Giving up MF PE offer to try to be in a city/bank/group with friends?

Incoming 2023 intern at a MF PE shop in a city where I don't have any friends. Return offers are historically very high and I've spoken to people at the group who doubt that will change, even for this summer. 

Recently, I've been reflecting a lot of what I want out of my job and I think I need to be with people close to me. In my group, I would be the only analyst and I would be relatively alone in terms of camaraderie in the analyst class. Additionally, the city I am heading to is on the west coast and is one that none of my friends are heading to, as I attend an east coast target school. I was considering re-recruiting for a couple of NYC mid-tier BBs and EBs targeting groups where I have a lot of friends heading to. Just in my head, working in the same group as my friends sounds incredibly fun, although I assume banking is banking, no matter how you cut it.

Additionally, I know recruiting this year is going horribly for current sophomores and likely the FT lateral market will be dead as well. So this may not even be feasible. In terms of re-recruiting for MF PE in NYC, quite frankly, I feel like I managed to slip through the cracks to get my current offer once. I'm not sure I would be able to do it again and re-recruit successfully in a depressed job market.

Would I just be shooting myself in the foot by making this career decision? I never thought I would be someone to compromise on my career for my personal life / social life but here I am.

 
Most Helpful

MF FT recruiting is slim to none even in good markets, and even with a stellar MF brand I think banking FT spots are going to be very hard to come by. You would also have to spend the entire summer networking instead of doing well at your internship.

IMO - mentally agree with yourself that you'll do it for one year. It can be really good to get out of your comfort zone and make some different friends - take this as a growth period and really try to put yourself out there. If you still hate it at the 1 year mark, you have enough experience to move firms or ask your MF for a transfer to NYC. But I wouldn't pull out of this before you even start. 

 

Has to be Ares. Silver Lake and KKR Menlo have shit return offer rates, and these are also the only west coast MFs that hire for SA aside from Ares. Source: incoming 2024 MF PE SA who recruited at all MFs.

 

You are young and will make new friends. I would advise taking this offer and giving it an earnest shot. This is the best time to move to a new city and try something different, completely out of your comfort zone! I wish I could do that, but if I want to maintain my relationship with my gf, it's off the table.

Also, you have no idea if you will actually remain friends with these people, relationships change after college.

 

Agree with above. Unfortunately a lot of “maintaining friends” has to do with proximity — I’m sure you can relate to having a tough time keeping up with high school friends once you get to college. I’d highly recommend staying with the current firm and being confident in yourself that you’ll make friends wherever you go. On a related note, you definitely don’t want to feel the regret/“what if” that you might end up feeling if you change your career path for college friends at 20 years old.

 

In the same way should shouldn’t be picking where you go to college based on your highschool friends, you shouldn’t be making decisions in your career based on having friends. Your friends will be moving in and out of the NYC as time passes and you’re so young that it’s not too hard to put yourself out there and meet new people.

 

If you don’t mind sharing, could you elaborate on your story? What kind of decision did you make, when did you do it (right after college or waiting sometime a few months/years after graduation), and what do you think the long term impacts of your decision on your friendships/relationships/career?

 

Disagree with above. I am still in college but those of my friends that went to the west coast were miserable during their SA with small intern class sizes (5-10 people) where they don’t click with interns and can’t find a balance between social and work life. Apart from this small class, everyone around you is much older and you won’t make good “outside of work friends/true genuine connections” fresh out of college with people five years older.

Granted if you only have this one offer you take it, but if you can pull off a decent NYC IB offer I would do it. So many friends who went to NYC IB/PE or whatever else could handle the long hours because they could grab a drink with their friend after work, and have plenty of kids their age to make friends with who are in a similar job and understand what they’re going through. Other people might say otherwise but genuine friendships that last a lifetime if you sustain them will make you much happier than prestige or a “dream job” that you haven’t even worked and don’t know you like. Life is all about happiness at the end of the day.

 

It's an internship not a FT move, and even if it were FT the hiring market is a blood bath right now and 1 in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush (you possible "alternatives" which are not guaranteed). MF offer in terms of difficulty is much higher to secure than a banking one and choosing to follow your friends for work/internship is really short-sighted. If you are really friends you will be able to stay friends regardless of where you are based. You should 100% prioritize optionality for your career which this offer gives you right now. If you decide to recruit FT for banking I would argue they will look more favorably on your MF experience given how much harder it is to get in the first place, especially if you get the return offer and turn it down which would give you a compelling story for why you want banking > PE

"The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly" - Robert A. Wilson | "If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

I agree with the comments above that say you need to stick with the MF internship offer. This is a critical moment in your career and to compromise it in order to spend the summer closer to friends is very shortsighted. It is just 10-12 weeks. You’re going to want to spend the first few weeks, if not the entire internship, putting in hours to ensure that you’re learning as much as possible and contributing. Think of this like cramming before an exam. While I absolutely agree with the idea that you need to enjoy your life and be happy, this is a very limited sacrifice with tremendous upside.

CompBanker’s Career Guidance Services: https://www.rossettiadvisors.com/
 

Look, you’re getting closer to graduation and life changes post college. Ya hanging with the boys on the weekends in NYC post college would be fun but if y’all are all at Moelis or Citi or whatever then reality is maybe you can grab lunch twice a week and maybe go out one night a week in the early days. And then someone will start dating someone who basically takes them out of the group, and you’ll be lucky if you’re not on projects that take over your life all while you’re trying to claw your way out of banking. Things will realistically fizzle out much more quickly than you’d hope.
 

You got a shot to skip banking and to decide if you’ve got what it takes to make PE a career - you’ve already won. Don’t sacrifice major career decisions because of what you think might happen. I guarantee that if you go to the MF and hate it after a year or two then you can find a way to make it to NYC or Miami or wherever you want to go. You’re not the only young person who doesn’t know anyone in your new city, you can make friends wherever you go. I could go on and on about how important diversity of experience is but you might find new friendships even more beneficial in this next season of life because it will expose you to something different and force you to get outside of your comfort zone.

 

Earum blanditiis qui repudiandae odio a vel animi et. Amet vitae ea iusto consequuntur. Ab qui est quis dolorum debitis. Delectus sint placeat commodi.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Private Equity

  • The Riverside Company 99.5%
  • Blackstone Group 99.0%
  • Warburg Pincus 98.4%
  • KKR (Kohlberg Kravis Roberts) 97.9%
  • Bain Capital 97.4%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Private Equity

  • The Riverside Company 99.5%
  • Blackstone Group 98.9%
  • KKR (Kohlberg Kravis Roberts) 98.4%
  • Ardian 97.9%
  • Bain Capital 97.4%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Private Equity

  • The Riverside Company 99.5%
  • Bain Capital 99.0%
  • Blackstone Group 98.4%
  • Warburg Pincus 97.9%
  • Starwood Capital Group 97.4%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Private Equity

  • Principal (9) $653
  • Director/MD (22) $569
  • Vice President (92) $362
  • 3rd+ Year Associate (91) $281
  • 2nd Year Associate (206) $266
  • 1st Year Associate (387) $229
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (29) $154
  • 2nd Year Analyst (83) $134
  • 1st Year Analyst (246) $122
  • Intern/Summer Associate (32) $82
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (314) $59
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
3
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
4
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
5
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
6
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
7
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
8
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
9
Linda Abraham's picture
Linda Abraham
98.8
10
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”