Everyone(especially the attractive ones) gets locked up real quick. Not as many options out there like nyc, Boston, etc. There are more single girls in nyc than guys, there’s a lot of talent to choose from.

 

Why did you find this to be the case?

Was it owing to the ratio of [available] females to males, or the personality of Houston women,or the appearance of Houston women, or the culture of Houston itself, or some other factors?

 

They really are. I got sent out to SF for 4 months once for a project, with a fellow NY colleague. We'd get lunch together everyday and noticed after a few days that we weren't seeing any attractive girls. After a while we started calling it "the girl of the month" as in, any time one of us saw one we'd point her out to the other saying that's the girl of the month because that's the hottest girl we'll see all month.

 

SF - average girl is a 6, any tinder dates will be a catfish as the girl will usually come 100-200 basis points below your initial rating of her. lack of any attractive white girls, and any asian girl above a 7 is dating an 11/10 european guy that is a model and rock climber.

UC Berk - good, Stanford - average, USF - avoid

LA - best looking women, average girl is a 7.5. if you have banker money you want to live closer to the ocean: santa monica, venice, manhattan beach, el segundo. that being said the high waisted jean, artsy fartsy, tight, hot gal can't afford to and lives downtown and goes to regular kick ass roof top parties. unfortunately thats the only good thing about downtown, its Fallujah Iraq during the day. If you want to get that hot girl, you're gonna have to bite the bullet and live downtown. (i didn't and the women i dated were attractive but they were also all spoiled sorority girls and not the artsy girls wearing balenciaga triple s -- that make you want to give up finance and struggle with her in the trenches of teen angst)

Art Community College - excellent, HS Drop out - average, USC/LMU/UCLA - avoid

NYC - great looking women, average girl is a 7. not a ton of experience, just interned here but was catfished numerous times by moby dick. becareful~! managed to date a few solid 8's from NYU. Had to pretend I was vegan, but that was because I was super into bi vegans at the time

Columbia - ok, NYU - ok, Baruch - shoot on sight

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Is DTLA really that bad of a place to live? I heard it was more of a ghost town. So not too crowded.

DTLA has nice luxury high-rise apartment buildings, but the area is a disaster due to liberal policies letting the homeless crisis get out of hand.

 

What was it like dating sorority girls at the time? Were you working already?

 
Jamie_Diamond:
LA - best looking women, average girl is a 7.5. if you have banker money you want to live closer to the ocean: santa monica, venice, manhattan beach, el segundo. that being said the high waisted jean, artsy fartsy, tight, hot gal can't afford to and lives downtown and goes to regular kick ass roof top parties. unfortunately thats the only good thing about downtown, its Fallujah Iraq during the day. If you want to get that hot girl, you're gonna have to bite the bullet and live downtown. (i didn't and the women i dated were attractive but they were also all spoiled sorority girls and not the artsy girls wearing balenciaga triple s -- that make you want to give up finance and struggle with her in the trenches of teen angst)

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First and foremost dating is a numbers game and considering that all the west coast cities have more men than women you can cross them off the list. Meanwhile I've read that the Midwest and northeast cities have more women than men so big cities lik NYC, Chicago, or Boston (lots of universities) are probably your best bet. Everyone I know who has lived in NYC or Chicago say its great for dating (be prepared to spend $$$ if in NYC). While I've never lived in Miami (visited though and have friends who live there), I've heard its a pretty good place as well.

I can speak from experience from growing up in Seattle that its NOT a good place date unless ugly girls are your type. In Seattle, you often see guys that are between an 8-10 in looks dating a girl who is a 2-4. The PNW in general is known for its hairy leftist mountain girls so beware. There are so many ugly women between Seattle and San Francisco it doesn't surprise why a lot of guys become gay. Whats weird is once you cross the Canadian border to Vancouver BC the girls look waaaayyy better.

