Move bank to make more money?

I have been working at the same bank for 5 years now.

The only reason why I’m in IB is money.

Do you guys recommend I switch bank if I want to make more money? Do people who switch bank actually make more money? If so, why is that, is it because you get a sign in bonus? How much is the signing bonus?


PS: I am based in London 

thanks all

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Based on previous WSO threads, here are some insights regarding switching banks to make more money, particularly in the context of Investment Banking (IB):

  1. Switching Banks for Higher Pay:

    • Sign-On Bonuses: Yes, switching banks can often result in higher pay, primarily due to sign-on bonuses. For example, in London, the standard signing bonus for a 1st-year Analyst in IB is around £6-7k.
    • Relocation Fees: Some banks also cover relocation fees, which might include paying for one month at a hotel to help you find a flat.
  2. Reasons for Higher Pay:

    • Headhunters and Better Offers: Headhunters often reach out to offer better gigs at different firms, which can include higher base salaries, better bonuses, and other perks.
    • Performance-Based Pay: In IB, pay is often tied to performance and the number of deals you bring in. Moving to a bank with a more aggressive deal flow or better market position can result in higher bonuses.
  3. General Trends:

    • Frequent Moves: It's common in IB for professionals to switch firms frequently. This can be driven by the pursuit of better compensation packages, career advancement opportunities, or more favorable working conditions.

For more detailed discussions and personal experiences, you can refer to the following threads on Wall Street Oasis: - https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/job-search/signing-bonus-relocati…</a">Signing bonus, relocation fees (London) - https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/why-do-people-…</a">Why do people in banking change firms so much?

These threads provide valuable insights and real-life examples from professionals in the industry.

Sources: A Guide for Switching From Commercial Banking to Investment Banking, Signing bonus, relocation fees (London), A Guide for Switching From Commercial Banking to Investment Banking, Is it a mistake to be Loyal? Should I lateral?, Why do people in banking change firms so much?

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Depends. If you do see yourself in this industry long-term (even if that reason is just the money), then the long term needs to be your main goal here, and you want to position yourself somewhere where you can grow.You want to be at a team which has good dealflow, a support mentor / senior group in your team specifically, and where there is room for you to learn / develop. The big bucks are a long game. It's difficult to really understand any of this for a team you haven't worked for, but you should have a good sense for it in your current team. Team is as important as bank - if even a low "tier" bank is commited to IB at all, and has 2 outstanding teams and 5 below average teams, it pays VERY well to be in one of those 2 teams. That said, yes, some banks do pay more, and outside of being a partner at a small boutique, the BBs / EBs (especially American ones) tend to pay more - but this is quite marginal versus the effect of your own performance.

In the short term, my view is that it usually doesn't pay. (1) Yes you can negotiate a sign-on bonus ("how much?" is a bit of a naive question - it depends how much they want you and there's not much of a benchmark - as an Associate though, and in this market, I doubt you'll have a lot of leverage). (2) Understand that as the new guy, you will probably get shafted on your year-end bonus for the stub year (and maybe even the following year); sorry but daddy has other mouths to feed in the team, and as the new guy you're low on the "flight risk" list. (3) You're going to be on probation for 6 months immediately and you know what that means.

 

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