t scurry along and turn his comments. He’s 6’7” (morning height) and wears monk straps
trying so hard not to laugh @ work
Lmaoo
Monk straps in 2022? I would disregard all of his CIP edits, that dude simply cannot be trusted
But are you taller on a relative basis when you lie down?
Can confirm. Heightism is a real thing.
it only doesn't matter if you're a woman.
if you're a short male, prepared to have your entire career gimped and opportunities lost. sucks, but it is what it is.
As a tall person, I wish this was true. I think its overblown to the point of being almost a myth. I know there's studies but they're from a different time. Also, much of the advantage to height is probably felt in the developmental years. By the time someone is adult age, those effects have played out. So I'm doubtful of the continuing advantages to height beyond that.
It still matters if you are a women, but not so much
yes very true
I am a 5ft female who doesn't really wear heels so has been tough haha
Just a little data, 6'2 is the 96th percentile for US men. So unless banking is literally only taking the top 4% of men, by height, then there will be people shorter than that.
A few random data points that don't have any statistical significance: In my current office I'm only taller than one other guy in my office (of about 10) and I'm 5'10. At my old place I was taller than the CEO and COO, the latter of whom was easily at 5'6. I'm crushing it regardless of the height of my peers tho, so can you.
Putin is short but....Lets not talk this.
That's exactly the reason why he didn't make it into IB and ended up in politics :/
I'm 5'10 on a good day and am taller than a solid 80% of the bankers at my bank. Most of them estimate my height to be 6'2 when it's nowhere close to that. Keep your chins up kings. Height overestimation is real and the average still is somewhere around 5'8 (same as anywhere else in the US)
Surely average height is more than 5’8” come on. Not much taller but still a few inches
If anything they do better. Several MD's were short in my banking time. Maybe the Napoleon thing gives them drive & ambition, I don't know.
short people tend to be very driven and bring a lot of business due to their napoleon complex, so being short is an advantage
Bruce Wasserstein literally looked like Danny Devito when he played the penguin in Batman. I had the unfortunate privilege of seeing him in a man-kini at his Hamptons house. Not a pretty sight - sick house though and a nice guy. My buddy was dating his daughter.
Same with Marc Rowan and Steve Schwarzman, both short kings
I never understood the height thing. If you step outside the Reddit bubble into real life, you see how little it seems to matter. Tbh if you are taller than 6'4 and not playing basketball it's kind of an L - most things in life are built for average height men so a lot of situations are uncomfortable, you tend to have back/spine problems, and lower lifespan as well. Unless you're like 5'2, I've seen what matters more (as cheesy as it is) is confidence and the way someone carries themselves. I have friends that are like 5'6 that can command a room just because of their insane charisma - it's like they have a gravitational force field. On the flipside, there are a ton of tall, awkwardly lanky shy dudes that will be stuck in some back-office job commanding 0 respect.
This. I’m 6’2 and flying outside of first class sucks. I struggle to drive smaller cars. Most of the world seems to be designed for and by shorter people. My dad was 6’5 and ran into even more problems like buying suits, shoes, etc.
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Jesus 6’2”?? That’s like… very tall. Maybe 1/3 are > that? Avg I’d say is like 5’10” for guys
The insecurities on this site never cease to amaze.
Bruhhh. The shit I see on this site sometimes. If this is something you genuinely think/worry about, then you're not gonna make it anywhere in life.
I know quite a bunch of dudes that do not trust men under 5'7 as they tend to compensate for their short height by falsehood and malfeasance. Highschool traumas or something idk
I'm a legit 6'3" barefoot and with shoes on I reach 6'4"
Decent height, I am usually always the tallest person in the room, but I must admit... I wish I was a little bit taller! I wish I was a baller! 🎶
How friendly is game of thrones to shorter men?
I get into arguments with people all the time over this. It's crazy how many kids out here think their life is over because they never hit 6ft. I think the internet allows people to exaggerate certain things. If you look on the internet, anyone under 6ft. isn't considered human, women won't date them, and they can't get leadership positions. If you go outside, you see 5'7" men with girlfriends and families all the time. Jeff Bezos is 5'7". Most famous rappers are less than 6ft. Justin Bieber is 5'9". Let the internet tell it he couldn't get a girlfriend if his life depended on it because of his height. Isn't Tom Cruise like 5'7" or something, and he's considered an international sex symbol? Mayweather is like 5'7" or 5'8," and he has all these women giving him baths on Instagram. Zuckerberg, Gates, Buffett, and Dorsey are all shorter than 6ft. Kevin Hart made a whole career about his height at 5'2". Jocko and Joe Rogan are like 5'6" or 5'7" or something. I bet if Jocko had wanted to become a banker after the SEALs, he would have made MD pretty fast, and no one would treat him like he's a pussy. If you walk out into the world defeated over things you cannot change, then people will pick up on that energy, and your height negatively affecting you will be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Yeah, some people will mistreat short people, but those same people probably mistreat servers, are rude to their mothers, don't consider Cornell a real Ivy, and they don't like anyone that did not go to an Ivy. I'm trying to say that they're probably people you wouldn't want near you anyway. If a company is treating you poorly because of your height, leave, but it's probably not your height holding you back.
Just be a badass and take control of everything in your control, and you will have a good life. If you go up to a girl and be like, "You'll probably say no because I'm not 6ft, but will you go out with me?" of course, she's not going to take you seriously. If you can't look your MD or anyone in the eye because you're shorter than them, and YOU think you're less of a human being then, of course, they're going to stick you in the corner until you quit.
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