When I lived abroad in Shanghai, dating was almost too easy. The only way I can imagine a white guy being single in Shanghai is a) you're gay, b) you're mentally retarded or missing limbs, or c) you have the willpower of a thousand unuchs

I currently live in Honolulu and dating out here is a mixed bag for long-term dating, but one of the best places for short-term/one night stands. Local girls out here are either great or retarded and nothing really in between. However, the one benefit is what I refer to as the "charlie sheen effect" where you basically meet hot babes, bang em on their vacation, and then they fly back home. Whats even better is unlike Mr. Sheen, It really didn't cost me anything (though it might be beneficial to buy dinner for those hot Australian twins).

 

I'm a lesbian and stayed in Shanghai for a year during my studies. Dating was the same for me as a white girl. No trouble getting dates and taking her home. Similar situation in Singapore I found out recently.

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Just curious, how long ago was it when you were in Shanghai? My time over there was back in mid-late 2000s. Most Chinese are pretty conservative when it comes to things like homosexuality, but I can imagine this no longer being the case among the younger generation.

 

Yep there are some gay / lesbian bars in the city, quite good scene - crowd, music, vibes, etc

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Guywithtoaster:

I can speak from experience from growing up in Seattle that its NOT a good place date unless ugly girls are your type. In Seattle, you often see guys that are between an 8-10 in looks dating a girl who is a 2-4. The PNW in general is known for its hairy leftist mountain girls so beware. There are so many ugly women between Seattle and San Francisco it doesn't surprise why a lot of guys become gay. Whats weird is once you cross the Canadian border to Vancouver BC the girls look waaaayyy better.

I was in Seattle for Veterans Day weekend and I almost couldn't believe it, the only attractive woman I saw was a barista when I lost my phone an hour before my flight back.

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I went to this dude's show in NYC circa 2014 and had a drink with him at the after party.
https://www.greatlovedebate.com/2017

He claims the Midwest is an untapped territory of quality females (think MN/WI/MI/IL/IN). I recall a lot more natural blonde hair while growing up and now visiting Chicago compared to the bleachy black root look I see around NYC.

Some of his funny rants. 1. East Coast - Lots of gold diggers. Ladies only care how much money men make. 2. West Coast - Lots of fake folks. Women want to be respected as a lady while wearing 4 inch heels with a big fake chest/chin/nose/lashes/etc. 3. Seattle/Denver - Men want to hike while women want to craft.
4. Everywhere else, women want an instant committed relationship while the men want instant s3x.

He didn't have too much to add about TX or FL.

It was a fun show. I met a few females after the show, exchanged numbers, and even partied with a few in later weeks.

 

Don't live in Tampa, live in St. Petersburg. Tampa and St. Pete can be a little bit rough in some parts so downtown St.Pete is the best option. The women/area is beautiful with tons of bars and it is way better than Tampa in terms of bar hopping/dating with ease of walking and everything. I lived dt and loved it, did not even visit Tampa too often.

 

finding a SO at church sounds like the most surefire way to become a basic vanilla couple without any spark, where you stop having sex as soon as you have 4 children and move to a suburban house that looks exactly like the other 1000 houses in your development

I’m a fun guy. Obviously I love the game of basketball. I mean there’s more questions you have to ask me in order for me to tell you about myself. I'm not just gonna give you a whole spill... I mean, I don't even know where you're sitting at
 

You have a flaw in your logic, all the 7s+ go for men with money in St. Petersburg. Standard Russian Woman logic, you could be a fat balding fuck who chain smokes, but if you can get her some louboutin's and gucci... she'll suck you dry.

 

Can confirm, lots of pretty girls at the beer halls in Munich. Have you been to Berlin too? There were a lot of great people there and the partying was much better than Munich, Munich comparatively seemed more boring outside of the beer halls and skiing.

Quant (ˈkwänt) n: An expert, someone who knows more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing.
 
Hardo from Germany:
They shouldn't live in Germany, I men what's the point of ethnic Germans being a minority in their own country...

Well what if these "foreigners" start drinking your beer, eating your sausages and sauerkrauts, and driving your cars? Culturally they become completely German.

