Lateraling at senior associate / VP level
Senior associate at UMM PE shop ($5B+ fund). Been here for 5 years and 3 years of IB before that. I like my team and experience has been solid, but turning 30 soon and having some doubts of my path here.
Ton of levels above me and each promotion will only get harder. I’d be lucky if I make Partner in early 40s, which is probably a 5% chance anyways.
Thinking now is the time to get out before the golden handcuffs get real. Ideally want to make the jump to a VP / Principal seat on “partner-track” — which I know means a move downmarket (ok and actually prefer this).
I’m up for VP next year, so thinking waiting for the title might make me more marketable externally. We have title deflation but feel like market should care more about YOE.
Lastly, am I dumb for wanting to leave my seat? Considered a strong performer and I don’t hate my life. I just don’t think becoming a Partner here is a probability for me (don’t think it is for 99% of the mid levels here). My other thought is should I just try to ride the wave as long as I can and can figure out alternatives if/once I get pushed out…the comp is nice, but time and age is biggest opportunity cost I’m battling.
Would love to hear thoughts from folks who have gone through this before.
Based on the most helpful WSO content, your situation is a common crossroads for mid-level professionals in private equity. Here are some key considerations and insights:
Lateral Moves at VP/Principal Level:
Golden Handcuffs vs. Opportunity Cost:
Downmarket Preference:
Risk of Staying Too Long:
Alternative Paths:
Recommendations:
Ultimately, you’re not "dumb" for wanting to leave your seat. It’s a strategic decision to align your career with your long-term goals and values. Many professionals in your position have successfully transitioned to roles that offer greater satisfaction and growth potential.
Sources: Would you leave in this situation?, Career Mistake - Left IB too Soon, Private Equity vs. Venture Capital in 2018
I'm a VP in LMM PE for what that's worth. My vote is you stay til you get promoted to VP (assume its January 2027) and then immediately start looking to lateral down market.
Just an aside, I don't think most LMM PE firms would give you a title jump to Principal even if you came from UMM as a VP1. It's been a competitive labor market in PE for last several years.
I think in the PE industry overall, there's a growing supply of mid-level talent vs. stagnant or maybe declining number of mid-level seats (again speaking overall). I don't think this dynamic changes in the next few years.
how are you in year 5 and still sr asc? B School?
but i agree with the above. get the VP title then start looking. assuming you have a decent resume, then MM and LMM funds would give you strong looks for VP titles. There is frankly a more liquid market for VP roles than there are for super sr assoc
of course, the odds at making partner and even MM or LMM fund that are somewhat established aren't much better unless you join a something on Fund II or maybe III. and the comp is going to be materially lower
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100% get the VP promote
Seems like consensus is to wait for the VP promote. Would this change if the path to the VP title was much longer? In a similar position but years earlier where I’ve recently made senior associate but will have to tough it out for 3 years to get VP (vs. I could try and lateral to a VP role downmarket now)
Your situation is totally different. The advice above is for someone late in a role (SA2 or SA3) who may risk giving up the years to start back at SA1.
Conversely, you have nothing to lose with a reset.
Another datapoint, somewhat contrary to others. At 3.5 years PE I left a ~100% certain VP promote at brand name MM+ to go to a firm with one of these longer senior associate timelines with title deflation. Viewed it as better firm / opportunity / team / strategy / skillset. So I willingly took on title risk and “delayed” external VP title. Although comp / carry was similar or better (and eventually becomes significantly better), which says everything about the elevated role despite the title deflation.
I was of the opinion that I would for sure lateral AFTER getting the VP promote. But something came up unexpected and ended up being the right move. So far it has worked out very well.
My only point - if you feel confident in your skillset / ability / experience. I would not pigeonhole or restrict yourself to thinking “I can’t do X until Y”. Yes it makes more sense to wait for traditional VP. But if you are already an experienced senior associate at a place with known title deflation, I would not underestimate your ability to get out there now and start havging conversations about stuff that might interest you, and more importantly being in a seat where you feel have longer term path with some upside
As someone who just got their MBA and now at a UMM as a VP, senior associates thinking of lateraling, really try to get that VP promote.
If my recruiting experience at MBA tells me anything its currently a buyer’s market given all the mid-levels looking for a job. I come from a MF background with 3 yrs of experience (two platform deals) and even then half the roles I were getting sent by HH and resume drops were Senior Associate roles. And no, this isn’t like BX with title deflation, this is actually senior associate roles with 12-18 months before VP promote.
All that is to say, its great if you believe your skillset / experience warrant a VP title, except firms know they have all the leverage in this market and will stall you as much as possible. And with how slow the overall market is (aka no new fund raise / exits) don’t expect there to be many new spots opening for you to join as a VP1 when there are tons of laid off VP3 that will willingly step down for a job
Thanks for your perspective.
Actively recruiting to lateral as current VP3 and would be willing to step down to VP1/2 for the right PE opportunity. Do you think I'm more attractive on paper than a newly minted VP1 or an MBA grad? Ignoring other factors (i.e. prestige of prior PE firm or amount of deal experience).
This is fair I don’t disagree (I wrote the post above about believing in skillset).
Yes I think need to be extremely careful at SA level. And skeptical, risk averse, and lean towards just gutting it out to VP given how bad things are.
I had unique situation which was pretty clear better firm / competitive seat / upmarket / leaner team / unusually attractive forward path.
I think my main point for others at SA / Junior VP level is have that 5% open mind flexibility in back of your mind.
Something might come up that is almost perfect except for Title or something else. And it might come up at the time when you’re not exactly expecting it (I.e I’m just gonna gut it out for [9 more months] to VP). Life is like that.
Agreed - best of luck to all of us and hope some of these senior boomers start to retire and make some space
just started my first day at a BB and was wondering the best lateral to PE?
thanks very much for the insight.
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