America is in a very serious decline!! It will take decades to recover
Hello! I have been a big Fan of WSO.
I’m concerned because I want to let you know what’s going on in the real world of corporate America
America is struggling because people don’t care. Everyone is looking out for themselves
Comedy/ podcasting is peaking at an all-time high because a lot of millennials are lazy and they want to leave work at 4 or 5:00 pm to listen to their so-called smart funny comedians.
Gen Z don’t want to work at all and they don’t have solid reliable sources that can teach them something about having strong work ethics
I feel like a lot of Americans just gave up, and they don’t want to change. You cannot blame the government.
There is a lot of favoritism that’s given to certain people in powerful positions that are making things worse
Americans don’t want to work together.
There are crazy online personalities who are telling younger men you don’t have to work. You can create your own business online.
Of course America is till a beautiful country and there are beautiful spots like California.
I feel people just don’t care and they gave up.
By the way! That’s what I have been seeing in the last few years!
P.S. I’m an American citizen not because I wanted to be an American. I’m American because I was born here. Maybe that’s the problem: you decided to judge someone without knowing his or her true story.
Every generation has its stupid lazy people. Just becuase it is easier to showcase this in the Gen Z and the millennial generations doesn't mean it is actually more common. I've heard an endless river of stories from lazy idiots from the 70s.
Mods please delete this AI slop
I only skimmed the OP because there was too much rambling.
I think it's what Dalio has been writing about ...
https://www.amazon.com/Changing-World-Order-Nations-Succeed/dp/19821602…
If people don't want to work themselves to death, then there's a reason why. Calling people lazy is a lazy argument. It's dismissive; if people stop caring, there's always a reason why. If people don't see the benefit in hard work for a corporation there's a reason why.
Your grammar indicates you are not an American and have no idea what you are talking about.
Visit a rural part of the Midwest and go to a family owned farm. I guarantee your opinion will change. Folks in corporate may be entitled and quick to whine about certain life circumstances, but the 12 y/o who milks cows 3x a day, or the lineman who runs towards a downed power line in a thunderstorm (and the millions of people like them) are, have been, and always will be the folks who keep the country running.
Is Gen Z lazy? Not really. Is it easier to find a lazy young person when you’re looking only for them? Absolutely.
People in my generation need inspiration. Older generations had something to rise up to; Greatest Generation had the depression and WW2, boomers had crazy social changes, X had United States world supremacy, but the millennials weren’t forced to be inspired by something, and it looks like Gen Z might go down that same path.
We’ll go down that same path unless we reject the current culture that is clearly not working, and return to some semblance of tradition (some of the happiest people in Gen Z are fellow devout Christians, the most depressed are atheists.) I’m agreeing with you that the corporate class in the USA is not in an awesome spot right now, but please don’t repeat the same tagline that “the younger generation doesn’t want to work!!!” Some of the hardest working and most disciplined people I know are my generational peers.
Agreed until here, but to each their own.
Fair enough man! Just sharing personal experience but by no means am I saying it’s the best way. What are your ideas for a solution?
While I agree it’s bad to generalize about a whole generation, it sounds like your understanding of past generations rising up to something is sourced largely from cherry picked word of mouth/curated online sources. I’m a non-target from an immigrant family who in one generation bridged the gap from government subsidized housing in what most people here would consider slums to top-BB “paradise” (lol). If you think putting a family on your back through multiple financial crises is not a call to arms, you’re delusional (but to be fair other people say similar nonsense about gen Z so you’re not alone or “unreasonable” relatively by any means).
I will say the amount of no-responses I get from gen Z to follow ups for coffee chats is bizarre… i.e. they reach out with their LLM drafted emails, I try to throw them a bone because I want to pay it forward for all the bros who helped me on my climb, and they don’t respond because of freeze-up anxiety, attention span, whatever it is… IDK but that mirrors the lack of attention span that I see in junior bankers who will straight up tell the VP/D/MD in the bullpen “I just can’t get motivated to make these slides right now… want to get a coffee?” Again, normal human behavior (and even in some cases good to push back on an archaic authoritarian power dynamic) but really really mentally weak in my admittedly narrow/hardo view.
I’m grateful that I even have the opportunity to be slayed by deal flow, and complain about junior competency and I know my experience does not speak to everyone’s. But I do also think growing up with the proliferation of dopamine based social media and subsequent mental rot/fallout is probably really bad.
I feel bad for the kids who in HS lived on snapchat and could SEE people having parties without them. The anxiety that follows and desperation to be relevant via making fake lives and personas on a carefully curated platform. Doomscrolling to live vicariously/search for meaning/unplug from engaging with life…
I know teens now who do not know how to search for publicly available primary sources. Many young adults who consult AI and use it for daily shit and being okay with the opaque sources + x% chance of error. Even I have hours of screentime a week from mostly stupid apps that in the early 2000s would have been/was devoted to GTL (gym, tan, laundry!!! jk and obviously a jersey shore plug but you get my point here). I’m not getting those hours back and it never really makes me happier or more fulfilled, just a way to habitually disassociate and ruin my sleep.
Sorry for the disorganized thoughts, I figured I’d offer my two cents on this shitpost because I’ve been thinking about this a lot over the past year(s). Gen Z is cool, don’t get it twisted, but I do think a ton of things out of their control have skewed the playing field to tend toward loss of focus and vibing with less-than-perfect information. So many analysts and associates do not remember living through any real market crisis and it shows in upsetting ways.
Thank you for your perspective! I agree with a lot of your points here, especially surrounding attention span. The people that I’d encounter in college who were chronically online; on the “dopamine treadmill” that I like to call it, are harming themselves. It’s not just something they do to pass time, they’re seriously injuring themselves.
It’s surprising to me that, with the level of information out there about what constant scrolling through reels, (from any social media company) there isn’t more of a push to get young people off of their devices. Do you think there’s a way to either stop or reverse the damage that’s been done?
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