What if then? Any country should benefit from influx of different people as long as you figure out how to assimilate them into the culture and have them be part of your culture as well.

You sound awful a lot like that guy with funny mustaches 70 years ago.

 

Most of these foreigners are from 3rd world countries. Their religion does not allow them to drink beer or eat most of the sausages (Sauerkraut is also more of an NA meme, most Germans do not really eat that stuff often). Their only connection to our cars is trying to flex with their 15+ years old BMW 3series in front of clubs.... The vast majority of them will never become culturally German, none of them will be an ethnic German.

I have no problem with small groups of guys from Western countries immigrating to Germany, as they pretty much already share a lot of European culture with us and pretty much everyone of them will integrate perfectly into our society after at most one generation. Sadly our (and EU) politicians seem to favor importing millions (!) of low-skilled immigrants from mostly poor parts of the world, all while ethnic Germans have to bankroll this replacement with 50+% tax rates.....

If you really think about it for a second, maybe the guy with the mustache wasn't all that awful after all.

Si vis pacem, para bellum
 

I'm clearly not German, but I do know history well. Back in the Roman days, Germans were the barbarians everybody hated.

When the Romans finally decided they should accept Germanic immigrants, Romans went, "uhh look at these barbaric German immigrants only drinking our wine and food just to show off they made it in our society. Look at their Pagan beliefs and weird customs. Yada yada yada". There are some racist Roman writers writing about this shit just like how nowadays there are racist people writing about this stuff.

Who knows what would happen in the next 20-30 years? For the most part, immigration is good as long as you can help them assimilate and become productive.

Assimilation takes time and ifnthenimmigranrs aren't even trying or are not working hard, then I get why people might hate them.

 

Well these Roman writing were hardly racist, since both Roman and Germans were (and still are) white. It's also fairly known that major migration waves, both legal immigration from their provinces but also illegal immigration from Northern tribes, played a crucial role in the collapse of the Western Roman Empire. Kinda ironic, isn't it?

Controlled/limited immigration from other Western countries is indeed productive. I'd even agree that the vast majority of them assimilate very well. But what is happening right now is more of an ethnic and cultural replacement...

Si vis pacem, para bellum
 

It's still unreasonable to bash them purely based on their religion and rather significant differences compared to people of other Western origins.

1) Yes Romans and Germans were both white. But their cultures were significantly different. Different religions , different customs, different ways of viewing the world, ... Controlled immigration of the certain Gemrnic tribes worked out fairly well. But the Romans fought the majority of the Germanic tribes, which was costly and damaging. As the Roman hegemony declined and other powers rose, Roman empire grew weaker and weaker. And when the Visgoths came, they were treated like shit and Romans made yet another enemy. When a country becomes weak and unstable, it is reasonable to allow immigration to allow some fresh perspectives. Once you start isolating yourself, then things become an issue. Simultaneously, the Eastern Roman Empire was accepting a wide variety of views and people. After, the Arabian powers did so, often placing reasonably tolerant (by the standard of middle ages) rules on foreigners and people of different views. Think about who continued on the scholarly excellence after Rome fell and the European kingdoms were busy chasing God and not advancing much. They don't call it the Dark ages for no reason...

2) Difference in culture and religion is not a measure of whether some people should be allowed to immigrate or not. It's a measure how difficult assimilation could be. There are gonna be considerable number of these "3rd world" country people who would want to assimilate and contribute to the society in some way. Of course there are gonna be bad eggs. But you have bad eggs who are ethnic Germans too don't you???

Let me give you another example. Back in the early 1800s in the US, the Americans of English descent ruled pretty much. 1st batch of immigration early and mid 1800s: the German and Scandanavian immigrants came, they were shunned. No body liked them. It took them a while to assimilate to the society and have impacts of their own. Hamburgers? Hot dogs? These typical American food were derived from types of foods that these immigrants brought. 2nd wave of immigrants: Italians, Irish, and Polish people. This was late 1800s. They were treated even worse. First of all, they were mostly Catholic. Second of all, they weren't ethnically derived from "Germanic" tribes (Anglo-Saxons were created from branches of Germanic tribes). These people were treated unfairly and discriminated against. It actually wasn't until the early or mid 1900s until they were accepted to be part of their society. Pizzas, chicken parm with lots of cheese are remnants of Italian immigrants that are now commonplace in the US. Then came the Hispanics, who are still being discriminated against. But for the most part, they are slowly becoming more assimilated. Hell Americans love Mexican food.

I also know it for a fact that Germany had Turkish immigrants. Some tension still exists. But Turkish domer kebabs are almost now part of modern German livelihood for the young.

Once you can see beyond the superficial differences in color, religion, and culture, you'll actually see that people are the fucking same everywhere in the world. Some are smart, some are dumb. Some work hard, some are lazy shitheads. Some are nice and some are assholes.

 

"Difference in culture and religion is not a measure of whether some people should be allowed to immigrate or not." That's your opinion, but man people tend to disagree. Not everybody wants their country to become a multicultural failure.

"There are gonna be considerable number of these "3rd world" country people who would want to assimilate and contribute to the society in some way." Their "willingness to assimilate" (which most of them, at least in Germany do not have) is good and all but an increasing number of ethnic Germans does not want more foreigners in their country, regardless of their intentions and work ethic.

Your entire point about the US, for me at least, confirms that white people sure can assimilate even if takes some time. You conveniently left out the black people and (at least from the POV of an European who can just observe the US from the outside) Hispanics do not seem to assimilate that well apart from their food...

"I also know it for a fact that Germany had Turkish immigrants. Some tension still exists. But Turkish domer kebabs are almost now part of modern German livelihood for the young." First of all Döner originates from Berlin. As a fellow "young guy" I can also attest that it is simply popular food because it is the cheapest food out there, also far more popular with foreigners and ethnic Germans. "Some tensions" is of course also a very generous way of saying high crime rates, largely no net contribution to the country etc.

"Once you can see beyond the superficial differences in color, religion, and culture, you'll actually see that people are the fucking same everywhere in the world." The Bell Curve (and other IQ theories/statistics), crime statistics, hell even the history and therefor the development of different regions lead me to disagree with your opinion.

"Some are smart, some are dumb." The Bell Curve comes to mind.

"Some work hard, some are lazy shitheads." Unemployment statistics (sorted by race) in the US come to mind.

"Some are nice and some are assholes." Crime statistics (sorted by race) in the US come to mind.

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Hardo from Germany:
"Difference in culture and religion is not a measure of whether some people should be allowed to immigrate or not." That's your opinion, but man people tend to disagree. Not everybody wants their country to become a multicultural failure.

"There are gonna be considerable number of these "3rd world" country people who would want to assimilate and contribute to the society in some way." Their "willingness to assimilate" (which most of them, at least in Germany do not have) is good and all but an increasing number of ethnic Germans does not want more foreigners in their country, regardless of their intentions and work ethic.

Your entire point about the US, for me at least, confirms that white people sure can assimilate even if takes some time. You conveniently left out the black people and (at least from the POV of an European who can just observe the US from the outside) Hispanics do not seem to assimilate that well apart from their food...

"I also know it for a fact that Germany had Turkish immigrants. Some tension still exists. But Turkish domer kebabs are almost now part of modern German livelihood for the young." First of all Döner originates from Berlin. As a fellow "young guy" I can also attest that it is simply popular food because it is the cheapest food out there, also far more popular with foreigners and ethnic Germans. "Some tensions" is of course also a very generous way of saying high crime rates, largely no net contribution to the country etc.

"Once you can see beyond the superficial differences in color, religion, and culture, you'll actually see that people are the fucking same everywhere in the world." The Bell Curve (and other IQ theories/statistics), crime statistics, hell even the history and therefor the development of different regions lead me to disagree with your opinion.

"Some are smart, some are dumb." The Bell Curve comes to mind.

"Some work hard, some are lazy shitheads." Unemployment statistics (sorted by race) in the US come to mind.

"Some are nice and some are assholes." Crime statistics (sorted by race) in the US come to mind.

Why would black people, who have been in the U.S. longer than most whites, need to "assimilate"? Their culture is American culture... or are you of the impression only the white definition of American culture counts as American culture? Ik I'm responding to a troll who's praised Goering on this very forum that shouldn't be taken seriously but I'm curious. Ik you're openly a racist piece of shit that should be banned from the site expeditiously but I just wanted to ask you that one question.

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Innately, intelligence has nothing to do with race. Those results you're discussing is a product of environment.

Let's say you're from one of these 3rd world country. Some leaders in your country fucked up before you were even born. So now you have shitty education. You might be pretty smart, but without the proper nurturing, you're not gonna grow your thoughts much.

 
Hardo from Germany:
Well these Roman writing were hardly racist, since both Roman and Germans were (and still are) white. It's also fairly known that major migration waves, both legal immigration from their provinces but also illegal immigration from Northern tribes, played a crucial role in the collapse of the Western Roman Empire. Kinda ironic, isn't it?

Controlled/limited immigration from other Western countries is indeed productive. I'd even agree that the vast majority of them assimilate very well. But what is happening right now is more of an ethnic and cultural replacement...

an actual comment posted to "Which City Has the best dating scene?" on WSO in 2019

 

I can't believe the first comment about Charlotte is this far down in this dumpster fire of a thread. I get that Charlotte isn't as big and is more regional than the other cities on the list, but ... SOUTHERN GIRLS, people.

Disclaimer: married a southern girl

"Son, life is hard. But it's harder if you're stupid." - my dad
 

I am a virgin who has barely touched a girl and I'm in SF. I also moved here several months ago from Massachusetts. I've tried all the dating apps but I don't have the physical stature and appearance to win over a fuck or bad boy. How do you recommend I get laid or find a girl?

Does approaching girls in public on the streets work? I think I have enough confidence to pull it off. I don't want to do bars that much because I don't have any friends and don't want to be alone and just randomly jump into a group. Most importantly, I don't want my coworkers seeing me lolol. Can you guys let me know if approaching girls in public works? I see a lot of pretty girls in SF who I would never imagine would be on dating apps and I really want to try to ask them out given everyone thinks SF has virtually no hot girls.

 

Lol is this Mo?

Really though, go to a bar. Also, you don't need to lead with you being virgin because your demeanor will give it away before you say anything.

 

Can confirm the negatives about Los Angeles in this thread, specifically if you are looking for a high quality woman for the long term. Also can confirm that you should always avoid the UCLA/USC chicks. It's not as bad as SF as the women out here are pretty, but many of the egos out here are astronomically high.

Chicks here are like cars you buy here: Always lie about the mileage and don't turn over in the morning when its sub 60 degrees.

Its also one of the widest spread cities in the country, so if you live out in the Santa Monica area, you are are stuck in the west side, if you live in Pasadena, you are stuck in the land of trustfund girls, Armenians, and yellow fever, and if you live in DTLA, you have typhus.

That being said, Orange county, specifically Newport Beach and Laguna areas, have some of the warmest and friendliest well-to-do girls west of Texas. There is also some cute and religious women up in the north Hollywood/Santa Clarita area if you are looking to tie the knot. Your commute will still suck

There is nothing cozier than dating a Newport Beach preppy girl, reading the 48 Laws of Power on Balboa Peninsula in the morning while she gets the sailboat ready in the backdrop of the Newport Center Skyline before going into the office at 9. Well, besides Nantucket, but our weather is better.

 

Saw a thread on Reddit the other day about Bumble chicks from NYC.

The profile: -white woman -liberal -has a 6 figure job -in her late 30s, early 40s -''looking for the right man and wants to have kids''

Oh no no no no no

Never discuss with idiots, first they drag you at their level, then they beat you with experience.
 

How did I miss this thread?

At a high level, we need to divide men into 2 groups: the elite and the mere mortals. The former is usually tall good looking successful white men; these bros will crush it anywhere, and they laugh at threads like this. For the latter, you have to be more strategic and honestly assess your strengths and weaknesses. These traits include height, looks, race, money, pedigree, hobbies, family background. To women, it's all fair game.

NYC: it's true that there are more women than men, but this is deceptive because the statistic includes women of all ages. If you look at single women in their 20s and 30s, there are actually more men than women. NYC is also home to some of the wealthiest and successful men on the planet. Good luck getting top talent if you're an average Joe making $300K/year in banking, slaving away on Excel and PowerPoint. NYC is a rich man's playground.

Chicago: much more down to earth than NYC. If you're an average fratty white guy who possesses an encyclopedic knowledge of sports and can drink Natty Light like it's water, this is your Mecca. Even a dad bod is fine, as long as you have a decent job, was in the right frat, and has lot of Midwestern friends. If you are not white, your mileage may vary.

Seattle: you are a white guy with a powerful Asian fetish that cannot be denied or you are ok with not getting laid because the Amazon/Microsoft RSUs are your sustenance.

SF: same as Seattle with respect to white guys with a powerful Asian fetish, not quite as bad as Seattle because there actually are a decent number of attractive women who have moved there in the past 5 years due to the tech firms maturing and hiring women in jobs such as marketing, HR, product, finance. But good luck landing them unless you are a white CHAD with the chiseled jaw of a young Richard Gere, degrees from Harvard/Stanford, and a job at an elite PE/VC/HF or founder of a unicorn.

LA: hottest women in the country. The physical talent is mind blowing. But as the posters above articulated, the city is super spread out, so distance is a major hinderance to one's social life. If you live in santa monica/venice/marina del rey, going out to Hollywood might as well be a long distance relationship. Downtown? Forget about it! In addition, the LA women are super flaky and shallow. A typical date conversation will involve them bragging about how many IG followers they have and giving you a hard time if you don't have an iPhone. The odds of meeting an attractive smart successful woman in LA is extremely slim.

Finally, it is important to note that dating apps has exacerbated female hypergamy, making the dating scene significantly worse for men. Studies show that the top 1% of men get around 80% of matches, and with the abundance of choices available through apps, vast majority of men are screwed. This trend will only get worse, as apps are now the #1 way couples are meeting. The long-term social and cultural trend will be devastating as young men will increasingly become sexless, frustrated, and angry.

 

The way people behave. They refuse to admire theircontemporaries, the people whose lives they share. No, but to be admired by Posterity—people they’ve never met and never will—that’s what they set their hearts on. You might as well be upset at not being a hero to your great-grandfather.

heister: Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad. https://arthuxtable.com/
 

With dating apps becoming the #1 way that couples are being made, how truly do the average to above average men stand out? I feel like I'd be better off if I approached a beautiful woman on the streets...yeah, I'm talking day game. I mean seriously though, how else would you get the chance to even talk to or be seen and not left swiped by a 7,8,9? I feel like dating apps make it so even if you're a good catch, the woman will think the person right after you in the queue will be slightly taller than you and maybe look cuter. I've thought this myself as I swipe through women.

I am genuinely considering approaching women on the street and trying to get their numbers. I am sometimes in the SF area and feel considering the vibe of nerdy tech guys that many beautiful women don't get approached that often in the day (in the bars, probably all the time)

 

I can attest to this. I’m still in college but dating aps very heavily skew the game. I have 10x more success just meeting women in natural settings (bars, class, friends of friends) than dating apps. Definitely not a chad, but the amount of matches I get are disproportionate relative to what I can pull in real life. I suspect some of this may be because my pictures and bio look like shit, but who the fuck knows

 

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Interested in health tech, consulting, and entrepreneurship.
 

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Winners bring a bigger bag than you do. I have a degree in meritocracy.
 

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Jamoldo
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From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”